Star Wars: A Padawans Tale: Episode II: A New Galaxy (A CK2/Adventure Quest)

*Insert Pictures of Revan, The Hero of Tython, The many MANY Jedi Lords and even a few Current Jedi*

Are WE A JOKE TO YOU!
Yep. There are great generals among the jedi, just...
Only a portion of the jedi population and in the origonal timeline every one was thrown into the deep end. Though at least they were willing to learn and become decent generals through experience.
 
Are WE A JOKE TO YOU!
I mean I don't wanna say yes...

and besides, I WAS AT LEAST ONE OF YOU!

but yeah the issue is that jedi are blinded by suffering and death, it takes their best and brightest to continue fighting even through all that. hence why papa palps made the clones to fight the droids, he wanted the jedi blinded by the deaths of millions of child soldiers so they wouldn't feel what he was doing through the force until it was too late
 
Yep. There are great generals among the jedi, just...
Only a portion of the jedi population and in the origonal timeline every one was thrown into the deep end. Though at least they were willing to learn and become decent generals through experience.
He'll most of the Jedi that were frontline commanders were either experienced, older and had led wars and grand battles before…

Renegades who already… do shady shit

Or are teenagers who are following their masters
Did the Republic even have an officer corps to put in charge instead of the Jedi?
The judicial were drawn upon for officers.
The Judicials. But other than that. Don't think so...
There were volunteers that became officers.
They had some, but most of them were just as if not more inexperienced and unprepared for leading a large scale Conflict as the Jedi were. Exceptions like Yularen or Tarkin notwithstanding.
The non clone officers corps are mostly political appointments and not via experience.
 
[x] The Force: The force feels… Clearer… Clearer than it has been...since… Ever in my life… Like there is no more darkness clouding us.
 
Let me just say that a head count was needed and Papa Palps exit from coruscant… lead to a Schism of Jedi who still idiotically believed that the Jedi were in the wrong and exiled them selves and became dark Jedi.

...Uh oh.

Yeah, that's how you get a nascent Sith/proto-Sith movement. I can literally name seven separate occasions where the Order schisming led to bad times.

1) The Force Wars
2) Xendor and the Legions of Lettow
3) Order of the Terrible Glare (Pius Dea Crusades)
4) The One Hundred Year Darkness (Ajunta and his pals)
5) Exar Kun and the Sith Brotherhood
6) Revan and Malak and the Jedi Crusaders
7) Darth Ruin (sparked off the New Sith Wars)
 
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[X]The Jedi: I felt so much in the Force… but… did the Order Succeed… How many Jedi died?

i fell you should just do a non-quest chapter to the setup, unless you want us to roll on each aspect. All the things we can choose are necessary basic information that we would or should get anyway
 
[X]The Jedi: I felt so much in the Force… but… did the Order Succeed… How many Jedi died?

i fell you should just do a non-quest chapter to the setup, unless you want us to roll on each aspect. All the things we can choose are necessary basic information that we would or should get anyway
Oh no, you will get all the information…

Just this first one will have the most bearing on what is to come.
 
[x] The Force: The force feels… Clearer… Clearer than it has been...since… Ever in my life… Like there is no more darkness clouding us.
 
[X]The Force: The force feels… Clearer… Clearer than it has been...since… Ever in my life… Like there is no more darkness clouding us.
[X]Ahsoka: Why are you on crutches? Did someone beat you up? What happened to you?
either of these

Lemme guess, Krell is one of them?


What about Tarkin? I actually read a pretty excellent story where he found out that Palpatine was a Sith-Lord who orchestrated both the War and the Fall of the Republic just as the Clone Wars came to an end and actually became one of the Founders and Leaders of the Rebellion. In secret, of course, while officially still being a Grandmoff.
Did he stay loyal to the Republic here too or did he join Palpatine?
that, that sounds like a horrible idea. Like, Saw Guerra's partisan's indiscriminate terrorist attacks killing civilians level kind of bad. Tarkin 'fear for the win' building a rebellion against a state basing it's entire legitimicy on force & state terrorism, that does not a rebbellion make. mmm, got a link?
 
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that, that sounds like a horrible idea. Like, Saw Guerra's partisan's indiscriminate terrorist attacks killing civilians level kind of bad. Tarkin 'fear for the win' building a rebellion against a state basing it's entire legitimicy on force & state terrorism, that does not a rebbellion make. mmm, got a link?
One thing I will say is that Tarkin, as a military man, in this time in his career... is in a transitional phase.

