A Simple Transaction I
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Lealope
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It might be worth considering future purchases. Obviously, Pillars is on the docket, likely followed by the Ruling Ring. Postponing Fisher King until the latter might be worthwhile since the value of 5 picks being upgraded by ++Progression might actually have an impact on a 24 Arete purchase. Other than those, Once and Future II is an absolute standout that solved a significant problem in our current build and works extremely well with the other upgrades we've got lined up.
I can wait to bully the Arcanist into cooking Towers of Sea, Sun, Stars, Irridescene, Fish and Pearlescence, for us.
Talace
It must be raining somewhere else!
spamming arete since i really want the tower attempt to succeed
"After he finished with the lunch rush, the vendor lead them through twisting corridors of older construction. They walked for nearly fifteen minutes - a fairly long distance given the superhuman capabilities of all involved - to reach a dilapidated wooden door overgrown by a trellis of vines."
"After he finished with the lunch rush, the vendor lead them through twisting corridors of older construction. They walked for nearly fifteen minutes - a fairly long distance given the superhuman capabilities of all involved - to reach a dilapidated wooden door overgrown by a trellis of vines."
That's actually a really good point. We know that Progression++ has more impact on picks than on Arete, and getting that on our 5 pick Advancement should give us a lot of value.
What if I trade you my Zampano marker 👀
Chill out, there's no call to excoriate a fellow poster for contributing in good faith.
As for what will happen, it's hard to predict someone with Augustine's sheer versatility, but there are a few possibilities. One, it builds on her earlier abduction of Versch, which now makes a bit more sense if we assume she had some semblance of a claim through her Foremost heritage. She didn't sacrifice him, so she has something else in mind, probably more than just using him as a hostage because why should a plan be limited to one objective? We absorb the Tower, and she assumes direct control of the Armament, having spent some time retrofitting Versch. Then Hunger has to fight a friendly Armament at something closer to full strength, choosing between pulling his punches and trampling on Letrizia's hopes and dreams, a bad situation all around.
Two, she goes for an Artifact. She has a claim on the Tears from her father's side, and another Abduction gives her leverage to rip them away from Adorie, not only debuffing Hunger and her sister and nullifying our 25 Arete investment in the Tears, but making it work actively against us by wielding Nilfel's now-empowered crown jewels as a countermeasure to Hunger's Pressure. She is the reigning monarch of what she shortsightedly deems the greatest nation in the world, after all; why should she be denied her birthright? Option number three, in my opinion the most likely, is that she raised the Tower of Earth as a countermeasure to the Cloak of Sky. Note the reduced Arete cost to eat it despite the dissonance with our current Cloak; it's a recent construction, not the defining relic of a dynasty. If Hunger invites the Trojan Horse past the metaphorical gates, it can serve its purpose by attacking the mantle from within, allowing Augustine to contest his control of it with predictably devastating consequences.
Can you see why this is a bad idea? There will never be a shortage of shit to spend Arete on, just because Rihaku has revealed the true form of the Mondo Bait doesn't obligate us to swallow the thing. If you're specifically angling for Bring to Heel, are you confident the thread won't choose tripled Protection or two more Empyrean Signs, especially once the blurbs of the latter are revealed? Absorbing means another build vote, we surely suffer from a shortage of those... But seriously, I learned my lesson about absorbing energy fields larger than the protagonist's head back in the day during the Mardukth Incident. This is a bad idea no matter which way we slice it.
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I need some elaboration. A google search suggests this trauma goes quick deep, showing up even in Most High and even in the Odyssey before it..
Spending eight hundred words to say something that's blatantly obvious is not contribution. It only tells me that poster in question spent no effort reading posts made by me or anyone else. If someone can't afford basic courtesy of listening to what I have to say, then what's the point of this entire discussion?
