Out of Curiosity @Rihaku is Seram still kicking about? He survived that first world butttt I'm assuming a bit of time has eclipsed. Just wondering if he doing ok still :V
 
Given that No Quarter is winning and nobody's expressed any interest in the Balance route, my vote is up for sale for people invested in the outcome for a marker for me to call in with 1 veto. Those with a marker (@runeblue360 , @Savonarola ) may claim in exchange for the marker I owe them being fulfilled. Marker invocation in future votes is on a first come first serve basis.

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You might as well vote for what you slightly prefer, not like you'll lose anything and can always change it if called.

'Kay, might want to keep the tactics straightforward, or at least frontload anything complicated, because I'm not sure how well Hunger can follow anything that isn't directly violent. Combining the fights as @Wolfy says might be too much for his mental state, even though I agree that the voidspawn would probably not avoid fighting him.

He can fight intelligently, though only tactics with some degree of support will be used.

Out of Curiosity @Rihaku is Seram still kicking about? He survived that first world butttt I'm assuming a bit of time has eclipsed. Just wondering if he doing ok still :V

You have no way of knowing! Perhaps someday you might.
 
There's such a thing as being overly cautious. I think the reward for beating him would be more valuable than the equivalent of less than 0.25 BP. Apocryphal Curse mean truly riskeless powerups are very rare, especially considering we took Hunger. Fightinh worthy opponents is how we progress.

It's better to take the risk now that we are well rested and there's literally no other people around. I don't think this guy's death would have far reaching repercussions either.

And really, you guys were so worried earlier about mental contamination, why not give Hunger some peace of mind and bring himself some emotional resolution for his fate?
 
What exactly prevents us from sparing the pirates for now to focus on the emerging monsters, then slaying them when parlay turns south? Besides common decency I suppose, but that is clearly far below a direct command of the accursed in weight.
 
There's such a thing as being overly cautious. I think the reward for beating him would be more valuable than the equivalent of less than 0.25 BP. Apocryphal Curse mean truly riskeless powerups are very rare, especially considering we took Hunger.
I wasn't really considering that kind of risk at all, just whether fighting this convenient Tyrant stand-in right as we both need progression and want emotional resolution is a good thing or not.

Super suspicious, is all I'm saying. With years of being manipulated by the Hidden Masters, do we want to get into the habit of chasing questionable incentives, knowing full-well we won't be able to tell if they're ultimately self-defeating or not?
 
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Hmm, if he's slower than us maybe we want to keep the distance for now. Stay out of his engagement range and pick off the rest of his crew in front of him. They're probably too weak for Hunger to give and gains from killing them but it'll remove a distraction for us and might put him on tilt and have him show an opening we could take advantage of. While also giving us more clues about what his artifacts do and some time to see if we can appropriate any more useful battle items the crew might go for that might be on the ship before committing.
 
I wasn't really considering that kind of risk at all, just whether fighting this convenient Tyrant stand-in right as we both need progression and want emotional resolution is a good thing or not.

Super suspicious, is all I'm saying. With years of being manipulated by the Hidden Masters, do we want to get into the habit of chasing questionable incentives, knowing full-well we won't be able to tell if they're ultimately self-defeating or not?
I think this is undue paranoia. Given the implied power of the hidden masters, they wouldn't need to resort to some sort of long-term conditioning like this to kill us right now.

The Apocryphal Curse will land us in this kind of situation whether we want to or not. Since it has imperfect scaling, power is the best safeguard against it. And again, this is basically as isolated a situation as it can be. If we expect chicanery even here, we will never take any risk, even when it might be necessary.
 
[X] No Quarter
[X] Knowledge


I'm guessing the pirates will run off after we close the rift if we choose Prudence, so let's fight them now. Meta gaming wise, risk reward leans towards No Quarter - favourable matchup, gains first hand knowledge of equivalent opponents, our build rewards fighting to skill up. In character rationalisation is a bit harder, I mean morally, punishing pirating is ok, but taking the fight now is actually not that rational, but it can work.

