- Location
- Omniverse #1345
?? I believe it's a significantly higher intelligence boost, where did you get +1 from?
A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
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Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
- Location
- USA
We have 2+ in Intelligence, and increasing their value by 50% would give us 3. no3's only looking at that part of the option, which to be fair is the only part in the text of the update.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Ah, he missed the "That user" part.
Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
- Location
- USA
Wait, no, now I'm confused. Hunger gets an extra 50% of the value of every + he has, in the two stats that the prisoner had highest. That was my reading of it, I assumed that people were talking about some comment I missed, but they were confident so I didn't question it.
That would be much better short-term, huh. I don't... think that's what it says, but it would be cool if it was.
How so? I mean, I get that it might make Hunger a bad example for his child in some respects, if teaching them to conform to society was a priority, but otherwise? Why is submitting to external laws, customs, or authorities, required to be a good father?
- Location
- Pindorama
Given the math implied by:
@Enohthree's interpretation is correct. Unerring gives AGI and CON. We have 18 CON, we get 36 if we double it and 27 if it's +50%.
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Maragas
Nothing to see here.
- Location
- Tree House
If it's correct the only real benefit of choosing the Librarian is his magic system. Yeah no thanks.
- Location
- Pindorama
INT is kind of way more valuable than physical stats, and it applies to all future gains too. Imagine that with Inner Halo! The magic system is pretty good too, kind or covers all of our weaknesses. I wouldn't underestimate it.
Fanwork#2236 Words
Reaction: "Sky Above Sky"
and writing doujinshi for Porcelain, there is a significant difference between the efforts of an individual and those of a nation bent towards some purpose.
This time around we've made an enemy of such a nation full of super-powered individuals and are paying the price for that, though Progression-Type Cursebearers have more latitude in such circumstances than most. We can grow and feed on the conflict as long as we keep it in certain bounds, even if that's not an easy thing to do by any means.
How much do we need to get injured before 'it was just a flesh wound' stops being convincing?
Hunger: Ultimate Attack! 4bear Beeaaam!
Vanreir: I see your Ultimate and raise Basic Thrust!
Vanreir: It's super-effective against just about anything, you see.
Hunger: Oh shit.
That was the moment Hunger realized he'd fucked up.
I liked the 'surprise artillery, bastard' moment from our hapless ally. Would have been better to succeed in getting into grappling range though, but just because Vanreir is straightforward doesn't mean he's an idiot.
Too bad we couldn't keep Vanreir in place for a few moments more, that would have made the rest of the fight much easier. I suppose having two souls isn't solely a weakness, but can be a strength as well, if his father's soul is willing to withstand the Pressure for Vanreir.
The victory wasn't only bittersweet for Hunger, I didn't feel very good about the implications either, both for us and for his remaining family. Still, he's not the first to suffer defeat and die at our hands, nor will he be the last. He was exceptional in many ways, I'll admit, someone I would have liked to get to know better and help as a character, but everyone is a hero of their own story.
[X] Lingering Exhaustion
[X] Forebear's Blade - Uttermost
Reaction: "Sky Above Sky"
Past quests often leave traces in our decisions and patterns of thought. I mean, the phrase has a potent enough meaning on its own, but Zhang Kong had been such a strong and evocative opponent that he'd forever tainted it by association. Even when there is no other connection to him whatsoever, the first reflexive thought on seeing this for me was 'oh shit, did we get eaten by the Honorable Elder?'
That's a feeling that is going to dog our steps for a very long time, I suspect. Even should we finish the Temple successfully, which becomes a more uncertain proposition with every day, we'll still have to brace ourselves for whatever Apocrypha had been cooking up in the wider world out there while we were busy with our dungeon crawl. It hardly bears thinking about, but I think that given our planned trajectory it is pretty likely it was either stirring shit up in the Voyaging Realm to make our journey even more difficult or influencing the tenuous situation in the Empire to our detriment. Hell, I won't be surprised to find out that Letrizia's father had died of complications by the time we rush back, though I suppose it could be more creative than that and do something more interesting.
Unsurprisingly, Hunger is impressed by the jump in stats provided by Quickening, but the real bread and butter he appreciates is Thousand Cuts. It expands our tactical options massively and improves our Ultimate significantly. The result of battle is often decided through an exertion of his utmost power, though it would be impossible without the support his stats provide.
They've been here for a long, long time and had likely perfected their approach to this challenge through numerous attempts at getting the Lunar Ring by outsiders. As Seram once noted in his musings after miraculously getting support from the Sorcerous Council thanks to Jeanne being super-competent
This time around we've made an enemy of such a nation full of super-powered individuals and are paying the price for that, though Progression-Type Cursebearers have more latitude in such circumstances than most. We can grow and feed on the conflict as long as we keep it in certain bounds, even if that's not an easy thing to do by any means.