I can see why it's risky idea, but that's another thing entirely. I've already established amount of value offered by this choice which is why I want to see amount of risk people expect. Thing is, we do have number of defenses LP is not familiar with(Silver, most notably, but also Accursed protection, Edeldross restoration, complete coverage of ADS, Adorie's resistance to diminishment and so on). Now, OOC we can assume that whatever vector of attacks Augustine chooses will work instead of getting lolSilvered, but that still severely reduces what she can actually do. For example, she can take Tears from Adorie, but we'd still have it as Artifact. She can't take it fully as an Artifact because stuff like Silver helps with that. And so on.
So what can she do? She could kill Letrizia or Adorie, for example, but that won't stop Hunger from just clapping her. So she needs to do something that would make her relevant to Hunger, while dodging our defensive effects, and while still advancing her actual goal. Her ultimate move would be to put Hunger under geas that would make us fight Shard, but we have defense for that. Perhaps she wants to consume Walls of Myth? Perhaps combining sky and earth would provoke Shard into attacking us?
But would we mind that? That's final factor her attack needs to cover. If it's something like powering herself up without killing our guys, then that's fine, it's just more picks for us.
Other than that, we have ways to react to her assault. Gisena can Nullify our Cloak if it starts going haywire, we can use Heel to subvert her summons or summon something to reverse her effects and so on.
So, with all that in mind, what would be Augustine's play here? Does she empower herself(includes summoning or subverting Verse), does she target Hunger(either killing us, BFRing us or similar), or does she pit Hunger against Shard? Those are the three possible things she could aim for. How, exactly, can she do it in a way that will work and that would make us feel bad about it? And how can we use our resources to challenge effects of her trap?
You consider all of these and then compare resulting risk to reward of getting 19 Arete and 3 picks worth of value for 12 Arete, deciding if biting the bait is worth it.
I'm fine with best option winning. Right now that's Heel, but if some especially relevant Sign gets mentioned that would be fine too.
I don't think that anything will be as good as Heel's ability to instantly summon relevant Rank 8.5 entity, but we shall see.
Lealope
Not yet invincible
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If possible, she could go for equivalent exchange again of one of our Companions again. Her next likely target would be Aobaru, who's potentially as valuable as an Armament or Tower due to his status. Considering she blew right past Versch's considerable Rank and the effects of Totality, it's not unlikely at all that she could punch right past Aobaru's relatively anemic Vanguard protections. His death not only removes an immensely useful support character, it's also going to hit us with Apocryphal Onslaught, which might do shit like proc the Shard early.
Bring to Heel is amazing but between the risk of us failing, voting on something else or getting fucked anyway, I just don't think its worth the trouble.
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That was horrifying, interesting as well, reading through the aftermath.
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Looking at our own situation, A lot of the worry is centered on Augustine's equivalent exchange, which if it took someone of ours and placed them in her power, I wouldn't be entirely upset about that. Another hostage in the face of our plainly logic-defying growth would place both of us in a tenuous position, and diplomacy becomes more palatable for each party. Though given our, apparent, lack of concern for Versch she may not think hostages are something we will stay our hand for.
More concerning would be if she used it to rip power away from us, so that either the cloak is empowered and in her control which would be disasterous, or if she swiped some other artifact which rendered our gains pointless. That type of scenario makes this whole exercise exceedingly dangerous, because we are either negotiating from a position of weakness or need to fight once again from the position of underdog.
I'm not scared off just yet though, because any swap focused on us should need to overcome our single perfect defense from our cloak, I don't think it's on cooldown so I think we should be in the clear on that front. Any exchange triggered should be a one shot, and since she hasn't seen this capability she wouldn't have planned for it.
One of the only things I see as potentially undermining our protection, would be the corruption of the cloak itself in some form. I don't know how likely that is though, as the option has a chance to fail. If this were a trap with it's main design being the subversion of our cloak after absorption, I imagine she would have made sure it was easily digestible for us.
Thus I think traps that are most likely to affect us are based on long range activations that need us to be anchored in a certain area, such as in the middle of absorbing a tower, or she is merely using this as a distraction for the sole aim of buying her time, with which she may just need a bit more to complete some grand design of hers.
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But would that help LP survive next two or so minutes? Like, that's the thing, she can just do something that would harm Hunger or kill us tomorrow, she needs to deal with Hunger right now.
