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It's all in the cards
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[X][JER] No
[X][TRA] Yes
[X][TRA] Yes
Errr is a delaying decision for Jerusalem possible? Jointly administered by the Arab League *after* the war?
Or, hm, is a joint administration of Palestine by the UAR possible? @Fission Battery
Oh right, oops.They could vote for Egyptian members on the city council but then the rest of the seats would be given to other countries. You can see why that'd be a bit of an issue for people?
Islamists don't do subtlety or long term thinking at all, observe them assasinating Sadat for camp David when Sadat was their key ally who practically invited them back to power and freed most of them from prison, or observe the Morsi regime literally banning women in 2012 and outright airing plans to bomb Ethiopia on live televisionYou would think that they would try to be subtle to avoid offending some of the powerful non-Muslims in the room including the Prime Minister of Egypt but no. They show off their plans for a Muslim only Jerusalem to everybody to see.
When you have to recover a city from being at war, and all the damage of massive firestorms and chemical weapon releases into a major population center... The Council isn't going to be a bunch of super villains, the first priority is going to be the thousands of people dosed with chemical weapons and repairing the damage from the fire and bombings.The problem is that the reactionary members of the League would be a majority and they would vote in favour of demolishing non-islamic religious monuments and it doesn't take a lot of time to destroy buildings (specially if they don't care enough to be delicate about it).
I don't know about you... but I'm confident they're going to have their hands full.A gigantic fireball erupted from the building, consuming a bomber in its blaze and vaporizing everyone around it. Soldiers that didn't die instantly fled from the burning heat and toxic fumes that spread from the raging inferno. The mission finished, the squadron regrouped and continued their long trek back home.
The sun was in their eyes and behind them Jerusalem burned.
Considering the slant they take against monuments & historical sites not in complicance with their extremely narrow interpretation of Islamic scripture and jurispudence, and the likes of Salaam's plans of demolitions (as stated in this very update), I think it's a legitimate worry that they'd at the very least neglect the damaged sites which are against Islamist interest should they gain majority. Which they would by number of countries. At worst they'll use the cover of supervision to actively damage those sites while helping those not explicitly against Islamist & royalist interests - which would likely cause a pseudo-battle over Jerusalem between our (intended to be) humanitarian personnel & theirs as we scramble to stop them.The Council isn't going to be a bunch of super villains, the first priority is going to be the thousands of people dosed with chemical weapons and repairing the damage from the fire and bombings.
When you have to recover a city from being at war, and all the damage of massive firestorms and chemical weapon releases into a major population center... The Council isn't going to be a bunch of super villains, the first priority is going to be the thousands of people dosed with chemical weapons and repairing the damage from the fire and bombings.
I don't know about you... but I'm confident they're going to have their hands full.
When you have to recover a city from being at war, and all the damage of massive firestorms and chemical weapon releases into a major population center... The Council isn't going to be a bunch of super villains, the first priority is going to be the thousands of people dosed with chemical weapons and repairing the damage from the fire and bombings.
So... these people, only some of whom are expecting a war with Egypt in the near future, sitting on a council where Egypt and several of its allies sit... are going to forcibly expel every single Egyptian in the city, while surrounded by Egyptian armed forces because what? If you're going to present the Council as fundamentally nothing more than a vehicle for mustache twirling villains than of course it, like everything that isn't us is wrong and amoral.You mean all those Egyptian citizens they're going to expel from the city for "safety concerns?" Those people? Why would they take care of them? The first priority is shipping them out of the city. Jerusalem's been bulldozed, leveled, fortified, and ruined by Crusader occupation and bombing. Any historic site they didn't like was torn down, a lot of neighbourhoods were torn down and inhabitants expelled or killed, so the only civilians there were locals forced into slums to serve the massive garrison. People in slums around the area likely suffered from the toxic fumes.
So... these people, only some of whom are expecting a war with Egypt in the near future, sitting on a council where Egypt and several of its allies sit... are going to forcibly expel every single Egyptian in the city, while surrounded by Egyptian armed forces because what? If you're going to present the Council as fundamentally nothing more than a vehicle for mustache twirling villains than of course it, like everything that isn't us is wrong and amoral.
I'm just baffled how anyone would think forcible population expulsion as an enclave while surrounded by the people you're expelling, who are more militarily powerful than you, and to whom the council is nominally in part composed of works. There's literally no reason for the Egyptian council member to simply not say 'You're violating the sovereignty and rights of our citizens and the citizens of Jerusalem- Egypt can no longer recognize this council as legitimate'. Tell me how these are real nations with real motivations and logic behind them because that looks a lot like a pile of straw because historically speaking, internationally administrated regions like this tread lightly precisely so they don't have members throw tantrums and start talking about military intervention when their interests are outright attacked.
Cause frankly, if this vote is literally to shout down or not shout down a hamfisted attempt for joint 'Arab' rule so the reactionaries can pack it - its irrelevant and never needed to be put to a vote. I was assuming y'know... that this would include such arab nations like Morocco, and Maghreb who might frown on a policy of absolute religious purges given they likely have Christian minorities that aren't being exterminated and that would alone bring the council to 4 v 5 on the issue (and 3 of the against would be the stronger and far more industrialized powers whom the council truly depends on for legitimacy). Threatening or bribing someplace like Funj into abstaining should be relative peanuts by that point. And given it's Maghreb, the constitutional monarchy liable to go socialist in the next decade who proposed this, I assumed the option was more than a tacit encouragement of religious extermination and that balancing relations might matter more.
@Fission Battery When will the North-South line and the Aswan Low Dam megaprojects finish again? I believe the industrial projects and the Tatarstan aid sped up the megaprojects two turns. I think that the North-South line will be finished soon if the war mobilization did not affect the construction.
For a man that seems relatively politically savvy until recently, why is King Harroun so determined to die and risk everything achieved so far over the point of restoring the Yemeni monarchy? He has marriage ties to the exiled Yemeni royals but plenty of reigning kings have hosted and intermarried into exiled royal houses without ever actually pressing their relatives' claims in history. The Arab Republic of Yemen is a potential threat and a possible source of revolution against the monarchies of Arabia but the King's efforts to get rid of President Nagi is antagonizing the newly independent Egypt which is a much bigger threat than Yemen. All of previous attempts to get the Egyptian leadership to abandon Yemen failed and it should have been clear that Egypt was not going to change its mind on the matter. Recognizing the status quo in Yemen and arguing that conquering the monarchies would be too costly for it to be worthwhile for the Arab socialist bloc was the only viable way to start negotiating a partition plan offer that Egypt might seriously consider as an alternative to war with the monarchist bloc. So why he did not do that? Victory disease? A lot of faith in his Entente backers?
Well figuring out what to do with them does sound like an interesting thing to debate about, but I have concerns that it will delay the update or something.
Are all settlers fundamentalists? The Sicilian Resistance (their willingness to pact with Egypt) gave me hope that, at least, some of them were not.
Voting on this issue (the settlers and the POWs) would be interesting. The only question I have is on this fact:
Are all settlers fundamentalists? The Sicilian Resistance (their willingness to pact with Egypt) gave me hope that, at least, some of them were not.