Are you perhaps doubting the Forebear's wisdom, Hunger? If it can't be cut, that means you're not cutting hard enough. Versatility is something people that don't have the Forebear's powers need to console themselves with! Sadly we haven't reached that level yet, so we're forced to compromise, but one day we'll show everyone the true meaning of employing our Cutting Wit in diplomatic negotiations.
Is there time for regrets still? Sometimes I look back on our choices and wonder how we ended up here. Most made sense individually, even if some were out there, but the end result is a bit... outrageous. Still, this is the course we set, so all we can do is complete this heroic task we've set before Hunger.
We never went into the Encampment and so didn't have a chance to find out their important figures, but this is supposed to be a R-type. Maybe he just hasn't come into his own yet, but seeing him so easily dismantled is worrying. I suppose he was also a bad match-up against Vanreir, fighting in heavy armor against Mister Pierce Through.
Well, that was annoying. Not that we expected Evening Sky to provide significant protection, which is why it didn't figure in most of our tactics, but for its defenses to be so paper-thin in the face of the Unerring Blade wasn't good news by any means. Not that I'm accusing our Mantle of anything, we probably need to invest more Arete and XP in it if we want it to remain useful in such uneven fights.
Our poor liver, we didn't even have any opportunity to try out the local booze before he'd cut it down! A truly cruel and merciless opponent that not only wants to take our life but also what little enjoyment we derive from it. Or maybe the shot was well-intentioned? Perhaps Vanreir is a religious teetotaler in addition to everything else and spreads his faith this way.
How much do we need to get injured before 'it was just a flesh wound' stops being convincing?
Hunger: To hell with this 'hold back your best stuff until a critical moment' nonsense.
Hunger: Ultimate Attack! 4bear Beeaaam!
Vanreir: I see your Ultimate and raise Basic Thrust!
Vanreir: It's super-effective against just about anything, you see.
Hunger: Oh shit.
That was the moment Hunger realized he'd fucked up.
Does he have a personal grudge against our critical internal organs? We need that to pump blood!..
...actually, it looks like we don't.
I liked the 'surprise artillery, bastard' moment from our hapless ally. Would have been better to succeed in getting into grappling range though, but just because Vanreir is straightforward doesn't mean he's an idiot.
Seems like our tactic to disturb his rhythm through chaotic Ring influence didn't quite work out. Was there actually a point in dodging there though? What with Vanreir's Blade being Unerring. Or did it help keeping us blinded rather than brain-dead?
It's quite annoying to see someone use our own intended tactics against us to such great success, having our eye taken out where we were the ones wanting to cripple his vision. At least our decision to aim for the divide between his father's soul and his own paid off, even if the cost was steep. We aren't that proficient in the matters of the soul and don't have specialized powers for it, so we had to make do with raw Pressure. Such momentous exertions on Hunger's part are often a precursor to Tiredness or even Exhaustion.
Yeah, attacking his soul would have been much more effective than trying to overcome him in a physical fight, though it's quite uncertain we would have had the time and speed to enact such effects with a different, more magic-oriented build. Having an effective attack is all well and good, but we need to be alive to cast the spell.
Robots, robots everywhere. This is the second such specimen we've stumbled upon, though this time it's an ally rather than an enemy. Is there some kind of nation of magic robots out there in the Voyaging Realm?
Ah, Exhaustion my old friend, how I've missed you. Not.
Too bad we couldn't keep Vanreir in place for a few moments more, that would have made the rest of the fight much easier. I suppose having two souls isn't solely a weakness, but can be a strength as well, if his father's soul is willing to withstand the Pressure for Vanreir.
Well damn son, you've made short work of the robot. Alas, we barely knew him. Vanreir seems to take his side job as a Hero-Killer seriously, getting rid of interesting characters before we had a chance to interact with them.
Talk about using his own body as a weapon and Thrusting with everything he's got. It's a good thing the attack had taken so much out of him, because if he'd managed to strike us one more time while we were blinded and so greatly expended from our spiritual Pressure assault, we would have likely been dead. Well, we would have probably killed him with Form of Rage seeing how he's on his last legs, but I wouldn't completely bet on it, he's that bullshit.
That's an aspect of Hunger I like. He doesn't hold back against his enemies, but he also still has it in him to respect them despite being on opposing sides, be it for their skill or their convictions. Except for that Librarian guy, because fuck him and the high horse he rode on.