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ok, I finally finished reading the Even further Beyond thread. I'm now going to start this one.
We still get some kind of points for reactions, right? I think I'm going to react to the various chapters as I go through them, might as well get a few points out of it.
On a secondary note, shame it was never explained what the Rubric, the Logos and Immortal Tribulation were. I expect the Logos to be a way to get less constrained magic, as in something both more powerfull AND much more versatile than the diagrams, but that's not saying much.
By the way all I know about this quest going in (from a very quick skimming months ago) is
1)the decimator affliction and the Geass of Indenture are taken.
2)Gisena from Seram's quest is taken as a companion
3)We get a giant robot powered by the Decimator affliction (whose origin goes back to the Accursed)
4)the setting is a giant galaxy/universe, and our mission is to conquer a big part of it.
5)The main character takes... I think it was called Accretion. I vaguely remember how it works.
And now, on to the first reaction!
Necromancy, for example, CAN be used for good (depending on how exactly it works). I remember a couple stories mentioning zombie-farmers/zombie miners, for example. Well, as long as the zombies are not powered by tormented souls or are somehow poisonous to their surroundings. Same for many kinds of blood magic in fiction.
Basically I think most forbidden arts should simply be restricted, but not outright banned.
Well, I'm digressing, MOVING ON!
He basically survived out of spite for his enemy and nothing more!
Such a tragic end! Yeah, I can imagine how to the ruling caste The Hero would not be that different from a Tyrant, just as threatening to their way of life.
It's an understandable selfishness, the cruelty of someone used to the status quo and against any change capable of reducing their comfort and power.
And the saddest thing is that they could likely easily paint the hero as having become mad! Uneducated masses are easy to manipulate after all, they don't know nor can they really appreciate what they don't have and don't understand.
EDIT: a follow-up post specified what the hero wanted that was so controversial: some kind of schooling, some kind of effective and recognized civil rights, a way for servants (or at least their children) to buy their own freedom.
I GET IT, those are a lot to ask of a medieval society, but still!
I really wonder, just how many would actually refuse such an offer if it was ever made to them? The curses are a heavy burden, but the power, knowing that you would matter, having even the smallest chance at getting what's basically near omnipotence, even just knowing you're likely to live for centuries, millennia, EONS more than you otherwise would...
And, in the end, death is always a possible escape if the burden becomes too much. It's even easy if you take the Geass of Indenture. You just need not to complete your mission.
I'll say this: I would have voted for Vengeance if I was here for it, simply because I like the story it promises more than Freedom, and yet Freedom is certainly the wiser choice.
The Apocryphal curse promises no peace, no rest, no respite. When combined with the Geass of Indenture it's a promise of eternal suffering, or at the very least eternal struggle. Not many could enjoy living like that.
And yet, vengeance might very well be the only thing capable of motivating the hero to action here.
Also we can't forget the promise to (potentially) unlimited power! That would be attractive to many people, even with the costs involved.
A combat type could very well become the most important person in his world, but a PROGRESSION TYPE... well, that might just become one of the most important beings in the whole multiverse! And there's always that small glimmer of hope, that with eternity in front of them, even the power of the Accursed itself might not be out of reach... even he had to start somewhere after all!
So, In his shoes I'd likely take Freedom, but as a quester I'd vote Vengeance.
now, let's see these curses!
The easy choice for a quester, as we'll never really feel the weight of its burden. I think it's also a curse most people would take if they really got the choice, especially as a progression type.
And if you ever get tired of leaving, or somehow end up in an "eternal torment" scenario... well, you always have a way out. You just need to wait for the time to expire.
Also there is something to say for the chance to travel the multiverse. You'd never get bored at least, and once you manage to mitigate the curse enough to bring a few people with you, to get some more time between a quest and the other, or even a way to travel back to the old worlds you left behind... well, it might not be so bad at that point.
Not a good choice for most Freedom Build though. Freedom strikes me as the Hero wanting to finally rest. This doesn't really allow him to, though he might hope to travel the multiverse making each world he visits better for the people living in it.
