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EVA-Saiyajin said:
Just to be clear, the Sudenorsi are entering the war for no gold in the new negotiations, right? And—
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Yes the Sudenorsi are getting a province out of the deal rather than money

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Chimeraguard said:
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@Lonkas How large is the Reman military overall? Or that of the other human nations not involved or going to be involved in the war for that matter?
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Remas's standing army is enormous compared to their contemporaries. Though the Eagle guard and the Ratcatchers do make up the majority of it. (The grand legions are also just conglomerations of the I - VI and the VII - XIV legions respectively) They can surge to a ridiculous degree on the defense thanks to a vast back line of Auxiliaries, mercenaries and reservists. A civil war could in theory spike up to about 200k of actual combat-capable troops dependant on how bad it's getting, and that isn't including the ongoing settling occurring on the green coast. The reason that Remas can actually support that number is because they (and especially sartosa) are the safest ports on the way to Barak Varr, as their navy + the dwarves do a good job of keeping the corsairs out of their waters. Meanwhile, the Arabians also struggle to guarantee that Arkhan hasn't chosen this year in particular to sack their city, and he's been getting more active recently.

(keep in mind that despite being less per capita wealthy, the Reik can still scale significantly higher on the defense)

I won't give hard numbers for the other nations but in order of power rankings and a general tier list, this is where I would place the human nations in terms of martial potential

S Tier: The Reik Empire
A Tier: The Reik (sans brigundia), Remas
B Tier: Lyonesse, Estalia (has potential but they are largely focussed on commercial endeavours), Brigundia (just and only thanks to being big-ish)
C Tier: Mousillon, Drake King,
D Tier: Al - Rahid (for now), Arguably the Sudenorsi
F Tier: Any other human city-states
 
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EVA-Saiyajin said:
Man, it says something that Settra hasn't kicked his ass out despite being able to see off Nagash.
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One of Arkhans great strengths as a character is being able to make himself useful to whoever is top dog at the moment. Settra, if he cared enough could probably see Arkan off if he dedicated a century to hunting thtough the deserts of Araby. But Arkhan is a skilled enough necromancer (probably thrid behind Nagash himself and Wsoran), a capable enough general and is active enough that Settra every now and then will have Arkhan do something for him which Settra would either find annoyingly difficult or too politically challenging(he still runs Nehekhara like an actual kingdom).

So he lets Arkan live while occassionally bonking the Necromancer when he gets too uppity.
 
[X] Accept the offer to support Remas Technologically.
[X] Yes, this is exactly what we wanted for them.
[X] Yes this is an acceptable deal
 
Interesting that the Remas (United Tilea) is lower in potential than the Reik confederation considering their respective geographies.
 
Sheer size probably. The Confederation of the Reik is huge, even accounting for how much of their land is hostile forest. And Remas is actually equal to the Confederation when you take out Brigundia, even though that still leaves the Reik much larger.

Plus the Confederation is also kinda-sorta getting a boost because I suggested for my first Army List omake reward that they get an "Army of the Reik" elite force after this war.
 
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Hmm, honestly in regards to Nagash dealing with K8P, just how bad is this war going, then say in comparison to The war of Crippled Peak?
 
Hmm, would like to see the exact numbers for "how many Reman Legionaries would be needed to really face down against a Dawi Throng and inflict significant casualties", but I'm starting to warm up to guaranteeing succession now.

rokafella said:
Hmm, honestly in regards to Nagash dealing with K8P, just how bad is this war going, then say in comparison to The war of Crippled Peak?
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Seems that the big phase of the war when Nagash first invaded was ~60-70 years ago, with there still being ongoing fighting right now.

Lonkas said:
4476 - 4493: Across the whole of the Karaz Ankor there has been a notable reduction in the number of skaven assaults over the last several years, to the point where rather than the endless series of battles and ambushes which normally marks the war for the deeps. It seems to become almost dull, with major battles occurring every few months rather than every few weeks. Though counterattacking does show the Skaven have still maintained and kept manned the defences. As only a couple of their fetid warrens fall to costly Dawi counterattack over the period of their withdrawal.

Eventually, after more than a dozen years, the tunnels return to being that maze of darkness and danger, just as teeming with rats as they have ever been. But the ironbreakers are thankful for the brief respite nonetheless. Even if they do grumble about the lack of experience the beardlings have had.
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That phase was so big it drew down Skaven contingents across the entire Under-Empire, though not to levels such that they couldn't defend from Dwarf counterattacks.

Since then seems the Skaven have still been fighting to try and retake it, but aren't making a serious united Under-Empire wide push.
 
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Hmm, in that case, it seems to suggest that just by taking Karak Eight peaks, threw Skavenblight, one of its (Stolen) Crown jewels, and having it taken from them by Nagash. Added in with the chaos of Clan Mor's being probably destroyed, and honestly, it makes sense why Skaven attacks would dip, to be honest. Which makes sense in the beginning, since that means that Karak eight peaks got taken, but all that we got since from that point, is just old Nagash having been moppy lately and having an epiphany in regards to the waystones.
 
