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A Harry Potter Quest: He who was not

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Sebazu said:
....I thought this was supposed to be a HP quest.
This is basically a different unrelated story.
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Well, these are the memories of Jacob's forefathers, who were kind enough to preserve its memories on a book for the future generations to learn about...

But unlike Tom's diary it is not an Horrocrux that will try to steal our life away...

Plus, the wizarding worls has an extremely tiny amount of backstory about Pre-Modern times that any addition of great quality such as this one is extremely welcome.
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
Well, these are the memories of Jacob's forefathers, who were kind enough to preserve its memories on a book for the future generations to learn about...

But unlike Tom's diary it is not an Horrocrux that will try to steal our life away...

Plus, the wizarding worls has an extremely tiny amount of backstory about Pre-Modern times that any addition of great quality such as this one is extremely welcome.
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I think the big issue is the person wants to read an HP quest - not read about some far off thing that really does nothing but toss some decent gifts/perks at us. They're more interested you know in the actual Harry Potter part of the quest aka Hogwarts, learning magical spells, etc... how our actions change the current events theoretically or at least impact things that happen in Hogwarts.

Do I like the storyline? Yeah. But definitely not what I'm interested in - which you can tell by how I phrased my words. I still read it because it'a part of the quest and matters somehow and someway to the key thoughts of Jacob as well as our own actions. Just not my thing either.
 
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I don't know, I think that was great and I would be happy to see more. I suppose that's because I see it as part of the larger story and world that Tabula is trying to draw here. The world building and characters he brings to the table is why this quest is so great. Not a repeat of story events from the books with our own self-insert character doing stuff.
 
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I think the big issue is the person wants to read an HP quest - not read about some far off thing that really does nothing but toss some decent gifts/perks at us. They're more interested you know in the actual Harry Potter part of the quest aka Hogwarts, learning magical spells, etc... how our actions change the current events theoretically or at least impact things that happen in Hogwarts.

Do I like the storyline? Yeah. But definitely not what I'm interested in - which you can tell by how I phrased my words. I still read it because it'a part of the quest and matters somehow and someway to the key thoughts of Jacob as well as our own actions. Just not my thing either.
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Heh, it depends on the person.

My favorite quest on this site, just to make an example, didn't really touch any of the primary characters of the original work (with technically only one exception) even if they were relatively close to where it was taking place.

Sometimes is better to find ways to somehow enrich the setting instead of trying to modify it.
 
I think the flashback are ok, I imagine that the Qm is building to something with these flashbacks that will be relevant to present day and if not at least we are gaining ability's from them.
 
darknessworld said:
Sometimes is better to find ways to somehow enrich the setting instead of trying to modify it.
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That's fair. But it's not what this quest started as and has been before this.

I, for one, just can't make myself care about these characters, or their war, or their misery.

E. Maybe later I'll go through all the memory pieces in one go and it will change my opinion, but for now it is what it is.
 
I'm really liking these memory pieces, they're providing an interesting look at pre-Wand magics. I wonder if the family has kept contributing to the stored memories over the millenia, or if these are just Basque's memories?

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Jacob's reactions to these memories, to tie them in more closely with the main story. Does he recognize any of the magical creatures that Basque doesn't, for example?
 
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WillRobinson said:
I'm really liking these memory pieces, they're providing an interesting look at pre-Wand magics. I wonder if the family has kept contributing to the stored memories over the millenia, or if these are just Basque's memories?

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Jacob's reactions to these memories, to tie them in more closely with the main story. Does he recognize any of the magical creatures that Basque doesn't, for example?
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What I find interesting is how the magical creature that he knows were once humans. Now if they volunteered or were changed against there will is up in the air. I am thinking it may have been the Fae. Which would tie in with the whole caverns arc.
 
I kind of agree, came here to read Harry Potter, and I got the Flintstones. Might still watch but I don't know. Well written though.
 
I'll be honest, I'm always happy to see an update of this quest, but I also wouldn't be sad to see a break from those memories.

Yes, they are important for Jacob and by extension to an extent for us, but the last one felt jarring compared to the rest of the quest. We are already seeing world-building done around Jacob, which we hadn't seen in canon, and those memories feel like an entirely new and different world-building on top. Maybe such a grand and epic world is still lurking somewhere in Jacob's world and we are just at the very beginning, but I enjoyed seeing Jacob progress in the dueling club among peers more than seeing two dudes with swords kill 50 giants while getting stomped on and bitten in half.
 
I just hope the author doesn't get disouraged from the flow do to the all the bitching .