Even if he has to kill a few well-meaning heroes, well, he could always take their place if he thinks their cause was worthy.
ok. I KNOW this curse gets taken, and initially my gut feeling was strongly against it. Then I thought about it some more.
This curse synergizes really well with both progression type and the geass of indenture. As long as you can grow stronger, as long as you can visit more universes, you'll always be able to find new ways to mitigate it. Maybe you can start limiting the absorption of life force from evil people. Maybe an high enough level cursebearer could learn to direct his life-drain to various Hell/Abyss dimensions. Maybe at some point its possible to use other kind of energies in place of life force.
A motivated enough person would likely be able to keep up with the curse, and a progression type hero would certainly be motivated enough.
Not good for a Freedom build though.
Conclusion: perfect for a progression type, especially combined with Geass of Indenture
Good for a Freedom build, horrible when combined with geass of indenture. Removing available time (and preventing time magic abuse) when time is your most important resource is a horrible idea.
If the hero is going to try for a relatively peacefull life though this makes sense. As a combat type he could probably manage to reduce the sleeping hours to 12 relatively quickly, Maybe even to 11 given enough time. That's not too bad for a life NOT dedicated to constant escalation.
mh... I suppose it wouldn't be too bad for a hermit Freedom build, if the hero simply wanted to live a peaceful life alone. For most other builds it would end up poisoning any social connection even worse than the Brand of the Wretched does. You CAN work beyond even the most horrible of first impressions with enough work, but this would make it hard for the hero to make good connections with anyone except the rare immune person. And what if these persons are simply unsuited to the Heroes? It's not like we can choose them (well, I suppose that might be a possible mitigation, to make a single person immune.)
not the worst option in the end, though definitely not an easy pick, especially for Vengeance.
If we went nation-building (which requires NO GEASS OF INDENTURE) this could somewhat- easily be mitigated by becoming the boss (or by being a hermit living outside society). It's a bit risky for a progression type, as we'd basically always go against whatever laws and society we end up in, but I suppose it's not the worst curse.
Good for a peaceful life as it doesn't actually affect your standard of living, only your combat prowess. Not a good Idea for a progression type though, ESPECIALLY when combined with the apocryphal curse and the geass of indenture. In that scenario we need all the power we can get, and we have no idea when we'll meet our first geass-compatible person, which might very well be someone we don't trust with that level of control on us.
This is a much worse curse than it sounds like.
If you don't take Geass of Indenture, or if you are a combat type cursebearer, it's very likely that at some point your growth will stall. Yet, the curse continues to grow. And as a progression type this curse removes your ability to hide, train and prepare for the next challenge.
...well, this is good for us the readers, as challenges make for an interesting story. It's the worst curse possible for a Freedom build, as it goes against its spirit (how could the Hero enjoy his freedom with such a curse on him?), It's simply moderately bad for a progression type, lowering his chances of survival but also accelerating his growth if he survives.
I'm not surprised it comes standard with the Vengeance option , it would be an obvious pick if it didn't.
Now on to the powers
the least attractive remittance to me. If we want immediate power, Scepter is better. If we want versatility (or our family back) wishes are better. If we want higher potential the Praxis (which I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS I'M SO CURIOUS DAMN IT!) is better.
This middle-of-the-road power doesn't satisfy me at all.
best immediate power option. Good for a Freedom Build that wants a mostly peaceful life, maybe even NECESSARY for a progression type that needs some immediate power to raise his own chances of survival.
Possibly the best choice for a Freedom build. self-restoration to go back to our prime, revival of our loved ones, and a get-out-of-fucked card for any true emergency.
Possibly also good for a progression type, as we could always keep them in reserve for emergencies, giving us much higher chances of survival in the beginning and leaving us a few tricks up our sleaves until we really, truly need them.
The Praxis. I despair of this ever being chosen. Rihaku, PLEASE, If this wasn't the picked power explain at least the basics of how it works sometime!