And of course he has Battle Continuation, because why not? It doesn't heal his wounds, so he might still keel over afterwards, but that doesn't really help us in the moment. Crippled all over, drained of blood and pushed to the brink of exhaustion, he still fights on. Man, wouldn't that have been a nice ability to have for our Hunger? We heal quickly and normal weak points are less so thanks to the Ring of Blood, but we can still be disabled for a time. Not so for this guy, he can still continue as long as he draws breath, his will is undiminished and it's not physically impossible to make attacks.
Really hard to hold back comments there. All I'll say is that we can still go on for days if he can keep up!
What a stubborn bastard, still aiming for our eye even after we've managed to restore it. Was being completely blinded one of the more devastating complications that were possible in the aftermath of this fight?
Right back at you, Vanreir. Hunger has his own reasons for doing this, though they're perhaps not quite as pure when it comes to the voters themselves.
Once is circumstance, twice is happenstance, but this is starting to become a pattern. We keep exhausting ourselves in fights we had no business winning. It looks awesome and is a really enjoyable read, but seeing his suffering during the downtime and the desperate straits it forces Hunger into isn't really fun.
Strange, did the later plan that secured Hunger's win only occur to him in the heat of the moment, or was he so uncertain about its feasibility that he didn't want to rely on it? Or maybe he got that much into acting in order to deceive Vanreir.
This was a destined fight in some sense, which is one of the reasons why I can't really bring myself to regret running into such a superior opponent. He was a credit to the Forebear's legacy and can wear his last name with pride, no matter what those Inners would say about him and his family.
I wish we could have met Vanreir under better circumstances, he seems like a swell guy. Still, sometimes conflict is inevitable. He wanted to protect his way of life and earn his honor back, we wanted to free the Ring. There was little room for maneuver here.
I should have known at this very moment that Hunger was putting on his bullshitting hat here. No matter how much he respects his enemies, Hunger is eminently pragmatic. Healing Vanreir and saying that he wants to decide this fight with a final dramatic clash between their swords? Seralize would have had a lot to say about this, none of it worth mentioning in polite company.
This was even stronger foreshadowing, what with emphasizing the jeweled Ring, but I honestly didn't connect the dots until the very last moment. Hunger is so good at setting all this up that it would truly seem like a prelude to an honorable clash between two equal opponents to anyone who doesn't know the former Hero.
Hah. He really got into the act. Though for him to make it look so believable, there was probably really a part of him that thought this would end with a clash of swords.
I thought for a moment we were seriously going to die or at least lose our hand there.
Then this moment of pure 'what the hell happened', almost brushing over the part about deflection and panicking at seeing him letting go of the Blade, only to go back and do a double-take. Because what could we have possibly deflected him with if our sword was too slow?
I'm somewhat ashamed the Ring's indestructibility didn't occur to me as a means of deflecting Vanreir's strikes. Probably because we mostly joked about our finger getting cut off and didn't think too deeply about the implication of its description for combat, so kudos for making use of that in such an appropriate and dramatic manner. Even managing to insert a fishing reference!
Vanreir died as he lived, trying to pierce through his the obstacles in his path with all he's got. Only this time, his best wasn't enough.
The victory wasn't only bittersweet for Hunger, I didn't feel very good about the implications either, both for us and for his remaining family. Still, he's not the first to suffer defeat and die at our hands, nor will he be the last. He was exceptional in many ways, I'll admit, someone I would have liked to get to know better and help as a character, but everyone is a hero of their own story.
Sometimes the votes feel like a litany of 'how did you fuck up your day this time' options. Devastating complications, what can you do? Still, True Maiming isn't quite as awful as I thought if it can be healed in months and there are options for which Lingering Exhaustion isn't quite as critical.
Most of the options are very nice, but Unerring and Uttermost felt like they were the most dramatically appropriate, not to mention they start with the same letter! Librarian and Stranglehorn were neat too, so I was still uncertain after it became clear that Unerring would lose, but Priest's pictures pushed me over the fence.
[X] Lingering Exhaustion
[X] Forebear's Blade - Uttermost
- Location
- Canada
Note that Rihaku still described it as one of the three most powerful options in term of immediate power. That magic system is really powerful!
Also note that, though we don't have much intelligence +s right now, it would boost any future intelligence +s by 50%.
Dark Abstraction
Infrequent Participant
- Location
- United States
[X] True Maiming
[X] Hunger - Stranglethorn
Switching to these since it looks like Kinslayer is getting left behind and Maiming does seem now to be the most manageable complication; plus, it works well enough in conjunction with Stranglethorn; since that doubles the value of CON, and Maiming reduces it by 10%, it means we're still getting a 90% boost which is nothing to turn up your nose at.
