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I support this tactic.
On one hand fair, on the other hand Will ensures its completion and effect, not how fast he can get it off.
Grappling is kinda difficult when you only have one hand.
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Rihaku
The Internet
It was an epic duel, don't you see how damaged Vanreir is? Most enemies would fall as soon as they entered the deadly radius of his blade!
Hm...
Withdrawal has good survival odds! Relatively speaking.
Well, there's nothing stopping him from simply continuing to thrust...
That's rather optimistic!
That would be bad for you, indeed.
Well, he's not Seralize. Still, the nature of a thrust can be to overextend, especially if it's intended to be the killing blow...
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I didn't mean instantly.
Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
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- USA
Grapple through. Even if it cannot be grappled.
We do have the Evening Sky, though.
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Worth noting, this is especially important if we're working with R Type #1. If he over commits on stabbing one of us, the other can absolutely punish him for it while his blade is locked up.
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Thrusting blows are not so easy to repeat, ya know. Particularly at the speed a fight like this would take place.
ImperatorV
The Laughing One
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I support this. The guy got debuffed by having his morning routine interrupted, I feel like he has some sort of conceptual vulnerability to disorder. Even if that's not the case, being thrown off his game could be deadly for him. You can adjust for an injury, but having to constantly change that adjustment is much harder to deal with...
LordOfMurder
Bhaal
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- Australia
I'm not sure we SORD GUD enough to pull off a convincing Forebear impression. This guy seems to think pretty linearly though so maybe he'd just believe us!
Rihaku
The Internet
If only you had more than one hand!
Check the "Hunger's preliminary observations" section...
Hm... it just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
There's more than one type of thrust! What's the most frequent probing attack of a boxer?
This is way too many coincidences, we've long since passed into the territory of enemy action. Preliminary tactical thoughts:
Vanreir's power is the Unerring Blade of the Amarlt, their legacy briefly returned by some ridiculous combo platter of Soul Evocation bullshit that comes at ruinous cost. He relies on his connection to his sister and his father's soul. Blood ties, in other words. We should attempt to disrupt those with the Ring. He's also unfamiliar with his wounds, but Hunger's adjusted to lacking depth perception/coped with the injuries Vanreir just suffered for years. His Thrusts don't miss, but every attack needs to be aimed, and his aim is impaired. Maybe we can bait him into overcommitting or whittle him down with blade-winds at range? Damaging that fancy sword over time ought to be considered as well, imitate Uryu vs. Ichimaru, shatter it with a Fell-Handed Stroke.
Vanreir's power is the Unerring Blade of the Amarlt, their legacy briefly returned by some ridiculous combo platter of Soul Evocation bullshit that comes at ruinous cost. He relies on his connection to his sister and his father's soul. Blood ties, in other words. We should attempt to disrupt those with the Ring. He's also unfamiliar with his wounds, but Hunger's adjusted to lacking depth perception/coped with the injuries Vanreir just suffered for years. His Thrusts don't miss, but every attack needs to be aimed, and his aim is impaired. Maybe we can bait him into overcommitting or whittle him down with blade-winds at range? Damaging that fancy sword over time ought to be considered as well, imitate Uryu vs. Ichimaru, shatter it with a Fell-Handed Stroke.
I support these tactics.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
I support this tactic!
[X] R-Type #1
[X] Preparation: Dialogue
[X] Preparation: Resolve
I say for diplomacy we can try just letting him.. attack us, what kind of enemy doesn't strike back?
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I cry foul! A probing attack is by definition not all-in!
If his ability actually behaves as described then he would have to do a full riposte to pull it off.
Rihaku
The Internet
Current vote count?
Perhaps the Forebear was simply that popular!
You did get Fall of Night and its access to twisting blade-winds for cheap...
You'd need to provide some evidence, at the very least!
His father's soul creates instability in his own whenever they're forced out of simple, linear actions... this is most prominent during the morning, however...
It's theoretically possible to get it over 60%, yes. Would be quite hard though, and that's including outcomes like "he simply lets you go." You would still get some picks for that, of course, but not the full amount. Still, it's certainly better than a devastating Condition!
Perhaps the Forebear was simply that popular!
You did get Fall of Night and its access to twisting blade-winds for cheap...
You'd need to provide some evidence, at the very least!
His father's soul creates instability in his own whenever they're forced out of simple, linear actions... this is most prominent during the morning, however...
It's theoretically possible to get it over 60%, yes. Would be quite hard though, and that's including outcomes like "he simply lets you go." You would still get some picks for that, of course, but not the full amount. Still, it's certainly better than a devastating Condition!
Maragas
Nothing to see here.
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- Tree House
Oh boy.
Fucking hitscan. You followed me from my FPS games to here too!
Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
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- USA
Assuming his thrust isn't absurdly ridiculously faster than we are (a shaky assumption, tbh), range actually might be an answer to him, especially with a partner. He'd have to thrust towards a #1, stay committed to it for the time the blade takes to travel, and be unable to reposition when #2 attacks.
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Range is not a factor. His attacks are instant.
Rihaku
The Internet
Wholehearted commitment doesn't meant all-in. You can wholeheartedly commit to folding, or to betting no more than 10% of your stack, etc...
The convenient kind? The kind that runs away? Speaking of which, you guys should consider running away. No shame in re-rolling and hoping not to hit an overwhelmingly powerful enemy. Plus, it'd be an interesting subversion of tropes narratively!
Hm, would that do it... perhaps if it were his sister, but how?!
Unerring is cheat.
Your ally should be able to flank him if he's thrusting towards you, though whether they're fast enough to really capitalize depends on a number of factors including their own identity. On the other hand, you do have an attack that travels at 7x normal speed, if you can get the windup off...
Maragas
Nothing to see here.
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- Tree House
Will they have a sob backstory and little sisters too? If we can reroll to get a more straight fight I would definitely think about it.
Lealope
Not yet invincible
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I was thinking about adding some empty griping about how Zweihander would make this pretty easy since we could just go Bladelock -> Forebear Punch but it felt kinda pointless. That lack of arms is a real bummer.
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Sufficiently erratic vertical movement through Fall of Night's weight manipulation might be another answer to his abilities, in away that's less predictable than simple strafing. Take the fight from 2D to 3D and thrusting ends up covering vastly less proportional area and the time it would take to reorient would be much greater since he'd have to flip around in mid air. From there, we could hit him with a blade-wind empowered Thousand Cuts, which might be the end if he's already seriously wounded.
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Fair enough! I think my salt has less to do with the fact that she died, and more to do with the fact that we didn't see the epic showdow. Probably was something over in an instant, but still!
This makes me think that perhaps we are fated to meet individuals akin to Hunger. All of them being individuals that have the potential to perhaps, one day, become the forebearer.
I was going to change my vote, but...i decided against it. The only way that i can see us actually winning is by one good enough blow. One thousand strikes, or one strike that matters. The difference is: He will be will made manifest, yes, but will that be enough to survive the fell-handed strike that follows?
When he thursts, he will be commited towards it's strike: The way i see Hunger winning is if he does the same.
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I have never in my life heard of wholehearted commitment used that way when describing an attack, so I'll have to take your word for it.