I know we went progression-type, and this is a bad pick for it... I suppose when you look at the truly long term the best choice might be three wishes for that. If, very far in the future, one gets access to a proactive True Wish, one could use it to get access to the Imperial Praxis.
It's probably overkill at that point, and a wish more along the lines of curse mitigations, a pocket universe in which to relax, or the always popular "whatever you know I'd enjoy more.." (possibly with better phrasing) would be a better choice for most people.
Well, I know Gisena gets taken (I DID like her a lot, though I think I'd prefer Suizhen, Imperia or Aurelia, even if Gisena's powers are probably better for curse mitigation), and I think I might have seen Hunger as well.
On that note Hunger is not a bad choice for someone with the Affliction of SLumber. You remove the need to train (which is really time-dependent) and get stronger my fighting. It would make the affliction more viable for a progression type in my opinion.
2060 words, including the bit at the beginning before the actual reaction
This took longer than I expected. Not sure If I'll continue for ALL future updates, but I think I'll try a few more.
We still get some kind of points for reactions, right? I think I'm going to react to the various chapters as I go through them, might as well get a few points out of it.
On a secondary note, shame it was never explained what the Rubric, the Logos and Immortal Tribulation were. I expect the Logos to be a way to get less constrained magic, as in something both more powerfull AND much more versatile than the diagrams, but that's not saying much.
By the way all I know about this quest going in (from a very quick skimming months ago) is
1)the decimator affliction and the Geass of Indenture are taken.
2)Gisena from Seram's quest is taken as a companion
3)We get a giant robot powered by the Decimator affliction (whose origin goes back to the Accursed)
4)the setting is a giant galaxy/universe, and our mission is to conquer a big part of it.
5)The main character takes... I think it was called Accretion. I vaguely remember how it works.
And now, on to the first reaction!
yeah, that's how things usually go for an isekai protagonist. There can be quite a bit of suffering in the middle of the story though, just think about Re:Zero and Shield Hero!
It's honestly quite surprising he simply didn't give up at this point. Most isekai characters are simply not ready for this kind of challenge. Really few people would be in general I think.
On this note, I have to say I've always disliked the idea of "forbidden arts". Most of the time the reasons that are given for their being "forbidden" simply doesn't convince me.
Necromancy, for example, CAN be used for good (depending on how exactly it works). I remember a couple stories mentioning zombie-farmers/zombie miners, for example. Well, as long as the zombies are not powered by tormented souls or are somehow poisonous to their surroundings. Same for many kinds of blood magic in fiction.
Basically I think most forbidden arts should simply be restricted, but not outright banned.
Well, I'm digressing, MOVING ON!
DAMN, you really gave him the emptiest victory you could Rihaku!
He basically survived out of spite for his enemy and nothing more!
Such a tragic end! Yeah, I can imagine how to the ruling caste The Hero would not be that different from a Tyrant, just as threatening to their way of life.
It's an understandable selfishness, the cruelty of someone used to the status quo and against any change capable of reducing their comfort and power.
And the saddest thing is that they could likely easily paint the hero as having become mad! Uneducated masses are easy to manipulate after all, they don't know nor can they really appreciate what they don't have and don't understand.
EDIT: a follow-up post specified what the hero wanted that was so controversial: some kind of schooling, some kind of effective and recognized civil rights, a way for servants (or at least their children) to buy their own freedom.
I GET IT, those are a lot to ask of a medieval society, but still!
And here comes the Accursed. He made progress with the "hated on first sight" curse it seems. Or maybe the Hero is simply that good at ignoring his hate.
I really wonder, just how many would actually refuse such an offer if it was ever made to them? The curses are a heavy burden, but the power, knowing that you would matter, having even the smallest chance at getting what's basically near omnipotence, even just knowing you're likely to live for centuries, millennia, EONS more than you otherwise would...
And, in the end, death is always a possible escape if the burden becomes too much. It's even easy if you take the Geass of Indenture. You just need not to complete your mission.