And to continue to add value to my vote in addition to what arguments and discussion I've involved myself in, and stack up Arete for the stockpile, here is the latest iteration of my Gisena commission!
(Tremendous credit to @Microwave MKII, of course)
[X] Hunger - Stranglethorn
Switching to these since it looks like Kinslayer is getting left behind and Maiming does seem now to be the most manageable complication; plus, it works well enough in conjunction with Stranglethorn; since that doubles the value of CON, and Maiming reduces it by 10%, it means we're still getting a 90% boost which is nothing to turn up your nose at.
And to continue to add value to my vote in addition to what arguments and discussion I've involved myself in, and stack up Arete for the stockpile, here is the latest iteration of my Gisena commission!
(Tremendous credit to @Microwave MKII, of course)
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Maragas
Nothing to see here.
- Location
- Tree House
Uttermost is good, I prefer it to Inheritance - the Librarian but I prefer Stranglethorn over it. I really don't like it's downsides.
We are permanently reducing the value of 4 different stats +s, each more important Agility, by 30%
We will always be less Lucky, less Protected, less Wise and less Charismatic!
It doesn't reduce our base stats but the thing is, +s will make 99.9% of our stats later in the quest.
I will still vote for it if the Librarian is winning but that's beside the point
Forget the fact that we cannot mitigate one of our Curses permenantly, for the rest of our existance! Forget the fact that we are sacrificing one of our powerful forms, Health Bar and damage overflow counter.
We are permanently reducing the value of 4 different stats +s, each more important Agility, by 30%
We will always be less Lucky, less Protected, less Wise and less Charismatic!
It doesn't reduce our base stats but the thing is, +s will make 99.9% of our stats later in the quest.
I will still vote for it if the Librarian is winning but that's beside the point
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Why do you dislike the Librarian so much? It's access to, among other things, instant short-range teleportation and various other tricks.I will still vote for it if the Librarian is winning but that's beside the point
This fight would have been much easier if we could have teleported inside his reach and stabbed him through.
We only saw a bare fraction of his power and even up against a perfect counter he was winning until Gisena pulled an attack that knocked her out to do.
Also, can the 3 people that have picked Inheritor without a subpick please make said subpick?
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LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
Spend quality time with Gisena.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
maybe we can go fishing again and have a nice picnic if we survive the attempt ^_^
Maragas
Nothing to see here.
- Location
- Tree House
Three reason, first I don't like the mental contamination. I would vote for Inheritance-Unerring as our personalities are pretty similar and he is a good guy. But the Librarian? No way.
Second, I am not in the mood of magic that the Librarian gives. I like the path Hunger is walking and goddamn it we will keep going.
Third and speaking of themes, I feel like Uttermost, Stranglethorn and Inheritance-Unerring is much more thematically fitting for Hunger.
Plus in my priority list I have;
2-Ffffffffuck stinki maeg bilds (Muscle-Wizardy focused builds with Progression)
Let's see if I can get another one out before the vote lock. My reactions are pretty small comparatively, but goddamn I am just bad at being all that verbose lol. Well, a trickle of arete is a trickle of arete regardless.
Good thing we decided to buff her immediately after. Although I regret that we didn't pick Grand Nullification for that 20% Apocryphal mutigation, her current picks made her an incredibly competent party member.
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Although that just might be Versch'd tendency to attract astral beasts and Apocryphal curse acting together in concert to fuck us over. Maybe. Just a little chance of that.
Seriously tho, we passed actual small villages and population points on the way to the temple, full of people who were not particularly badass. It absolutely could not be all that dangerous for most people all the time.
And we could have met Amiable Brutes or Fairbright instead! I feel intense regret at not being more active at the relevant choice point, and thinking that Caravan might be a good choice. We didn't even exploit them for respawning monsters, bleh. Our Utility Monster/Beast of Reason game is weeeeaaaak.
Well, maybe having some healing in absence of Hunger would be good for Letrz, no? Oh well, whatever. No risk of side-effects anyway. Pity these guys didn't have anything more valuable than that. Temporary buff tonics, ironskin elixirs, etecetera; where is your stock variety, merchants?
I am saying that these guys sound like idiots, but I am not really feeling like we took advantage of them or anything. Quite opposite, actually.
...But Moon Civ is simply not that sort of civ to actually care, I suppose. Even if it was a valid plan of actual with some potential tangible result, throwing people under the wheels is far more their style.