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rokafella said:
Hmm, in that case, it seems to suggest that just by taking Karak Eight peaks, threw Skavenblight, one of its (Stolen) Crown jewels, and having it taken from them by Nagash. Added in with the chaos of Clan Morder being probably destroyed, and honestly, it makes sense why Skaven attacks would dip, to be honest.
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Why do you think Moulder might have been destroyed?
 
I think rokafella means "Mors", since they were the Clan that held Eight Peaks. And were basically based out of Eight Peaks, so if it's fallen then yeah, they're probably screwed.
 
...Come to think of it, I think we're at about the time when Clan Pestilens is returning to the rest of Skavendom. If there's a vacancy in the Council of Thirteen and the Skaven are scared enough of Nagash, the whole Skaven Civil War might be averted with them saying "You can have Clan Mors' old seat if you retake their former territory from Nagash."

Which actually might help explain how there's still a lot of major fighting going on without drawing on the rest of the Under-Empire's forces now.
 
Chimeraguard said:
Hmm, would like to see the exact numbers for "how many Reman Legionaries would be needed to really face down against a Dawi Throng and inflict significant casualties", but I'm starting to warm up to guaranteeing succession now.
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There isn't a set size for a "Dawi Throng" you'll need to be more specific if you want an exact answer but going with the maximum deployable during a normal turn rather than a war turn we get.

ArmiesQuantityQualityEquipmentMagical WeaponsMagicTechnologyLeaderBonus
Dwarf0 (50k)443132/317/18
Traitor Legions3 (100k)3300 (1?)0 (1)312/13/14

Edge Dwarfs by 3 to 6 points. The total roll range is 0 to 9. Casualty range 1% to 10%.

Edit: I'd note that mammoths kick in turn like eleven or twelve IIRC so the quantity bonus would dip to +2 after that.
 
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Honestly, having that big of a place being taken has got me thinking, well that and ideas I had in regards to another quest I was rereading again. What would the situation be if Say, an Everchosen comes down, and along the way, because of Chaos Diplomacy being Die or Serve, would there be a slugging match between Clan Moulder and the Everchosen be a real possibility? Because, besides literal plot power armor, we are going to have the (formerly) seconded/third most heavily populated Skaven settlement in the entire Skaven under-empire, at our rear and our kin to the south. And there is honestly not really much of a chance of us ever taking it down. Well I mean we could, but I wager nobody wants to see the entire Angkor die by one under-city.
 
Sir LagsAlot said:
There isn't a set size for a "Dawi Throng" you'll need to be more specific if you want an exact answer but going with the maximum deployable during a normal turn rather than a war turn we get.

ArmiesQuantityQualityEquipmentMagical WeaponsMagicTechnologyLeaderBonus
Dwarf0 (50k)443132/317/18
Traitor Legions3 (100k)3300 (1?)0 (1)312/13/14

Edge Dwarfs by 3 to 6 points. The total roll range is 0 to 9. Casualty range 1% to 10%.

Edit: I'd note that mammoths kick in turn like eleven or twelve IIRC so the quantity bonus would dip to +2 after that.
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And that's assuming we don't improve our artillery tech further with seized samples in this war, or after. Or that we don't have Dromons to park off the coast, which all of the Reman Empire has.

Speaking of which @Lonkas , if we hadn't had starting a rebellion as a goal for the Ulgash raid would it have positively affected the DCs for loot with less split attention?
 
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Yeah, if we match up by the timeline Clan Pestilence should be in the Southlands making their new strongholds before trying to get to old SkavenBlight, though by this point, they would have already have met with the Council of Thirteen, which is why when the civil war started, a lot of nearby Skaven clans, in close proximity to Pestilence, switched sides just because of how close they were to say, clan. Though, them mostly being the troops being sent in for taking on Nagash does make sense from a Skaven view point, I would wager that at this point, if they q are still being sent in as most of the cannon fodder, then they would still cause a civil war, only besides what they already did, they'll just use NAgash as an extra excuse. Blaming the "callousness and Cruelty" of so many Skaven clansmen and slaves as being on them, as they would absolutely try and make Pestilence BLEED trying to take on NAGASH of all people, in his new version of Crippled peak.
 
rokafella said:
Honestly, having that big of a place being taken has got me thinking, well that and ideas I had in regards to another quest I was rereading again. What would the situation be if Say, an Everchosen comes down, and along the way, because of Chaos Diplomacy being Die or Serve, would there be a slugging match between Clan Moulder and the Everchosen be a real possibility? Because, besides literal plot power armor, we are going to have the (formerly) seconded/third most heavily populated Skaven settlement in the entire Skaven under-empire, at our rear and our kin to the south. And there is honestly not really much of a chance of us ever taking it down. Well I mean we could, but I wager nobody wants to see the entire Angkor die by one under-city.
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Certainly possible. The Skaven typically could always on average use a conflict to expunge their overblown populations gnawing at insufficient resources. And all the flesh left behind on both sides would be usable in some way.
 
Lonkas said:
Hmm? The split attention was from the fleet trying to raid 2 provinces at the same time. Ulgash was irrelevent
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Yes but I was thinking maybe during the deep raid of Ulgash we might have altered things if we weren't trying to cause a rebellion, in this case increase our loot chances. I can see how my wording may have been confusing and apologize.
 
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