Brutality works against a populous that is prone to fear, but right now, he is far more willing to be constrained like a Scalpal then be an iron fist.
 
Brutality works against a populous that is prone to fear, but right now, he is far more willing to be constrained like a Scalpal then be an iron fist.
might be i'm biased because of where I grew up with, but a brutal scalpal is still bad. An iron first is worse, sure, but that's like saying that 1 murder is beter then 10 murders. sure, it better as in less worse, but 1 murder is still bad. anyway, I could go on a long political rant, but i'll do that below. Point is, only true justice can give a government true long-lasting legitimacy, and only true legitimacy can get you an working goverment accepted by the people, a working economy, and a functional society. So, I suppose current tarkin is less bad then what Tarkin could be?

either way, not sure if this is a kind of political theory discussion you are looking to have in this quest?

Brutality never works. It might get a lack of active protest at a certain moment & time, but brutality will never gain loyalty, or willing obedience, or actual legitimaty. It might deter active external attack, but only for a time and only so long as you remain strong enough to deter all parties from banding together to return it onto you.
 
might be i'm biased because of where I grew up with, but a brutal scalpal is still bad. An iron first is worse, sure, but that's like saying that 1 murder is beter then 10 murders. sure, it better as in less worse, but 1 murder is still bad. anyway, I could go on a long political rant, but i'll do that below. Point is, only true justice can give a government true long-lasting legitimacy, and only true legitimacy can get you an working goverment accepted by the people, a working economy, and a functional society. So, I suppose current tarkin is less bad then what Tarkin could be?

either way, not sure if this is a kind of political theory discussion you are looking to have in this quest?

Brutality never works. It might get a lack of active protest at a certain moment & time, but brutality will never gain loyalty, or willing obedience, or actual legitimaty. It might deter active external attack, but only for a time and only so long as you remain strong enough to deter all parties from banding together to return it onto you.
What I mean is, with Jedi influence he can be less... extreme.
 
that, that sounds like a horrible idea. Like, Saw Guerra's partisan's indiscriminate terrorist attacks killing civilians level kind of bad. Tarkin 'fear for the win' building a rebellion against a state basing it's entire legitimicy on force & state terrorism, that does not a rebbellion make. mmm, got a link?
It's what @Magoose said, basically. Tarkin in that Story isn't the 'Obedience through fear and Genocide'-Monster he would become later. He's ruthless, make no mistake, but he has standards and draws lines.
Most importantly, though, he destabilizes the Empire from the inside and through political maneuvers, makes the Rebellion look even more appealing to People then it was in Canon. Also, he gathers Imperial Officers who grew disillusioned with the Empire in Canon (and mostly died for it) into a personal Faction to...ah, but those are enough spoilers.
The Story is called 'Wilhuff Tarkin, Hero of the Rebellion'. It can be found on Spacebattles and FF.net. It's written in a Snippet-Format, with the Chapters written not in chronological Order.
 
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Tarkin's Favor and Folly
Tarkin's Favor and Folly


(Tarkin POV)

It was a difficult thing to admit to being wrong...but it was far more dangerous to let one's pride and sense of ego cloud judgment.

How could you have been so blind on what should have been so obvious? What about Palpatine and this situation of the War caused you to put aside your intellectual and rational mind and let him take sway?
Was it the Firey Speeches? The Plans to honor your kinsman Randolph? The greater funding to the Outer Rim Judicials? Or was it that he spoke to the heart of a difficult situation?
He offered a solution to a dying republic, he gave answers to where once none seemed to exist.

Damn...how long had Palpatine played you along?

"Chief Tarkin, the Files on the Officers are here", an Aide said over the intercom. "Shall I send it with the drink you requested?"

"Yes...and make sure your tasks are finished before leaving...I'll be staying late tonight. Again", you said as the files and the bottle of Corellian Brandy were brought in.

The Files were up to your chin, most of them relating to Officers who recently graduated to the Academy on the 90-day training regime.

It was going to be a long night indeed.

As you went through the various Files, you shook your head. Quite a few of them showed promise, sure. But 90 days was a short time to become decent Officers, no matter how much you crammed into them.

Many of these Graduates would have to hone their skills in the field...or die trying.

Hmmm...

Hmmm...Ahh, someone looked promising? This early?

