Brave New Frontier

No? There honestly hasn't been enough discussion about this. Like some of it is (it seems like some people want Anti-Pollution, but then they disagree on what kind, some people want power technology, but not what kind, some want to make new ones, other want to buy existing ones) I want to consolidate and get control and influence over the EU/SA to make our life easier (But no one's gave me their thoughts on that). But there hasn't been any consensus or much discussion about it, just people throwing out ideas.
 
Okay, so can we say that we've basically all agreed that three of the currently four projects we're aiming for this turn will be 'Deal with Air Pollution', 'Break SA control of global food supply' and it seems 'Get into the Power Sector'?

Which means we just need to work out what the fourth project will be, and then determine which are the two lesser projects we accept might fail.
Our proposals for how we 'Deal with Air Pollution' are very different.


Yours was to directly develop air quality management technologies.
Nice and simple.


Mine was to merge it with 'Get into the Power Sector'.
Transition to Hydrogen Fuel Cells, and produce Hydrogen outside of Asia.
In short, move the air pollution elsewhere.

While that won't fix air pollution, only alleviate it for a time by moving it elsewhere... that's good.
We can earn further profit, when the suffocating smog problem rears it's head again.
At that point, either develop air management technologies, or transition to yet another "greener" technology.
(that was Methane Pyrolysis btw, the next highly profitable "greener" technology)
 
Personally I'm on board with making plans to develop infrastructure for space stuff while focusing mainly on the planetside situation.

[X] Plan: Firebird
 
[X] Plan: Hydrogen
-[X] 100 PF - Increase control of power generation and distribution companies. Push global industries to adopt Hydrogen Fuel Cells, prioritising Asia.
-[X] 75 PF - Fund Methane Pyrolysis R&D in Europe; produces "Turquoise" Hydrogen.
-[X] 100 PF - Construct Hydrogen Plants; not in Asia or Africa, "Grey/Blue", "Turquoise" if R&D successful.
-[X] 75 PF - Develop Alternative Food Sources such as in-vitro meat, insect farming, hydro and aeroponics.

If we want to develop space travel, and that's a sticking point, well... you need power in space.

Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, so it's very likely producable on most planetoids.
 
We don't actually need four projects, we can put more effort to any one.

Make sure not to poke anything that might make us need to hire pmcs hurriedly.
I don't think we'll actually be able to cure the world's problems... and that's not what we're after. We're here to fix our problems, and maybe make some to feed our needs. Don't forget. We don't need pmcs this early when we have immediate concerns, otherwise I'd go for hotspot inflation.

Also... we could make the pollution so bad that there's a need to go into space... find other resources and maybe a new planet. That'd get us government funding if we're in the right place for it. Having a plan ready for them would help.

One way to get into space/have control of it could be to control key things needed for space stuff. Like the Hydrogen cell mentioned.

I'mma see what the crowd around this time has to say, then look through everything and vote/discuss/suggest later.
 
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Our proposals for how we 'Deal with Air Pollution' are very different.


Yours was to directly develop air quality management technologies.
Nice and simple.


Mine was to merge it with 'Get into the Power Sector'.
Transition to Hydrogen Fuel Cells, and produce Hydrogen outside of Asia.
In short, move the air pollution elsewhere.

While that won't fix air pollution, only alleviate it for a time by moving it elsewhere... that's good.
We can earn further profit, when the suffocating smog problem rears it's head again.
At that point, either develop air management technologies, or transition to yet another "greener" technology.
(that was Methane Pyrolysis btw, the next highly profitable "greener" technology)
If we want to develop space travel, and that's a sticking point, well... you need power in space.

Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, so it's very likely producable on most planetoids.
Considering I include mention of looking into 'novel power solutions' in my 'secure power infrastructure' option, even if it's not the priority, I wouldn't be surprised if we see some hydrogen technology development. It's nowhere near the focus you put on it, especially as it's a secondary aim behind getting control but it is there.

The fact I'm also looking at developing orbital capabilities and improving air quality management should mean that there's some synergy between them. So something that can provide power in space without endangering the crew or inhabitants should also be very useful on the planet for reducing air pollution produced by powerplants. The food production developments could also synergize due to collecting carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and using that to 'feed' the plants, algae or something else.

Because frankly, oil and natural gas are likely running low if the coal's already been mostly exhausted as we're told is the case. Which means we shouldn't be investigating how to produce hydrogen for fuel cells by decomposing methane or another hydrocarbon, but rather how to sustainably and economically producing more hydrocarbons.

And if instead you want to produce hydrogen or hydrocarbons by using water, all I can say is that's not likely to be cheaper and might be even more dangerous to the region's stability. After all you either further deplete the region's fresh water supplies which are probably going to be our next crisis, or you need to perform desalination to purify saltwater which is very expensive power-wise. Which could lead to more air pollution happening as well.