...Oh well. From Vanreir's perspective, it sounds like it is pretty hard to hide being Fairbright scion. They sound kind of like a bloodline of Solars.
Anyway, Merchants once again disappoint as a source of information and loot. Although I think that they are genuinely not very well informed, we do know that they are cooperating with the temple and are interested in its long-term wellbeing as a system that attracts adventurers for them to prey upon; I wonder if they couldn't have scrounged at least something helpful if they really wanted. Oh well.
Also, another - first in-universe confirmed, even - mention of Dreadbeast being in several places at once. I wondered if Moon civ in general is predisposed to time-space twisting magic, but with their primary art being Soul Evocation... Archer dude twisted space, yeah, but every other magic so far been something else entirely. Urgh. And if this is done through the effort of some inner or middle resident, why bother twisting space for such a comparatively weak creature?
Alas, we are forced to continue struggling against a great enemy at a staggering pace. At least it does actually pay some dividents.
This update felt pretty short, comparatively. A real pity we did not decide to interact with some of the more interesting characters back then, but such is life. Alas.
I wonder what is the proper name of the Moon Temple; how the inhabitants proper call their realm. I suspect hearing it would be illuminating. Alas, most of our conversations happen on the edge of the sword. At this point I wonder if Forebear's blade could offer us some sort of a social damage ability. Just cut throught pointless debate.
With Temple gradually wising up to the Hunger's hijinks, moments to enjoy the calm observation of the picturesque landscapes and pastoral environment are going to be getting progressively rarer. Well, in exchange we are getting some change of scenery, and once we get into innermost Temple, things will change further still. I kind of expect great things from the apparently-industrial-like innermost temple; hopefully we'll get to bring down a skyscraper or three as a collateral damage in a highly kinetic fight with some badass enemy.
Gisena is a companion granted to us by Accursed, capable of being useful to us at least in the medium term. Even without any outside help, she figured out her sorcerous breakthrough not too later after the Temple and Hunger started out scaling her, which is honestly incredibly remarkable... I hope we'll get an opportunity to give her more magic systems; she'll be amazing at everything forever.
Good thing we decided to buff her immediately after. Although I regret that we didn't pick Grand Nullification for that 20% Apocryphal mutigation, her current picks made her an incredibly competent party member.
The carriers of the ever-battlefield. The temple attracts would-be-heroes like flies, and people like this follow to pick on the corpses. There is some sort of an agreement between Encampment and The Temple, and so these people are not sincerely interested in ending the grinding machine that chewed up countless lives already. Well, perhaps such is life in the Voyaging Realm. Many probably don't have much of a choice. The place feels like a deathworld...
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Although that just might be Versch'd tendency to attract astral beasts and Apocryphal curse acting together in concert to fuck us over. Maybe. Just a little chance of that.
Seriously tho, we passed actual small villages and population points on the way to the temple, full of people who were not particularly badass. It absolutely could not be all that dangerous for most people all the time.
I wonder if the wound been dealt by the occupants of the temple or the intruders. I kind of suspect the latter, considering how stringent their rules can be from the hints we gathered; probably tried to reach beyond their grasp in some sort, perhaps haggle for advantage, or just insulted someone and boom, bam, a Ranked Outrider or even Inner City Noble decides to cut it him a little bit shorter.
With language like this, I really can see this sort of stuff happening. This might be some sort of a masquerading routine to fool the customers, but I do kind of think that maybe they are just genuinely kind of lame assholes.
And we could have met Amiable Brutes or Fairbright instead! I feel intense regret at not being more active at the relevant choice point, and thinking that Caravan might be a good choice. We didn't even exploit them for respawning monsters, bleh. Our Utility Monster/Beast of Reason game is weeeeaaaak.
I got no humorous remark here. Poor Hunger, having to deal with this nonsense. Damn pity that Letrizia is unconscious, she would've danced circles around those fools.
Aaand right after we picked up Bloodmight. This might have been the least synergetic choice out of those available.
Yeah, I do think that these guys are at least somewhat sincerely stupid.
Well, maybe having some healing in absence of Hunger would be good for Letrz, no? Oh well, whatever. No risk of side-effects anyway. Pity these guys didn't have anything more valuable than that. Temporary buff tonics, ironskin elixirs, etecetera; where is your stock variety, merchants?
I do suspect that his missing hand might have to do something with him being kind of stupid, though. The play at formal relationship is also pretty weak after all that spaghetti nonsense that spilled out of their pockets; they sure are lucky that Hunger's social game is only moderately superhuman instead of being cutting-edge of Solar-like Charisma.