You opened the File and sighed. "Maximilian Veers, Republic Armored Calvary."

Impressive showings in Mock battles between the Clone Training Batallion, unorthodox, ruthless, and without many political connections.
Hmm, this man had a future.

So did some others he found as he looked through the files.
But most of them were simply just not ready for the Frontlines. And yet, they had no choice but to place them there.

Surprising no one more then yourself, you actually found yourself missing the Jedi as Commanders. Sure, you had had his criticism of them and their Leadership in the past - and still did - but at it still had been better then the current situation.

It was especially apparent that despite your own misgivings, the Jedi themselves have adapted to many points of command. For one thing their ability to adapt to strategic command and knowledge of customs made occupation very much less of a chore.
It wasn't a proper military structure...nor were the Jedi qualified at all, but they did, like their forefathers before them step up when war came to the Galaxy.

It was almost admirable in how they did it, yet also concerning given...recent events.

The news that 100 Jedi had defected and, likely, joined Palpatine were concerning to say the least. You were well read in Galactic History. The last time such a Schism had shook the Jedi Order, it had lead to the devastation of the New Sith Wars, culminating in the Battle of Ruusan. And that had only been 50 Jedi defecting.

Though one must consider the other options they may have had?
Exile, personal rapprochement to family, Draft Dodging and other crimes that may or may not be happening...the Jedi haven't yet allowed you to see into their records on this situation.

Mace Windu had said "A Full and detailed report is being compiled per your request...and it will take time."

Time was something the Republic was slowly losing...

Between the raids in the Midrim, a Sith Lord on the Loose with an apprentice that had more or less gone rogue from said Lord...
Hundreds of Jedi going out of their way to be loyal to a traitor and a lack of officers to pick up the slack in the line left behind, it was a miracle that Order 66 didn't destroy the republic outright and force a Galactice Warlord Period...

The Universe knows you had enough problems at this point.

You poured another glass of brandy.

"What next...?"

Your eyes came to rest on another report, one brought in earlier.

You scowled. Oh, right. The kriffing Logistical issues.

Now, the Logistical nightmare that was the republic military took the power of a dark unfeeling god to truly understand. One that could fill several training manuals and logistical simulations on why logistics is important.

And that was just the Clone Army...

Now, the clone army you could handle with enough time, energy and underpaid soldiers looking for work. No...the real nightmare was the Volunteer army's that Garm Bel Iblis sought to open the floodgate for by creating his own.

You looked at the report again and gagged. So many Weapons deficits. So much armor requisitions! And it was getting bigger by the day.

Granted, you saw the potential benefits of such a Volunteer Army. But without sufficient Armor and Weapons, it was a Pipe Dream at best and a colossal waste at worst.

"Damn Garm and his Anti-Palpatine Ambitions", you mused.

Now...where were you...ahh yes.

Your Staff.

While Yularen was in charge of all Fleet operations, he was only one man in the Totempole of the Wider Republic Military. But before you could take proper notice of the Papers concerning this topic...

"Chief Tarkin...that report on Jedi defectors has arrived", the aide said over intercom.

Ah. It was finally here.

You sat down and began to read through the names.

The first one to catch your eye...Master Pong Krell.

You snorted. Not surprising. You had met Krell once and it had been a thoroughly unpleasant experience. The Casualty Rates alone made even you gag. 85%...in one battle.

Disgraceful.

Not to mention his attitude. At times, it seemed almost like he didn't care about the Greater War at all beyond his own personal Success and Victories. Perhaps that had been exactly the case...

You shook your head as you continued down the list. Some of the Names you recognized, others you did not.

Okay...this was interesting two more were coming up. Sora Bulq, legendary lightsaber duelist, master of the order...Student of Vaapad and fallen jedi warlord under mercenary contract with the CIS...he's been busy in the last several months. Kadrian Sey, Jedi Knight, difficult individual to work with even at the best of times. Also working for the CIS as a mercenary.

It was a disturbing trend that some of them now worked with the enemies of the Republic. Now you only hoped it didn't get worse.

You chuckled tiredly at that. This entire damn War had had a trend of 'and then it got worse'. Why should it stop anytime soon?

Still, ultimately, that just meant you and your fellow Officers would have to keep going more then ever.

You had a duty to fulfill and you would not fail.



A.N.: First Omake for this Quest, written in collab by @Cyberphilosipher and me. Enjoy!
 
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