The need for II choice efficiency is overwhelming. I still think knowledge of curses aren't that important yet, so I guess social options it is. No Power as risky option is already taken with No quarter.
 
We will not have this problem as "tactic"if we just choose punch wizard.:mad:

Get through every social interaction with superior power is always a right choice,safer too.
 
[X] No Quarter
[X] Unburdening


i haven't seen a rihaku quest since ishida punched his dad

Assuming we win the fight, this gives a cool action scene and then some purple prose about the curses. it'll be just like old times
 
We will not have this problem as "tactic"if we just choose punch wizard.:mad:

Get through every social interaction with superior power is always a right choice,safer too.
punch wizards still need combat tactics just as much as swordsmen do; the Apocryphal Curse ensures we'd eventually find worthy opponents like this.
 
[X] No Quarter
[X] Power

Having thought about it, yeah. It's robo time. I'm doubtful she's got the authority or desire to allow us the kind of access we can have right now to the equivalent of their countries strategic deterrence no matter what kind of impression we make on her once she's in contact with her superiors. So in addition to the power gains, the opportunity to get this kind of first hand data is worth it.
 
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[X] No Quarter
[X] Unburdening


I suppose it's possible that the curse manipulated this guy and he's 'innocent', but my sympathy is limited. If we were the weaker party rather than the stronger I seriously doubt he'd show us any mercy. And they attacked without warning, without even bothering to positively identify their target.

I suspect that even if we win this won't be the last we hear of him; he may be saying the truth about a mistaken identity in which case whoever or whatever he mistook us for is still out there, and given our curse they'll probably be hostile as well.

Unburdening because we need to deal with the curse sooner rather than later. I don't want to doom the world.
 
[X] No Quarter
[X] Unburdening


Go go Gisena power! Double down on that curse mitigation, get the hell out of here curses! But yeah I don't trust the random guy wearing evil darkness armour that attacked us out of nowhere and when it went badly was all "sorry bro my mistake".
 
I'd like to point out that we don't actually know what a black flag means in here. We could well have run into the Rihakuverse equivalent to a Whaling party with broken spyglasses.


I'd like to call out the Emirate of Afghanistan, which used a Solid Black Flag from 1880 to 1901.
 
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Hey guys, don't forget that the consolidation vote is important too and even more open to arguments!

Current vote count?

What exactly prevents us from sparing the pirates for now to focus on the emerging monsters, then slaying them when parlay turns south? Besides common decency I suppose, but that is clearly far below a direct command of the accursed in weight.

Speed and range. Their ship is quite fast in an area where the Armament is slow and you don't know whether your attacks have slowed it at all.

I wasn't really considering that kind of risk at all, just whether fighting this convenient Tyrant stand-in right as we both need progression and want emotional resolution is a good thing or not.

It's definitely a substantial coincidence or Apocryphal Curse proc. The time you spend here could well see either you or Gisena get injured, which would set you back the rest of your trip, complicate matters further down the line, etc.

Hmm, if he's slower than us maybe we want to keep the distance for now. Stay out of his engagement range and pick off the rest of his crew in front of him. They're probably too weak for Hunger to give and gains from killing them but it'll remove a distraction for us and might put him on tilt and have him show an opening we could take advantage of. While also giving us more clues about what his artifacts do and some time to see if we can appropriate any more useful battle items the crew might go for that might be on the ship before committing.

A rather Tyrannical thing to do!

Unburdening because we need to deal with the curse sooner rather than later. I don't want to doom the world.

You won't be able to fully mitigate the Curse for long even with Unburdening; all it might do is reduce the Affliction somewhat more than talk to Gisena I, or offer some no doubt inconvenient and arduous route to alternative mitigation forms!

Okay one more I couldn't help myself I don't know why I even thought of this

Great! I like the video game-esque framing.
 
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