I'd say "at least fishing was good for something!" except no, information was pretty shitty and we exchanged a valuable material that could have bought us companions or valuable items in exchange for basically nothing.
I am saying that these guys sound like idiots, but I am not really feeling like we took advantage of them or anything. Quite opposite, actually.
I wonder why Hunger didn't like that. Instinctive dislike of Feudal terminology? Immediate antipathy toward these people leading to him seeking any opportunity to verbally strike at them in spite of himself? Seeing himself as undeserving of such tittle, despite actually being, IIRC, a City Lord of some realm before attempts at playing political game fucked him up?
Information trickles down as well as wealth and prosperity in the Moon Temple; poorly. Granted, I too, wouldn't want people like this knowing anything about my defenses and such - but surely some propaganda and attempt to dissuade the incoming adventurers from throwing their lives away could've been made?
...But Moon Civ is simply not that sort of civ to actually care, I suppose. Even if it was a valid plan of actual with some potential tangible result, throwing people under the wheels is far more their style.
Such licking, very much ass, wow. Considering how Middle Temple almost killed us, I'd say that these two are in for some very unpleasant times if we ever meet them again, which we actually might. With Hunger and his party as strong as they are, problems that doom of tyrant currently gives are likely negligible. We could snap and rant at people who can deal zero damage to us as much as we'd like. What are they going to do? Bleed on us? Call us names?
Information like this is valuable to somebody. I wonder how the Inner Temple was informed about Fairbright; did someone get away from a fight with her, or did she announce herself to a merchant like this?..
...Oh well. From Vanreir's perspective, it sounds like it is pretty hard to hide being Fairbright scion. They sound kind of like a bloodline of Solars.
It is a pity that the adventuring party seems to fail to penetrate this far. Cooperation and synergies could have carried Fairbright and Robobro far, but they elected simply to proceed solo on their own. We kind of failed our common sense check not seeking out allies when they would've been very valuable, but so did pretty much every other adventurer we encounter... So whatever I guess.
Anyway, Merchants once again disappoint as a source of information and loot. Although I think that they are genuinely not very well informed, we do know that they are cooperating with the temple and are interested in its long-term wellbeing as a system that attracts adventurers for them to prey upon; I wonder if they couldn't have scrounged at least something helpful if they really wanted. Oh well.
Intimidating silent stare is one of the best skills Hunger acquired in his life-long struggle against the Tyrant. Pity it does not deal damage, unlike Hector's. Well, we'll have something eventually. Pressure is already sort of starting to get there.
Also, another - first in-universe confirmed, even - mention of Dreadbeast being in several places at once. I wondered if Moon civ in general is predisposed to time-space twisting magic, but with their primary art being Soul Evocation... Archer dude twisted space, yeah, but every other magic so far been something else entirely. Urgh. And if this is done through the effort of some inner or middle resident, why bother twisting space for such a comparatively weak creature?
If only Ber wasn't breathing down our neck. If only Apocryphal curse wasn't such a pain in the ass. If only Letrizia's retrival wasn't time sensitive. If only.
Alas, we are forced to continue struggling against a great enemy at a staggering pace. At least it does actually pay some dividents.
This update felt pretty short, comparatively. A real pity we did not decide to interact with some of the more interesting characters back then, but such is life. Alas.
Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
- Location
- USA
Magus spells:
-Lightning
-Defensive spirits
-Steely mindfuck fog
-Shield
-Teleportation
-Invisibility
-Pressure
-Soul attack word
-Thresher arms
-Golem
-Halo-physical buff? (Maybe not included, if it's related to the linear halo)
-Whatever the one and a half spells that would've beaten us are
It's hard to judge the strength of some of these, since Gisena made lots of them just go away, but even what we saw is some pretty good variety. And these are just what he used in combat.
Not gonna complain at all if it wins.
-Lightning
-Defensive spirits
-Steely mindfuck fog
-Shield
-Teleportation
-Invisibility
-Pressure
-Soul attack word
-Thresher arms
-Golem
-Halo-physical buff? (Maybe not included, if it's related to the linear halo)
-Whatever the one and a half spells that would've beaten us are
It's hard to judge the strength of some of these, since Gisena made lots of them just go away, but even what we saw is some pretty good variety. And these are just what he used in combat.
Not gonna complain at all if it wins.
[X] Lingering Exhaustion
[X] Forebear's Blade - Uttermost (4 picks)
I'm fine with basically any of the 4 pick options. So with Kinslayer lagging I'll go with this, some of the expansions about how it works also hyped me on it more and make dislike the downsides less. Plus the fact that it has nearly full effectiveness for alpha strikes immediately even exhausted is pretty damn good.
