It's not really that Lupin didn't choose to help Jacob. It's that he unintentionally insulted one of Jacob's main life philosophies. And Jacob took that extremely personally.

I also think Jacob overreacted but the guy's 13. He's allowed to be a little moody.
I don't think that's the only reason. I haven't reread the quest, so my memory is a little fuzzy, but I think Lupin is also showing major favoritism to Harry to the detriment of everyone not in Harry's class. Like, of course there's the fact that he did his best to teach Harry the patronus but said no to us. But more than that a specific example brought up was the Boggart; Harry's class was the only one that got one. Not any other years, not even the Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw class of the same year. Only the Gryffindor/Slytherin 3rd year class got the Boggart hands-on lesson, because that's the one with Harry Potter in it.

My impression is that he's a great teacher for Harry and anyone close enough to be taught at the same time as Harry, but outside of that he's mediocre. Better than Lockhart, but he doesn't actually put any effort into any of his other classes because he only cares about one of his students in the entire school.

I really hope I'm not remembering a different story, because if someone corrects me I'm going to be very embarrassed now.
 
I don't think that's the only reason. I haven't reread the quest, so my memory is a little fuzzy, but I think Lupin is also showing major favoritism to Harry to the detriment of everyone not in Harry's class. Like, of course there's the fact that he did his best to teach Harry the patronus but said no to us. But more than that a specific example brought up was the Boggart; Harry's class was the only one that got one. Not any other years, not even the Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw class of the same year. Only the Gryffindor/Slytherin 3rd year class got the Boggart hands-on lesson, because that's the one with Harry Potter in it.

My impression is that he's a great teacher for Harry and anyone close enough to be taught at the same time as Harry, but outside of that he's mediocre. Better than Lockhart, but he doesn't actually put any effort into any of his other classes because he only cares about one of his students in the entire school.

I really hope I'm not remembering a different story, because if someone corrects me I'm going to be very embarrassed now.
Sorry, but I think you're thinking of some other story. The Boggart was never mentioned in the class and I don't think Jacob has any indication that Lupin has some sort of connection to Harry nor has he been accused of favoritism.

Harry in question has only ever been in the background at most and rarely mentioned. Though Jacob once thought of him as 'talented but with no drive'.
 
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[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
 
Now that moratorium's over:
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?

(Hopefully the votes just including the name of the option won't be overlooked, but I'm not taking any chances :) )
 
[X] I do not hate you, but I pity you – You don't want to break contact with the man, because you do not want your parents to find out what the reason for this is. He has not many years left to his life. You will humour him, but he is not the man you had thought him to be.
 
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
 
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
 
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
 
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
 
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
 
[X] I do not hate you, but I pity you – You don't want to break contact with the man, because you do not want your parents to find out what the reason for this is. He has not many years left to his life. You will humour him, but he is not the man you had thought him to be.


[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
 
Seemingly useful or not, Astronomy, History, and Herbology cannot be allowed to lag indefinitely, not if the higher skill thresholds are to be reached.

- Can't get higher than 12 if not at least 5 skills are at least 12
- New threshold at 15. No skill can go higher than 15, if not at least 7 skills are 12 or higher and three are 15 or higher
- New threshold at 17. No skill can go higher than 17, if not at least 10 skills are 12 or higher and five are 15 or higher
- New threshold at 20. No skill can reach 20, if not at least 12 skills are 15 or higher

In the short term I would want to really level up Herbology. We are going to explore the forest (I don't know if we can fit it before the lake) and that's "free potion ingredients land". But we do need to recognize the valuable ones.
 
Adhoc vote count started by ALanos on Feb 22, 2021 at 3:02 AM, finished with 91 posts and 26 votes.

  • [X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
    [X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
    [X] I do not hate you, but I pity you – You don't want to break contact with the man, because you do not want your parents to find out what the reason for this is. He has not many years left to his life. You will humour him, but he is not the man you had thought him to be.

So Jacob doesn't still hate himself that is good then.
 
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
 
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
 
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?

[X] I do not hate you, but I pity you – You don't want to break contact with the man, because you do not want your parents to find out what the reason for this is. He has not many years left to his life. You will humour him, but he is not the man you had thought him to be.
 
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[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
 
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
 
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
 
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
 
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.

The second one is much too terrifying imo.
 
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.

This portrays what I would like our PC to feel quite well.
It was a heinous thing, but there is no us without it.
So we can be grateful for that in this way.
That obviously does not make it less heinous and will probably give us a perspective that the Flamels would not have had when they made their decisions.

I agree with @Varder above me, the second one is too clinical for me.
 
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