Developing a green or carbon neutral hydrogen based power supply will absolutely be useful in the future, but by the time we go spacefaring we should have seen development of fusion power, thus reducing the need for hydrogen or hydrocarbon burning powerplants.


Just so people are aware, these are what I see as our priorities:
Air Quality Management - This is immediate and also useful into the future because it means we develop ways of keeping the air how we want it
Orbital Development - So as to secure access to all the resources out in the solar system and eventually beyond
Power Supply - Because everything is going to need power, and we want to ensure that we've got enough being supplied for even future demands
Food Supply - Seeing as we would have a lot of issues if all our workers were starving to death, and having some independence there means it's harder for others to play games with us
Water Supply - The second critical resource needed to keep our workers alive and thus working, it's also heavily used for industry so we want to ensure that we're not going to be cut off
Resource Supply - Because if we run out of resources, it doesn't matter if our workers are happy, they still can't make anything for us to produce a profit from
Military and Security - As we absolutely need to ensure that no one can just take our stuff from us, or destroy it without paying a steep price

'Plan FIrebird' aims for grabbing the first four this turn. Next turn I'm currently thinking of continuing orbital development, using our power sector to help secure the needed water supply, making sure our current military forces don't fall behind and then I think the fourth would be looking into renewable chemical feedstocks. Such as hydrogen and hydrocarbons from algae. Because that would boost our Power Sector and Air Quality whilst also being boosted by our research into alternate food production due to similarities for some of the processes.

I'd honestly probably be looking at water supply this turn rather than food, except it looks like South America produces most of the world's supply and they're anti-corporate whilst also sounding brittle to disruption. Which means we need to ensure they can't play games with us there whilst also ensuring we're protected if someone does disrupt the region and thus make it much harder for large scale industrial food production to happen there.


Just a question @Dapperlad1 but are we the only corporate faction in play right now? I think we can be certain that there's a European and a South American faction, it sounds like there's a North American Rebel and a mostly suppressed Asian Rebel faction that might only be a minor faction and then there's the whole mess that is Africa. No real non-corporate faction there, but plentiful random event rolls that could mess with everyone.

However I suspect that there's probably one or two other Corporate Factions in play which could mess with what we're leaving alone because it's 'stable' and dangerous to touch right now and just curious if we've got any hints of that being the case so far?
 
However I suspect that there's probably one or two other Corporate Factions in play which could mess with what we're leaving alone because it's 'stable' and dangerous to touch right now and just curious if we've got any hints of that being the case so far?
Nothing on the scale of the Conglomerate should exist, at least as far as you are aware. Your information on corporations is fairly complete, but there are tens of thousands of the bastards.

However, lack of confirmation does not mean lack of existence, perhaps investing into mass surveillance, if paranoia requires.

Edit: The Yakuza, however, are very much in play.
 
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Nothing on the scale of the Conglomerate should exist, at least as far as you are aware. Your information on corporations is fairly complete, but there are tens of thousands of the bastards.

However, lack of confirmation does not mean lack of existence, perhaps investing into mass surveillance, if paranoia requires.
So basically there almost certainly is another Conglomerate or will be soon. However until we manage to cripple the remaining governments, or conduct extensive surveillance and espionage, we're not going to know if there is and who it is.

I'm going to assume that there will be a bunch of 'Corporate' Random Event Rolls to hide the truth of their existence or non-existence then? And to 'stir up' the world... Or do you already have a 'plot' for how things happen and will be adapting it to account for what we choose?
 
So basically there almost certainly is another Conglomerate or will be soon. However until we manage to cripple the remaining governments, or conduct extensive surveillance and espionage, we're not going to know if there is and who it is.

I'm going to assume that there will be a bunch of 'Corporate' Random Event Rolls to hide the truth of their existence or non-existence then? And to 'stir up' the world... Or do you already have a 'plot' for how things happen and will be adapting it to account for what we choose?
The world is simulationist, random rolls are used when the outcome is in doubt, otherwise things take their logical course. I won't confirm nor deny anything, but be careful, finding enemies in every shadow isn't useful. Neither is not finding the enemy, however.
 
The world is simulationist, random rolls are used when the outcome is in doubt, otherwise things take their logical course. I won't confirm nor deny anything, but be careful, finding enemies in every shadow isn't useful. Neither is not finding the enemy, however.
Ah, so basically the 'adjusting pre-existing plot' path, with a few modifications. And I'm not finding enemies in every shadow. I just fully expect there to be similar scale corporate rivals either already existing, going to come into existence over time or springing up once our existence is revealed.