[X] Forebear's Blade - Uttermost (4 picks)
I'm fine with basically any of the 4 pick options. So with Kinslayer lagging I'll go with this, some of the expansions about how it works also hyped me on it more and make dislike the downsides less. Plus the fact that it has nearly full effectiveness for alpha strikes immediately even exhausted is pretty damn good.
FEAST
The changes had been incremental at first. It had all begun the day he took up the poll - the day he found that accursed (though not Accursed) bottle. Delving deep into the realm of the False Moon, inevitably his Progression bought him unparalleled power. First in blood, then in Blade. Above all though, Hunger had progressed in Focus.
Hunger, who once stood at the pinnacle of humanity, had slowly begun to erode that portion of himself. The Tyrant, of course, still gleamed in the back of his mind. Surrounding him - a multitude of souls soaked in potential. But above all of them stood The Ruling Ring For at the temples end, it had been reforged. In the sublime light of it's dying brother, Hunger's ring claimed supremacy.
It consumed voraciously of it's brother: the Moon was snuffed out by the all consuming desire ofHunger The Ruling Ring. Drawing back briefly Hunger sensed something apart from himself in the void. In the place where he had burned himself away, another presence was taking residence. Not the dread lord, the Tyrant of his past come to haunt him. Not the souls of the defeated within the temple, nor even one of the multitudes that came before.
Within him stirred an Age. It was Hunger, yes, but he had underestimated that concept entirely. Perhaps had he been whole, it would have been like any other ring. A vessel of unparalleled power, fit to adorn even a Cursebearer. A monument to the Accursed's power, proof that even a fraction of his favor was worth the servitude of ten trillion lifetimes. But in such a familiar place - in a hole as black, and dark, and deep, as the one that inhabited Hunger, the ring was able to take on a life of its own.
At once he realized his mistake. Such unparalleled focus, as to consume that which cannot be consumed - coupled with the power of the Accurseds' progression, and finally driven by an age, the true manifestation of Hunger.
Too late to take off the ring - for he was it. Too late to turn from his path - for once he had set upon it he could never again be swayed. Too late for second thoughts, as the age inside him hungered, and he could do naught but feed it.
Within moments of the Ruling Ring awakening the Decimation began to increase by five, then twenty-five, and then one hundred and twenty-five percent. At six hundred percent the Decimators Affliction began to consume the Temple. The earth became bereft of life, the very pollen in the air snuffed out. Walls vanished, carried as dust upon the wind before they could even crash upon the ground: ground that beganmelting being consumed in a great sphere encompassing Hunger.
Even as he cried out, the world around him became a black zone - barren of all things. Six thousand percent. Even Further Beyond.
As the world was consumed, he, and in turn the Age only grew in power. He floated in nothingness - his only focus on his Hunger. The only meaning he had was in consumption. He had no choice once his course was set - and from it he could never be swayed.
When at last "life" appeared before him, it was in the form of mighty Armaments. Not the withered shell, the husk of a life form that Versch encapsulated. These were unrepentant monsters - Astral made manifest and the Apex predators in a realm of their own. Not the power of ten - Nor even one hundred of these Armaments could have made the assault though.
For this, the Human Sphere had rallied one thousand Armaments - As they warped into the black zone he was ensorceled in, Hunger Immediately grew in strength - threatening to grow Even Further Beyond the capabilities of even this Apex of civilization. But It was not enough, This time his resolve failed him - or perhaps - freed him.
The combined Astral projections of so many greater beings engorged even an Age. The Ruling Ring and it's wielder were drowned in a torrent of unceasing and unrelenting Astral. Infinite and unrepentant were embodiment of what Hunger represented, but astral was just as unruly a force. Though utterly Exhausted and depleted of Rank, at last the drain upon their souls grew slower, and yet slower, until finally it did cease.
The ring itself, of course, was not forgotten here. With nothing but the Idea of possessing the ring, it had returned to the Accursed. Too powerful to leave alone, yet too tempting not to offer again.
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Thanks for reading, even though it was a bad result this time, I'm still hopeful we can perform better in our actual run if we get super focused!
The changes had been incremental at first. It had all begun the day he took up the poll - the day he found that accursed (though not Accursed) bottle. Delving deep into the realm of the False Moon, inevitably his Progression bought him unparalleled power. First in blood, then in Blade. Above all though, Hunger had progressed in Focus.
Hunger, who once stood at the pinnacle of humanity, had slowly begun to erode that portion of himself. The Tyrant, of course, still gleamed in the back of his mind. Surrounding him - a multitude of souls soaked in potential. But above all of them stood The Ruling Ring For at the temples end, it had been reforged. In the sublime light of it's dying brother, Hunger's ring claimed supremacy.
