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-Rosen said:
Was going to respond to the direction thing but it appears Nictis kind of already made the point I was going to touch on, so meh

Going to refrain from commenting on the stuff from Shalmoa/Nictis for the time being, as I would like to see where things develop from where they are now.
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-Rosen said:
I have other things I'm looking for so I'll pass for now
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Just referring to these posts where I stated an explicit interest in the interaction.
 
Kingster said:
@Zone Q11 this is the post from Hugh that convinced me, he explained his point of view and the comments against him that just convinced me basically, maybe the post wasn't too Towny as you guys say, but it clicked? Made sense to me?
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"The comments against him", you say. A majority of that post was a reply to Shalmoa. What did (past tense) and do (present tense) you think of Shalmoa, and regardless of what you think of them now, why are you not voting anyone yet?
-Rosen said:
I still think that Kingster's vote comes more from a newbie headspace that doesn't quite understand wagonomics yet. I don't think it does anything to advance scum wincon.
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MY reason to scumread Kingster has nothing to do with wagonomics. Unlike hugh, I am not asking why Kingster had voted so late (and Kingster's answer is something that nobody can prove anyway); I am asking why he had voted Shadell in particular.
 
Zone Q11 said:
MY reason to scumread Kingster has nothing to do with wagonomics. Unlike hugh, I am not asking why Kingster had voted so late (and Kingster's answer is something that nobody can prove anyway); I am asking why he had voted Shadell in particular.
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Makes sense, though I would still disagree with the idea for the same inexperience stuff. I think what's more important is seeing whether Kingster actually improves upon this behavior over time. If not then I'll be glad to go along with this, but at the moment I think it's too early to tell.
 
Nictis said:
Oh yeah, forgot to do this.

[x] Vote Hugh_Donnetono
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no you didn't😂
Nictis said:
[x] Vote Hugh_Donnetono
@hugh_donnetono Pinging, get a vote on the board.
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Nictis said:
Someone remind me of why @hugh_donnetono and @Shalmoa took the deal to stop voting each other and vote Shadell instead?
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I didn't so much take a deal as I swapped to the only viable alternate wagon when I had to to stay alive :V

Nictis said:
Overall, I'd say Nemo is a very clear to read Townie. The logic progresses well and her thoughts are easy enough to examine.
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Ooh, hear that @NemoMarx? Your thoughts are easy to examine! :D
 
Crikes I just realized day ends today I thought I had today and tomorrow to really start getting into it and now I have 5 hours left. Alrighty

Right off the top I'm still leaning sus towards Hugh and Shal, I think there isn't enough to convince me their coming from a town mindset yet and the arguments made today haven't hit in that direction yet.

Nictis said:
I can actually explain this one. This was the requirement for the legacy post:




I also made like two or three different reads posts Day 1.
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Also valid and apologies <3 Hope your feeling better.

Which brings me to the point that I'm town reading both Nictis and Nemo atm, Nemo's posts(while I Hate deconstructing post #'s) are pretty on point for me so far and Nictis reaching the same conclusions raised my reads of them promptly.

Secondly atm I feel like Kingster could be town floundering. To that extent don't focus soley on the suspicions on yourself but also make advances on your suspicions

[X] Vote Shalmoa

This falls in line with what has already been said regarding the voiced self-pres action. It certainly felt performative in nature and the function wasn't the best either imo.
 
@hugh_donnetono go over your suspicions from day 1 and then your current thoughts on said individuals for me.
@Kingster from your list of suspicions focus on two of them for me and give a quick blurb about each, highlighting what they've done so far stands out and anyone linked to them possibly.

Also cause I liked the idea when I read it from day 1-
Legacy: Hugh_Donneton
 
Cyricubed said:
@hugh_donnetono go over your suspicions from day 1 and then your current thoughts on said individuals for me.
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Alas, due to The Shalmoa Thing I don't really have much aside from them. Boohoo (now @Seven 's slot) was a little suspicious to me for a little bit due to an entirely too-blatant-seeming attempt to coast through the day without actually saying anything, but in retrospect she was clearly having legitimate issues so that's null now.

As for Shalmoa himself, my main reason for sussing him that first day was how he seemed to be going out of his way to shade me for no reason, as I explained in that big wall post near eod. Today I don't feel as strongly about that, as I think he's made a decent case for why he at least might have thought it was a good idea as town, and that tilt at Nictis really felt genuine - but a few things other people have said, mostly this:

-Rosen said:
Going back to that "other thing" I was looking for between you and Shalmoa, that came largely from the idea that Shalmoa appeared to very much be trying to just kinda pick someone to hyperfocus on a given day, trying to dominate as much of the day space as possible to prevent people from looking elsewhere. It wasn't as much of a problem with the conversation with you, but I think the act of it happening twice is far more telling than the severity of it. Pair that with what I still believe to be a worse self-pres vote and I honestly think Shalmoa is just the better vote here.

More concise summary, the stuff between Hugh/Shalmoa is weird and convoluted by the nature of the question Shalmoa posed and used to dominate the conversation, but the stuff between yourself/Shalmoa is far more telling since it's using another somewhat questionable means of dominating the conversation (using the Executioner read as a means to determine scum equity, which seems rather silly to me).
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...have me wondering again. So null to light scum read? Definitely lighter than eod1.

And speaking of which, I was toying with the idea of a Rosen/Shalmoa team day 1 but man that'd necessitate some ridiculously hard bussing to be true at this point 😂 😂 😂
 
Oh yeah, I haven't voted yet. Not sure who to vote for though right now.

Cyricubed said:
@Kingster from your list of suspicions focus on two of them for me and give a quick blurb about each, highlighting what they've done so far stands out and anyone linked to them possibly.
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Shalmoa and Hugh were on my Sus list from day 1, but right now they haven't raided any "flags" for me so to say. What Nictis mentioned about the deal they made is Sus in fact, but as Hugh said, it can be reasoned as to avoid being eliminated. The way Shalmoa has defended from Nictis comments kind of reduces in fact my Sus that he is Mafia to be honest. Hugh hasn't made any comment that raises my suspicion but neither has he done anything to lower it basically.

The other was that I'm suspicious would be ZoneQ11, who started suspecting me and pushing? I think is the phrase? On one hand, I get that from his comments I'm very sus right and I get it, but he could also be mafia and is seeing a chance with me and thats why he is been focusing and pushing as much as he is maybe? Not sure I think he is mafia but don't want to 100% be ton that, he could be town checking a sus player and I get that.
 
[X] No Vote

I think I will abstain this time to be honest. I can do it twice per game right? Then I will use this one.
 
Kingster said:
[X] No Vote

I think I will abstain this time to be honest. I can do it twice per game right? Then I will use this one.
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Not voting is a strategy but one that can be seen as absolving yourself of guilt or not caring who gets lynched. Either way it's not the best look at the game goes on.
 
Allow me to clarify this. If we don't vote people out, the Mafia do all the kills in the game unless we happen to have a vigilante. If Town chooses not to vote, it allows Mafia to have more influence over who gets voted out. Not taking a stance doesn't help Town.
 
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