Because corporations are even more aggressive against each other as they are governments. Industrial espionage wouldn't be a term if they weren't... And forming a Megacorporation like we have is just too effective for it to not happen. We absolutely are a megacorporation even if we've yet to reveal that fact due to the remaining Governments making that a less profitable path. We can eventually crush the competition and consume them, but that'll just increase the internal conflict. But that won't normally be an issue for us as anyone below us will get jumped on if their sub-ordinates take things to the level it endangers the subsidiary/sub-division's profitability.
 
We will see how the world unfolds. However, the vote will last a while longer, if I had a put a number to it, 12 more hours, give or take a few.
By then, whatever decision is reached shall be put to writing.
 
Question Time:

1. What is the status of Battery Technology? Are they lighter and more efficient than current tech?

2. What is the status of GMO and Genetic Engineering? Any bans or restrictions?

3. What is the status of caseless ammunition? Railguns? Laser Weaponry?
 
Question Time:

1. What is the status of Battery Technology? Are they lighter and more efficient than current tech?

2. What is the status of GMO and Genetic Engineering? Any bans or restrictions?

3. What is the status of caseless ammunition? Railguns? Laser Weaponry?
Battery technology hasn't changed much. Profit from squeezing shrinking reserves of rare earths superseded technical development.

The European Union has some bans, but their authority extends as far as Moscow. Not much further.

Military development has stagnated due to lack of wars. The EU has some advanced things, but they are in house. Your equipment is cutting edge 21sr century. But still recognizable as our "modern" equipment
 
[X] Plan: Hydrogen
-[X] 100 PF - Increase control of power generation and distribution companies. Push global industries to adopt Hydrogen Fuel Cells, prioritising Asia.
-[X] 75 PF - Fund Methane Pyrolysis R&D in Europe; produces "Turquoise" Hydrogen.
-[X] 100 PF - Construct Hydrogen Plants; not in Asia or Africa, "Grey/Blue", "Turquoise" if R&D successful.
-[X] 75 PF - Develop Alternative Food Sources such as in-vitro meat, insect farming, hydro and aeroponics.

Power gen is important, and an increase in power generation can lead to more power being able to be diverted to other needs, such as air purification down the line
 
Beyond this first turn I also suggest starting to fund technological development. From an in-universe perspective it'd be easily justifiable as getting better stuff to sell at higher prices, and just having access to better tech in general which would make intel easier to collect and stuff in general likely easier to manage.
From a meta perspective this is a sci-fi quest, so falling behind on the tech curve, even for the sake of profit, is a horrible, horrible idea, IMO.
That said, before that focusing on the sociopolitical climate of Earth before the tech stuff is probably wiser.
 
Turn 1 Results/Turn 2
2028
8:34 PM
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After hours of discussion, there seems to be a consensus, billions are transferred over to accounts as millions of minds are put to work. The room darkens once again as screens fold into the table, executives standing up quietly and seeing their way out.

The world shudders into motion with their decisions.
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Develop Orbital Launch And Construction Capabilities-100 Base-40 (EU Interference)
Roll=53 (Success)


Billions of credits pour into the construction of launch pads, construction facilities and assemblage yards. All to manage an even greater feat, the launch of assembly equipment into orbit.

As thousands of rockets go up, carrying their cargoes into orbit where private astronauts attempt assembly. With some initial errors causing damages, it otherwise goes well. And then EU regulations on astronaut training, satellite launches and space safety requirements, reinforced by harsh penalties for those that don't follow them are enforced.
However, capable management, hush money for the few accidents there are and general competence leads to most efforts skirting just past the regulations, allowing the goal of substantial orbital infrastructure to be achieved by the end of the half-decade.

The orbit of Earth is growing heavy with humanities achievements.

Orbital Assemblage Complete
Profit Factor for Orbital Industry increased by 25. Further orbital actions are available.

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Develop Air Quality Management Technologies-100+30 (EU Support)
Roll=23 (Critical Success)


Initial research seemed sluggish, no real way to develop a cheap solution was immediately apparent until government grants started rolling in. Access to high-tech laboratories, resources for nothing and even military gas mask and rebreather designs sky-rocketed research years.
With the support of European Union resources, the rebreather produced is incredibly effective at cleansing airflow into a subject, very slim and minimalistic to suit civilian needs, and finally, costs only a hundred credits! Affordable and usable by even the poorest customers. With a 24 hour time per stick-on filter, 48 hours for the deluxe model, anyone can easily afford to breathe fresh, filtered company air.

On the less than perfect side, the European Union has these designs as well and is currently iterating on them for their own use, competition may form.


Workers are unaffected by current air quality.
Profit Factor for Consumer Industry increased by 50.