I'll say this: I would have voted for Vengeance if I was here for it, simply because I like the story it promises more than Freedom, and yet Freedom is certainly the wiser choice.
The Apocryphal curse promises no peace, no rest, no respite. When combined with the Geass of Indenture it's a promise of eternal suffering, or at the very least eternal struggle. Not many could enjoy living like that.
And yet, vengeance might very well be the only thing capable of motivating the hero to action here.
Also we can't forget the promise to (potentially) unlimited power! That would be attractive to many people, even with the costs involved.
A combat type could very well become the most important person in his world, but a PROGRESSION TYPE... well, that might just become one of the most important beings in the whole multiverse! And there's always that small glimmer of hope, that with eternity in front of them, even the power of the Accursed itself might not be out of reach... even he had to start somewhere after all!
So, In his shoes I'd likely take Freedom, but as a quester I'd vote Vengeance.
now, let's see these curses!
The easy choice for a quester, as we'll never really feel the weight of its burden. I think it's also a curse most people would take if they really got the choice, especially as a progression type.
And if you ever get tired of leaving, or somehow end up in an "eternal torment" scenario... well, you always have a way out. You just need to wait for the time to expire.
Also there is something to say for the chance to travel the multiverse. You'd never get bored at least, and once you manage to mitigate the curse enough to bring a few people with you, to get some more time between a quest and the other, or even a way to travel back to the old worlds you left behind... well, it might not be so bad at that point.
Not a good choice for most Freedom Build though. Freedom strikes me as the Hero wanting to finally rest. This doesn't really allow him to, though he might hope to travel the multiverse making each world he visits better for the people living in it.
Even if he has to kill a few well-meaning heroes, well, he could always take their place if he thinks their cause was worthy.
ok. I KNOW this curse gets taken, and initially my gut feeling was strongly against it. Then I thought about it some more.
This curse synergizes really well with both progression type and the geass of indenture. As long as you can grow stronger, as long as you can visit more universes, you'll always be able to find new ways to mitigate it. Maybe you can start limiting the absorption of life force from evil people. Maybe an high enough level cursebearer could learn to direct his life-drain to various Hell/Abyss dimensions. Maybe at some point its possible to use other kind of energies in place of life force.
A motivated enough person would likely be able to keep up with the curse, and a progression type hero would certainly be motivated enough.
Not good for a Freedom build though.
Conclusion: perfect for a progression type, especially combined with Geass of Indenture
Good for a Freedom build, horrible when combined with geass of indenture. Removing available time (and preventing time magic abuse) when time is your most important resource is a horrible idea.
If the hero is going to try for a relatively peacefull life though this makes sense. As a combat type he could probably manage to reduce the sleeping hours to 12 relatively quickly, Maybe even to 11 given enough time. That's not too bad for a life NOT dedicated to constant escalation.
mh... I suppose it wouldn't be too bad for a hermit Freedom build, if the hero simply wanted to live a peaceful life alone. For most other builds it would end up poisoning any social connection even worse than the Brand of the Wretched does. You CAN work beyond even the most horrible of first impressions with enough work, but this would make it hard for the hero to make good connections with anyone except the rare immune person. And what if these persons are simply unsuited to the Heroes? It's not like we can choose them (well, I suppose that might be a possible mitigation, to make a single person immune.)
not the worst option in the end, though definitely not an easy pick, especially for Vengeance.
If we went nation-building (which requires NO GEASS OF INDENTURE) this could somewhat- easily be mitigated by becoming the boss (or by being a hermit living outside society). It's a bit risky for a progression type, as we'd basically always go against whatever laws and society we end up in, but I suppose it's not the worst curse.
Good for a peaceful life as it doesn't actually affect your standard of living, only your combat prowess. Not a good Idea for a progression type though, ESPECIALLY when combined with the apocryphal curse and the geass of indenture. In that scenario we need all the power we can get, and we have no idea when we'll meet our first geass-compatible person, which might very well be someone we don't trust with that level of control on us.
This is a much worse curse than it sounds like.