It consumed voraciously of it's brother: the Moon was snuffed out by the all consuming desire of
Within him stirred an Age. It was Hunger, yes, but he had underestimated that concept entirely. Perhaps had he been whole, it would have been like any other ring. A vessel of unparalleled power, fit to adorn even a Cursebearer. A monument to the Accursed's power, proof that even a fraction of his favor was worth the servitude of ten trillion lifetimes. But in such a familiar place - in a hole as black, and dark, and deep, as the one that inhabited Hunger, the ring was able to take on a life of its own.
At once he realized his mistake. Such unparalleled focus, as to consume that which cannot be consumed - coupled with the power of the Accurseds' progression, and finally driven by an age, the true manifestation of Hunger.
Too late to take off the ring - for he was it. Too late to turn from his path - for once he had set upon it he could never again be swayed. Too late for second thoughts, as the age inside him hungered, and he could do naught but feed it.
Within moments of the Ruling Ring awakening the Decimation began to increase by five, then twenty-five, and then one hundred and twenty-five percent. At six hundred percent the Decimators Affliction began to consume the Temple. The earth became bereft of life, the very pollen in the air snuffed out. Walls vanished, carried as dust upon the wind before they could even crash upon the ground: ground that began
Even as he cried out, the world around him became a black zone - barren of all things. Six thousand percent. Even Further Beyond.
As the world was consumed, he, and in turn the Age only grew in power. He floated in nothingness - his only focus on his Hunger. The only meaning he had was in consumption. He had no choice once his course was set - and from it he could never be swayed.
When at last "life" appeared before him, it was in the form of mighty Armaments. Not the withered shell, the husk of a life form that Versch encapsulated. These were unrepentant monsters - Astral made manifest and the Apex predators in a realm of their own. Not the power of ten - Nor even one hundred of these Armaments could have made the assault though.
For this, the Human Sphere had rallied one thousand Armaments - As they warped into the black zone he was ensorceled in, Hunger Immediately grew in strength - threatening to grow Even Further Beyond the capabilities of even this Apex of civilization. But It was not enough, This time his resolve failed him - or perhaps - freed him.
The combined Astral projections of so many greater beings engorged even an Age. The Ruling Ring and it's wielder were drowned in a torrent of unceasing and unrelenting Astral. Infinite and unrepentant were embodiment of what Hunger represented, but astral was just as unruly a force. Though utterly Exhausted and depleted of Rank, at last the drain upon their souls grew slower, and yet slower, until finally it did cease.
The ring itself, of course, was not forgotten here. With nothing but the Idea of possessing the ring, it had returned to the Accursed. Too powerful to leave alone, yet too tempting not to offer again.
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Thanks for reading, even though it was a bad result this time, I'm still hopeful we can perform better in our actual run if we get super focused!
- Location
- The savanna.
[X] Lingering Exhaustion
[X] Forebear's Blade - Uttermost (4 picks)
Cool, we don't have to sac the liver to keep fighting this way, can finally start fixing Hunger's shit.
[X] Forebear's Blade - Uttermost (4 picks)
Cool, we don't have to sac the liver to keep fighting this way, can finally start fixing Hunger's shit.
ImperatorV
The Laughing One
- Location
- The Voyaging Realm
Hey guys, guess what? This is my 1000th post on SV! Random trivia with no bearing at all on discussion, but I like to think it means something.
Anyway, I'd like to shill Librarian again, but I've written a ton of paragraphs on the subject already. There's not really anything else to say. Instead I'll just link to my longest previous arguments. Also this one which is somewhat a repeat of earlier points. In case anyone forgot or understandably didn't read all 25 pages of discussion we created since last update.
Is this lazy of me? Yes. I'm kinda tired and haven't thought of any new things to say though.
Anyway, I'd like to shill Librarian again, but I've written a ton of paragraphs on the subject already. There's not really anything else to say. Instead I'll just link to my longest previous arguments. Also this one which is somewhat a repeat of earlier points. In case anyone forgot or understandably didn't read all 25 pages of discussion we created since last update.
Is this lazy of me? Yes. I'm kinda tired and haven't thought of any new things to say though.
LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
We couldn't hit with it because without Uttermost it needs a windup and prep because it's our ultimate. With Uttermost every swing of our blade becomes a fell handed strike so it's much easier to use.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Irrelevant. We failed to hit him at all until the final blow.
Every blow being powerful only matters if you can actually land a blow. Which we couldn't.