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Develop Alternative Food Sources-75+60 (EU Support)-0 (South American Influence Strangled by EU)
Roll=90 (Success)


Development funds are granted to agricultural corporations as alternate food sources are researched. Some South American politicians attempt to speak out against it, but find strange happening occurring, sensitive information released, sudden retirements and even a surprising heart attack!

With the influence halted, government grants once again come in, supporting efforts and providing information that corporate assets would have difficulty collecting.

Eventually, by the end of the half-decade, multiple efforts are commencing, but the primary one developed is aquaponic supported hydroponics. Spreading throughout the world as a bolstering influence to local food supplies.

Though current production isn't replacing all of South America's supplies, it has struck a mighty blow against their economic health and is causing upheavals as entire local economies falter, their export made worth far less. The chaos leads to greater PMC profits.

World food supply somewhat secured. South American economy damaged.
Consumer Product Sales profit factor increased by 10. Military Product Sales increased by 5.

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Increase control of power generation and distribution companies-75-15 (EU Interference)-10 (Yakuza Interference)
Roll=85 (Failure)


Billions of credits are funnelled into stocks, ownerships and security around thousands of powerplants across the world, an attempt at corralling and controlling them. Initially, it seems to be going well, until resistance is encountered as Asian communities boycott power stations, under the probable influence by local leaders, and then the hammer blow comes in the form of harsh anti-trust motions by the European Union, supported by South American governments looking for a scapegoat to distract their peoples.

At the end of it all, no progress is made on this front, though thankfully, severe failure is avoided and present gains are kept.

No Changes.
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North America
The introduction of local food supplies does reduce the burden on public services, however, this does not reduce the revolutionary tendency amongst the American public, as is seen by the annihilation of another corporate tower and CEO with a nuclear weapon.

Security forces are beginning to struggle to keep order in the streets as lawlessness becomes ever more present all across the continent.

Additionally, a fashion movement becomes popular, involving the FilterMasks developed by a subsidiary, frantic colours, LED surfaces and more are becoming the norm.
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Europe
With the recent introduction of local foodstuffs, the situation has improved as world anxiety is felt less keenly by many Europeans. The governments have begun exercising their power to increase economic conditions in poorer member states.

In scientific news, the Union has invested significant research into Thorium reactors, attempting to replace ageing uranium-based plants with something more advanced and productive.
The project sees great success and the first plants are being constructed with government grants in Germany, France and Italy. Corporate interests are attempting to acquire scientific data, but it has been declared of Vital Union Interest.

In military news, the European Union has recently reorganized the ideals of NATO, forming a military union as well as an economic one, central command structures and a capable command staff being the hopes of this project.
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Asia
With the recent filters, Asian stability has increased massively as healthcare facilities are less strained. Indeed, people are developing a significant amount of goodwill towards the companies that sell filter products.

Socially, it seems communities are being knit together tightly by the harshness of their environs, and possible outside influence.

Thefts and robberies of corporate facilities are increasing, though insurance covers the costs, several cutting edge research notes have been taken, corporate, criminal or national espionage?
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Africa
Wars continue to be fought with no real change as the continent continues its broiling chaos, national efforts in the region crushed by warlords or PMC's looking to keep money coming.

No changes are apparent.
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Orbit
Orbital construction has been extremely successful, private interests have begun leasing out the facilities to experiment with orbitally assembled vessels and even zero-G metallurgy.

The tight regulations counteract the possible profit from the entrepreneurs however, most of them having to hire European workers due to higher general education.
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South America
With the recent destabilization of the continent, governments are viciously attempting to put forth a strong face whilst economies are barely kept alive.

Generally, control is still in government hands, but if the situation continues as it is, there will be upheavals on a continental scale.
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Current Profit Factor-440
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Congratulations on your successes and better luck next time on your failures. The world is moving around you at a rapid pace as nations adapt to the world as it is.

This is both Turn 1 results and Turn 2 beginning, so feel free to start discussing based on the current results, and of course, ask questions. Perhaps wait a moment before making any plans.
 
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Okay, I think we'll want to go for 2 100PF and 3 80PF actions.

One of the 100s should be something to do with orbit, we've got our foothold, now to expand it. Meanwhile one of the 80s has to modernise and expand military and security forces.

I think the other 100 should be aimed at the power sector and one of the 80s at securing clean water supplies, which leaves one 80 remaining. Open for options.

Though probably not touching food for a while. We got what we needed, secured supplies for critical regions if SA collapses and any further is likely to either collapse or provoke the SA governments against us.

Both of which are likely to see drops in profit factor because they're one of the three regions stable enough for large profits, and the EU likely sees too much regulation for much profit to come out.

Edit: By the way Dapper, what's South America's current situation? Looks like they're missing from the end of the update.
 
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