We voted for it and we got an epic tale a good perk and the rest is history , if you don't want to see the Assassins Creed sequince again don't vote for it the next time
 
Well, that got pretty heavy. As for the memories, they are adding world building and some more background to the story. I guess it's a matter of taste, some people like it and some don't. If some people don't like the Journal they can just vote to not read it again. And it is understandable that some aspects of this quest may be more appealing than others to people, especially when there are so many things to like and so many different things to do.

I've personally enjoyed the storyline, and the concept that a distant ancestor was forward thinking enough to put their experiences down for future generations to see and use and grow from. If you have the capability to create such a thing, and want to prepare you descendants for the future, then it sounds like a great idea. It is also a nice change of pace from the usual format where we just have classes. Here we get to see the perspective of our ancestor and what they had to cope with in the era that they lived. As for it being unrelated to the current story, we already have some hints that that probably isn't the case. I'm pretty sure that the hidden caverns in the mountain valley of Hogwarts that the Founders were looking into probably tie into the Journal in some way. Our father seemed to hint that that was the case at least, that whatever might lay beneath Helga's Hall was in some way related to our family history.

Tabula Rasa said:
"Boys," the voice said that now, many years later, you anguished to hear one last time. For such a happening, you would even forsake your magic. "A battle is fought with a clear tactic in mind. Your skills are for naught, if you don't envision a structured path to victory."
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And their father was not only a strong man physically, it looks like he was quite formidable intellectually as well. At least in the regards to tactics.

Tabula Rasa said:
"Do not worry," he said, now looking at a specific spot in the forest again. "After my children best you, I will also dispose of the danger that is growing in your nest."

His smile was still there when he turned around to the giant.

"There will be no room for the wild in our land."
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Guy was also pretty brutal. But I suppose if you lived in the time period they were living in, you wouldn't have the luxury of letting a giant just roam around the wilds.

Tabula Rasa said:
You turned your head around to look for the collars on the giants' necks. While the monsters had no glyphs carved into their bodies, you could see that they had been controlled by the glyphs on their collars instead.

What you had been asking yourself, though; how good was that control, now that the blood offerings had stopped?
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So, the giants were also controlled as well. I guess the theory that they were working together with the Big Bad was a bit off. Though that idea was a bit of a long shot as well because someone that is capable of organizing an army like this likely wouldn't be treating Giants as creatures to be negotiated with.

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Shouting and screaming welcomed you into the camp. The enemies here were of a different kind than those you had fought on the hill before. Here, you could rarely detect a creature naked and with glyphs carved into their skin. Instead they were of clear human descend, all clothed and in rich leather equipment. These men and women were what were of real importance to the enemy, they were the resources that had been kept close, guarding the heart of their blood magics.
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I'm guessing human wizards? Or humans with magical potential? The chaff were transformed and maybe anyone that had the gift was kept back in reserve.

Tabula Rasa said:
Lobo walked up to your left, touching your side with her head as she looked at the ocean. She too had seen what you were hiding from your brother.
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Super happy that Lobo at least made it out. She needs a companion to get through all of this I believe.

Tabula Rasa said:
'What is it that you are seeing. Do not lie to me.'

Ah, again you had repeated mistakes of past. You had oftentimes thought of yourself as smarter than your brothers in your early youth, trying to trick Isaac with one or the other thing. It had never worked, not once. He was about to break the only thing you promised of hiding from him. You wanted to let him die in peace, without the trouble of knowledge.

"I see boats, fifty of them, travelling the ocean from the north. They are soon going to land on our coast, each ship bringing twenty of the creatures. It seems they had planned for an encirclement," you said, keeping your hand on his arm. "But our tactics saw to end the fight in as few hours as possible. So, I guess that didn't work out for them."
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Wow, they thought of everything really. The mastermind behind all these forces must be something special. I'm still thinking it is some sort of Fae.

Tabula Rasa said:
For the first time in your life, twenty-six winters of age, the only survivor of a battle of tens of thousands … were you alone.

The tears would only stop at nightfall.

From here on, you were all on your own.
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Well, I suppose if you don't count Lobo then we are alone. I hope she gets far away from this place. I'm guessing that she eventually has a family of her own otherwise we wouldn't have the book. So she may eventually get some sort of happy ending. But yeah, Isaac has the right idea here. Leave all this death and destruction behind and find something new to dedicate your life to.
 
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This was a great update.

I am still willing to see further memories of Basque family.
This isn't a Harry quest. It's a Jacob quest. Different storyline in the same world.

I think those memory sequences do a good job of building up this sense of legacy that Jacob is suffused in (especially considering his nature as homunculus)... but I would really want to see past meet the present, so to speak.
I have trouble connecting the dots between the only surviving chieftain of a pre-historic tribe and our family.
 
