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Hugh's Perfectly Abnormal Mafia Game Where Everything Weird Happens Oh God (And We Promise It's Not Mountainous This Time)

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Wiadi said:
...okay it may just be me but I'm getting some real bad vibes off that post.

[x] Vote Draxy

Like, what the fuck is this. I know this is a weird game but "lol I dunno there were two vig shots and I could've been either of them because I submitted two different actions in two different places" is just...what???

(though again this is like, 75+% vibes rather than specifically thinking that above scenario isn't credible in principle, IDK I'm just winging it at this point)
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I mean like sure, whatever. As is it's easy to prove if that theory is true or not, if whoever took the second shot just decides to come forward and can actually confirm where their own shot landed.
 
P#468 Ori trying to pump the breaks on the YP vote. Could just be trying to look good post flip as it always happened but good to note
P#606 Ori has the Nani sus
P#625 Rosen likes Nani
P#639 Walker waffling on YP
P#650 Cyri sus Ori
P#659 Nani trying to shade me as nontown
P#768 Draxy voting Nani while being iffy on doing it if they could swap back to a town role. Kinda matches the stuff with Byz?
P#804 Cyri voting Nani to not give the cult leader claim a cycle.
P#845 Cyri trying to prod people to vote and not just have stagnation, which had the chance of pushing through Nani in practice
P#849 Ori waffling as she doesn't want no yeet but wants to see if cult works before ending on Nani at P#855
P#899 not sure why Cyri really reveals the Nani visited me claim here of partnered
P#965 has Ori claim she had off vibes on Nani for the past few days which matches her prior stuff

Didn't do the final day or first day since I'm stuck on my phone and so this is haphazard but I tentatively want to clear Comi and Cyri or at least think they look solid off Nani. If one of them is a busser its Comi but eh there.

Clear: Wiadi
Confirmed 3P: Byzantine
Hard townread: Cyri
Soft townread: Comi
POE: Rosen/Draxy/walker

Realistically I think Walker is one while Draxy and Rosen are a difference check based on how they've approached each other and my other reads.
 
Also swap off Dayvig Draxy, if you're town its making everyone nervous and probably gets you voted off if kept. And if mafia, its a risky play to keep it around considering that...
 
Draxy said:
Now I'm really pissed off, you're all but gloating about your inevitable victory and now we're nearing LYLO and can't even vote you out now without risking losing to maf.
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I'm actually in a bad position since people are lying and I have no tools to figure out who.

It's more or less up to chance if I win or not at this point, so I'm just trying not to worry about it.

Anyway, @Walker: what night and who? For a rolecop you've been surprisingly quiet.
 
But beyond that Walker reads as either entirely uninvested in the game, a reasonable precaution considering the overly-bastard nature, or is trying to not attract attention. Citing failed actions is possible, but it's also a reasonable excuse if he's scum and keeps getting himself caught on the noodle stand while trying to kill, since he has no useful information to share.

I'm townreading Comi, atm, but the slot is mostly blank so that's tentative and mostly based on Ori playing fairly townie when he was around.

I tend to agree with the poe, though as stated above I want an answer from cyric before anything else - I suspect I have one but we'll see what he has to say.

I would like a medium just to see what score and 99L have to say, they both should have gotten one more set of results.

Anyway,

[x] vote Draxy

For now I'll land here. I want some more info from Walker, and I'm somewhat townreading Rosen, as the lack of night action feels legit.
 
Not sure how much it will help, but I can provide a list of my attempted actions up until this point if others would like. Most of it is just action failures due to me trying to figure out what exactly I do but there might be something meaningful to somebody in there :V
 
Cyri is mostly a matter of "why" though I want to hear his reasoning for sure. Since first you get him fucking with Nani in a way I'm not sure is a bus due to him claiming his shot with it. Let's assume that he was bussing and distancing from Nani well for credit for a decent chunk of the game. Why does he blow up a lot of his cred with claiming the shot on Zaelix? Its a risky gambit at best if trying to get further townread off of it when its not needed and there are better ways to use that credit. Just him claiming the vig shot makes little sense to me with him as wolf when trying to reconcile his approach towards Nani.
 