If you don't take Geass of Indenture, or if you are a combat type cursebearer, it's very likely that at some point your growth will stall. Yet, the curse continues to grow. And as a progression type this curse removes your ability to hide, train and prepare for the next challenge.
...well, this is good for us the readers, as challenges make for an interesting story. It's the worst curse possible for a Freedom build, as it goes against its spirit (how could the Hero enjoy his freedom with such a curse on him?), It's simply moderately bad for a progression type, lowering his chances of survival but also accelerating his growth if he survives.
I'm not surprised it comes standard with the Vengeance option , it would be an obvious pick if it didn't.
Now on to the powers
the least attractive remittance to me. If we want immediate power, Scepter is better. If we want versatility (or our family back) wishes are better. If we want higher potential the Praxis (which I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS I'M SO CURIOUS DAMN IT!) is better.
This middle-of-the-road power doesn't satisfy me at all.
best immediate power option. Good for a Freedom Build that wants a mostly peaceful life, maybe even NECESSARY for a progression type that needs some immediate power to raise his own chances of survival.
Possibly the best choice for a Freedom build. self-restoration to go back to our prime, revival of our loved ones, and a get-out-of-fucked card for any true emergency.
Possibly also good for a progression type, as we could always keep them in reserve for emergencies, giving us much higher chances of survival in the beginning and leaving us a few tricks up our sleaves until we really, truly need them.
The Praxis. I despair of this ever being chosen. Rihaku, PLEASE, If this wasn't the picked power explain at least the basics of how it works sometime!
I know we went progression-type, and this is a bad pick for it... I suppose when you look at the truly long term the best choice might be three wishes for that. If, very far in the future, one gets access to a proactive True Wish, one could use it to get access to the Imperial Praxis.
It's probably overkill at that point, and a wish more along the lines of curse mitigations, a pocket universe in which to relax, or the always popular "whatever you know I'd enjoy more.." (possibly with better phrasing) would be a better choice for most people.
Well, I know Gisena gets taken (I DID like her a lot, though I think I'd prefer Suizhen, Imperia or Aurelia, even if Gisena's powers are probably better for curse mitigation), and I think I might have seen Hunger as well.
On that note Hunger is not a bad choice for someone with the Affliction of SLumber. You remove the need to train (which is really time-dependent) and get stronger my fighting. It would make the affliction more viable for a progression type in my opinion.
2060 words, including the bit at the beginning before the actual reaction
This took longer than I expected. Not sure If I'll continue for ALL future updates, but I think I'll try a few more.
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Bring to Heel's blurb has me tempted. Very tempted. It may be worth the risks... Imagine if Augustine spent a bunch of time conjuring up a super-summon to aid her in battle and we just yoinked it.
Still, my "Not Dying" instincts are still telling me that the Methodical routes are the best bet... Maybe if it's only between Cut Through and Absorb I'll go for the shiny.
Still, my "Not Dying" instincts are still telling me that the Methodical routes are the best bet... Maybe if it's only between Cut Through and Absorb I'll go for the shiny.
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
The Mardukth incident, going by what I know of Ulyssian from Most High, was something Lealoupe would have been very disappointed in him for not doing - and then fixing afterwards, because patching things up after taking a crazy risk for overwhelming power is also Odyssial's thing. Moon would have understood, too. The biggest issue is that he named himself Lonely, and wasn't in the sort of mindset to remember he could fix that soon.
Like, really. It's basically just a weird Limit Break for him. (Heck, his title abbreviates to LSD!)
Like, really. It's basically just a weird Limit Break for him. (Heck, his title abbreviates to LSD!)
I think you're misinterpreting OaF II due to a quirk of the preview's formatting, Bring to Heel is a separate advancement. Knowledge of its true functionality is reserved for subscribers for now, but I can vouch for the sickness of the associated blurb!
- Location
- US
[X] Absorb the Tower of Earth
- Location
- Earth
[X] Cut Through
Switching back, now that Absorb is getting dangerously buffed by the temptation of the Blurb.
Switching back, now that Absorb is getting dangerously buffed by the temptation of the Blurb.