Tabula Rasa said:
When you crossed a third of the distance down to the foot of the hill, where the giants were trying to climb up, you shot out the first arrow. You had learned many a thing from Isaac and Valentino, but you had never before tried to use Antes' branch of magic before. This time you did – it came naturally to you.

Once the bronze tipped arrow left your bow there was a loud boom, your magic more potent than ever, pushing the arrow forward at a speed you could not follow. Only because you had been the one aiming it, you were able to see the giant, whose right eye exploded, as the arrow went into his skull to push through it and then leave it at the other side again. The giant kept climbing for a moment as if nothing had happened, before it finally collapsed and started twitching as his corpse slid back down, hindering those climbing up behind him.

A second arrow left your bow, and another giant collapsed. Then again and again. The fourth and fifth arrow were off, because the Troll under you slowed down as it caught a smaller corpse on its way to the foot of the hill. But from there on, every single arrow caused a giant to collapse. Once the monsters of the wild realized what was happening, they stopped their advance and tried to guard their heads with both arms instead; a strategy that was a success for them, from that moment on, you were able to seriously wound, but not kill any of them.

Soon, you reached the foot of the hill. You left the dead Troll behind and jumped on one of the humongous corpses. Fourteen giants were dead. Six shots had failed.
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Dammit, this Magic Bow thing is AWESOME for fighting magical creatures (who are infamously resistant to spells), especially since Giants seems to be at least as magic resistant as dragons (if not more)

I hope that we manage to unlock it as an Alchemy project later down the line, and that we have not lost it forever...
 
I like the memory sequences I think they show off world building that would be near impossible to do without them. They really showcase how dangerous the world was before civilization really kicked off. I also see it as a really big warning about how dangerous somewhere like Nei'it-ruˆm will be. A world where magic runs rampant and there is no civilization to curb its dangers. I also think we haven't hit the part where it's directly relevant to Jacob, as in it hasn't been spelled out where our ancestor passed on the basque name or what they were trying to teach. People get impatient when the story doesn't explicitly relate to the main character, even if it's been shown that this is a part of his history and will lead to his growth as a character.
 
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I like the memory sequences I think they show off world building that would be near impossible to do without them. They really showcase how dangerous the world was before civilization really kicked off. I also see it as a really big warning about how dangerous somewhere like Nei'it-ruˆm will be. A world where magic runs rampant and there is no civilization to curb its dangers. I also think we haven't hit the part where it's directly relevant to Jacob, as in it hasn't been spelled out where our ancestor passed on the basque name or what they were trying to teach. People get impatient when the story doesn't explicitly relate to the main character, even if it's been shown that this is a part of his history and will lead to his growth as a character.
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I think part of it is due to the quest format of this story. People wouldn't be complaining as much if they were reading this in one go.

In the books, I found the Gaunt family chapters a bit of a chore to go through, but since I could read them all at once, I didn't mind as much.

Of course, it also helped that Rowling told us beforehand, why we must care about the Gaunt family scenes, i.e. because that's where Voldemort got his ring, that would eventually become a horcrux.

@Tabula Rasa , I think one way to address this would be by breaking up the memory scenes into snippets, and maybe including a scene where Jacob digests what he saw in the memories.
 
I really enjoyed this. It shows that there is a great magical world to explore beyond Hogwarts and it shows that our ancestor was an absolute badass.

I found myself really drawn into the story here and would definitely be interested in seeing more of Basques adventures. Though I would agree to have these sequences more spread out.
 
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I think snippets can work well in some places, but the last battle scene probably wasn't one of them, especially as it is the first battle scene we see against these guys. If they were fighting countless battles against regular humans and we had already seen the first battle, then breaking the following battles into snippets is reasonable since you know the rough formula for what is likely to happen and who the key players are. But the last chapter had not only the big battle in it, it was basically the first battle of it's kind against this enemy (it introduced Goblins, Trolls, Giants, the Centerpiece, etc). You can't really break that down too much without losing a lot of the detail that a battle like that requires.
 
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@Tabula Rasa I have been re-reading the part in which Jacob saves the life of Nott and I have a question about Life debt´s in your Harry Potter Verse...

According to the HP Wiki, a Life debt is a magical bond caused when a wizard or a witch saves the life of another one and that is sacred even among bitter enemies, but I have seen quite a few HP works in which the circumstances surrounding the whole life saving can make the bond more or less deep. So for example, Harry saving the life of Ron with the Bezoar (which was done between friends and Harry did not risk his life doing so) wouldn´t be as deep as Jacob saving Nott (in which Jacob risked his life and soul to save a complete stranger)...

Would this also apply to your quest or since it seems to be a perception by the fandom (even if it makes quite a lot of sense) it would not apply here?
 
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