Maragas
Nothing to see here.
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- Tree House
I have you know I will fight to my dying breath for the Ruling Ring!
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A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I flatly refuse to buy another sword based EFB. We already have one. Pick a different artifact.
? But what EFB are you saving up for then? Total Eclipse is almost pure potential, and if we aren't stealthing our way through, we'll need firepower.
Yeah if we don't take stealth here it'll basically end up as this (Though I think there's only like a 5% chance we actually get to save for Once and Future, almost guaranteed we're forced into Stance). Not a build path I have much fondness for but it is decent.
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Well, I really hope there we won't discover new depths to our salt mines over this choice afterwards. Because to me it's pretty clear that the next Temple EFB would be a Blade one.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Ring would be hella neat too, but from how votes have gone so far, I suspect it can't get past all the scaredy-cats afraid of the primacy contest. I'll certainly vote for it if it seems viable, though!
- Location
- Pindorama
It seems the line has collapsed, huh.
No, That's terrible strategy! Total Eclipse is pure potential when we are lacking immediate power now. If we have enough for an EFB it's at a terrible disadvantage! If you don't want another Blade EFB, spend the Arete now! Same for Pillars, it's pure utility! We gotta spened it now if we want the balanced advancement!
For me it's the fact that I don't want to buy three Blade EFBs; so getting closer to that is actually a negative outcome. To avoid that, spend Arete now; get an EFB when we are ready for Ruling Ring!
Ahh, why must you drive us away from Ruling Ring Rihaku!?
Nah, if get stealth we can abadon the social path! Much less risky by word of Rihaku himself!
Getting three Blade EFB's is the very opposite of giving the Evening Sky love! Think of the poor thing, neglected for so long!
No, That's terrible strategy! Total Eclipse is pure potential when we are lacking immediate power now. If we have enough for an EFB it's at a terrible disadvantage! If you don't want another Blade EFB, spend the Arete now! Same for Pillars, it's pure utility! We gotta spened it now if we want the balanced advancement!
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Same.
*Pitches Pillars as the alternate so we don't get stuck with 3 blade ones*
[X] +1 pick below
[X] Evening Sky: Shadowlord
A vote for Adept is pretty close to guarantee for a blade EFB from my perspective, there's almost no chance it leads to pillars. That would require basically no temple complications, in which case the Ring dream would also be alive once again.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I will make at least five (5) pieces of art and write at least 2000 words of Omake to make sure we don't get a Sword EFB, if we're gonna save.
Balance path is the only path, Sword-only losers go and stay go.
Balance path is the only path, Sword-only losers go and stay go.
Maragas
Nothing to see here.
- Location
- Tree House
Primacy miramacy who cares, we are on the road of freeing a ring from the temple and potentially using it. Which will probably involve us with Primacy shenanigans anyway. Plus we should get it as soon as we can as it will evolves our options.
Not to mention Apoc Curse, when it activates again, will be weakened by our enormously increased control over reality.
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- Omniverse #1345
An EFB is not going to defeat a curse as nasty as Apocryphal.
Rihaku
The Internet
It's true that Shadowlord is expensive, but any option that offers such a great lateral expansion in your capabilities will inevitably have opportunity costs. Even if you buy it, you'll still have 11 Arete in hand for other purposes. I wouldn't necessarily say that an EFB-equivalent is better than a 7-Arete pick in every situation - for example, something that makes you incredible in direct combat can still be minimally useful in situations where combat is unacceptable! Ambushing an Armament pilot outside of their mech is a lot more viable than trying to go toe to toe with the Ereadhihr directly, even if you did have a power-type EFB right now!
It's not a question of saving, it's what capabilities we'll need. If we can't steal, we'll have to fight for it. Potential-type options aren't much help there, since we're on a timer.
[X] +1 pick below
[X] Evening Sky: Shadowlord
[X] Evening Sky: Shadowlord
Maragas
Nothing to see here.
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- Tree House
No but as Rihaku stated The Ruling Rings reality control have us fight Apoc curse at the same grounds.
Enohthree
Hypersane
Ironically Pillars's biggest boon aside from the fact that it can always make worthy opponents is that it also takes zero time in the real world for the 7 days inside to pass. "Once a month vanish and then come back the moment you left with 7-14 extra picks" is utility that's always immediate power simply due to the purchasing power of "oh hey I'm Stranglethorn/Septuple Echos stronger now"
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- Omniverse #1345
I suspect we'll be getting in a fight either way. I just suspect shadowlord will let us take out some of our nastiest opposition before they can fight back.
Going straight from Hunger's wrath form to final form doesn't make any sense. It'd be like if Goku went straight from Great Ape to Ultra Instinct. I know form of rage was sacrificed, but aesthetically it was necessary that we have an additional form building hype for our final form. We need a penultimate form.
Proper anime rules say that sacrificing the form of rage should be the unlock conditions for a new, even better super secret special form. He sacrificed his rage, and in its place comes something new. Like a form of clarity, where Hunger is icy cold and methodical, or form of transcendence, with themes of Buddhist emotional emptiness.
- Location
- Pindorama
Getting power and safety in the form of Shadowlord would help our survival immensely as well and doesn't commit us to a single path EFB wise. It's the safest option outright. even. We can even buy that and a stance if necessary.
We chose Infiltration dude, one less day isn't enough to make sure Apocryphal doesn't come back, we will be spending a great amount of time inside anyway. We can't just give up and decide to Onslaught, we have to live with what we previously voted. And Shadowlord makes infiltration much smoother in that regard.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
It's also good for Hunger's mental health and keeping our companions up to stuff, since they'll be able to come with us.
And it's a good place to make a first impression on someone powerful. Tyrant is weakened to 1/3 power, and we are in our place of power.