Also probably won't be too active due to holiday gatherings and whatnot so that's probably the extent of what I'll be able to provide for now. If I have time before EoD I'll try to get some more coherent thoughts out there, since right now I'm still a bit lost -- not as much as before, but I'm definitely not on my A-game this go around.

But in other news I just finished building a sick keyboard I ordered a year and a half ago so I'm feeling pretty good
 
Pawn Lelouch said:
Cyri is mostly a matter of "why" though I want to hear his reasoning for sure. Since first you get him fucking with Nani in a way I'm not sure is a bus due to him claiming his shot with it. Let's assume that he was bussing and distancing from Nani well for credit for a decent chunk of the game. Why does he blow up a lot of his cred with claiming the shot on Zaelix? Its a risky gambit at best if trying to get further townread off of it when its not needed and there are better ways to use that credit. Just him claiming the vig shot makes little sense to me with him as wolf when trying to reconcile his approach towards Nani.
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I can find one world where it makes sense - Cyri, being scum, is privy to what the scum kill flavor actually looks like, and it isn't that. This is some extra power gained through a submission. And he just didn't think about the fact that town hasn't seen the scum kill yet to make the distinction until after he'd posted.
 
Byzantine said:
I can find one world where it makes sense - Cyri, being scum, is privy to what the scum kill flavor actually looks like, and it isn't that. This is some extra power gained through a submission. And he just didn't think about the fact that town hasn't seen the scum kill yet to make the distinction until after he'd posted.
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I'll fully admit that does feel fairly thin reasoning wise
 
Cyricubed said:
Because I am simply birds.

I have in sequence: Commuted Loudly, Watched Loudly, Announce the Omens of Death Loudly(Failed since no one was marked to die), and Killed(Loudly?)

I put myself on 3 self rules that have worked so far
1- Bird Flavor in some fashion
2- No repeats
3- Loud bird noises.
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Here is the Cyri order of claimed actions again.
 
Byzantine said:
Anyway, @Walker: what night and who? For a rolecop you've been surprisingly quiet.
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N1: Tried to rolecop myself to figure out the nature of how bastard roles work in this game. Discovered I'm a rolecop, but nothing further, which I already knew, so that's a great choice of action there.
N2: Rolecopped Scorbunny; turns out they're a fullcop, so basically my role but better. Ouch.
N3: Tried to rolecop Nanimani, intercepted by Byzantine's noodle stands. Noodles tasty, but not very productive.
N4: Tried to rolecop Byzantine, noodled again. I'm having a very tasty game, but not necessarily a useful one.
Byzantine said:
But beyond that Walker reads as either entirely uninvested in the game, a reasonable precaution considering the overly-bastard nature
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I do like my mountain games. Bastard games make it harder to predict people, because you have to read the GM also.
 
Draxy said:
The shot on 99 does look like it's more likely to be mine though, given the name and colour, though will ask WTF whoever shot Nani was doing if so, like that is such a wasted shot. But we now know that kill messages can be changed from the standard on request thanks to Cyri, so I'm not even sure we can trust that kill message anymore, given it now seems we have two possible variants on a dayvig power, and that is assuming it is a dayvig power that got Nic and Nani and not whatever else.
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Also, I think at this point that there is a very real possibility that mafia doesn't actually have access to a factionkill of any kind? The only directly mafia-induced kill we've seen, I believe, has been Nanimani targeting Scorbunny as they were voted, and it seems very possible that was role-specific rather than universal. Likewise, the only nightkill hasn't matched scum colors, and may very possibly have been a vigilante missing a shot.
 
Walker said:
Also, I think at this point that there is a very real possibility that mafia doesn't actually have access to a factionkill of any kind? The only directly mafia-induced kill we've seen, I believe, has been Nanimani targeting Scorbunny as they were voted, and it seems very possible that was role-specific rather than universal. Likewise, the only nightkill hasn't matched scum colors, and may very possibly have been a vigilante missing a shot.
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Scor directly stated scum have a NK, and scor's been accurate with everything so far.
 
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