The SIN Lostbelt is basically a perfect world where everyone is happy and their lives are absolutely perfect under Qin Shi Huang.

On the other hand, mankind has stagnated to the point where everyone is stuck in the medieval China except for the higher up Emperor and nobility who hoarded all the knowledge advancement and high end techs. All arts and creativity are banned, along with Confucianism and other sort of pro-enlightenment ideals because it breeds 'disloyal thoughts' on the peasants.

It's a world where everyone is not allowed to suffer and everyone lives happily ever after. It's not as great as it looked on paper.
Each of the Lostbelts so far are also adaptations of western sci-fi dystopias. SIN is Equilibrium; the others include Logan's Run, the Matrix, and a bad end version of the I, Robot film.
In light of the information, I'm going to attempt a write-in

We're not in a lostbelt though guys? There's no tree of Fantasy around, there's no utopia going on. We still have police and crime and there's a holy grail war ongoing, holy grail wars don't happen in lostbelts.

I'm pretty sure we're not even in a singularity considering that we have Shirou here, with Saber and Rin waiting for him back home. That doesn't match the Grand Order timeline at all.
 
We're not in a lostbelt though guys? There's no tree of Fantasy around, there's no utopia going on. We still have police and crime and there's a holy grail war ongoing, holy grail wars don't happen in lostbelts.

I'm pretty sure we're not even in a singularity considering that we have Shirou here, with Saber and Rin waiting for him back home. That doesn't match the Grand Order timeline at all.
No, but Hinako supported SIN Lostbelt because of that very question she's currenty asking right now. So, you know, kinda relevant info there.

I think I can go with @kinigget write-in there,

[X] I think that people have to want to be better before you can really help them. Otherwise they either end up resenting you or rejecting your help out of hand.
 
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[X] I think that people have to want to be better before you can really help them. Otherwise they either end up resenting you or rejecting your help out of hand.
 
Okay but this isn't a timeline where those are a thing that is happening?

Why worry about something that can't occur in this reality?
Are you sure it can't occur in this reality?

Because AnonymousRabbit's last quest was a gigantic 500k+ words that spanned for a long period of time. It wouldn't surprise me if this one can extend as far as Chaldea
 
Didnt Re:Incarnation break 1 million?

Anyway, even if Lostbelts don't actually happen, giving this girl a good answer is still important
 
That's still 280k.
Yeah, it's smaller. But still,
Relax. It'll be fine. We won't be involving Chaldea because Chaldea has no reason to bother this setting. You're just in one of the off-shoot world's in the Kaleidoscope where the Animusphere didn't succeed in creating Chaldea, Olga got turned into a Hobo, Shirou sort of got his good end, Risei had an adoptive son that wasn't a former Servant, and Hinako didn't get picked up by Marisbury.

The most you'll see of Chaldea is seeing them in Medb's memories. Or you can make it yourself.

And this is just the Medb Route of this Quest's three Rout- *Caladbolg'd*
 
Or you can make it yourself
Alright, new quest goal get!
Olga got turned into a Hobo
Seriously?

That girl has some F-- Luck. I mean, I don't think she ever got any break.

Even in other fanfics, she always got the short end of the stick. The better ones are where she got saved by some shenanigans post Fuyuki FGO but those are always left unfinished. There is one ongoing fic I still have hope in where Charlemagne entered Chaldea and managed to save her, but Olga ended up a loli as a result.
 
Relax. It'll be fine. We won't be involving Chaldea because Chaldea has no reason to bother this setting. You're just in one of the off-shoot world's in the Kaleidoscope where the Animusphere didn't succeed in creating Chaldea, Olga got turned into a Hobo, Shirou sort of got his good end, Risei had an adoptive son that wasn't a former Servant, and Hinako didn't get picked up by Marisbury.
Too bad about Zouken's new female meatsuit, though.
 
[X] You don't care, really. You just want to live quietly somewhere far from this nonsense. Maybe you'll buy a farm and raise some cows.
 
Too bad about Zouken's new female meatsuit, though.
Why? Since SF is a timeline that somehow has events play out exactly the same as SN, that means the Fuyuki Grail was dismantled already so Zouken is dead.

It might be that here he had to take to the field himself only to find the Grail dismantled and all his hopes and dreams dead and gone and him finally just accepting death.

[X] I think that people have to want to be better before you can really help them. Otherwise they either end up resenting you or rejecting your help out of hand.
 
Why? Since SF is a timeline that somehow has events play out exactly the same as SN, that means the Fuyuki Grail was dismantled already so Zouken is dead.

It might be that here he had to take to the field himself only to find the Grail dismantled and all his hopes and dreams dead and gone and him finally just accepting death.
"Shirou and Rin are engaged and Saber is still present" means the SN that played out was most likely UBW Good. "Sakura is saved" is not an event that happens in UBW Good. In the absence of any other data points, it's natural to assume that her life after the 5GW didn't turn out well. Shirou doesn't need an excuse to Shirou, but failing to even notice that Sakura was in so much danger is exactly the sort of thing that would drive him to do stupid shit save damsels like Hinako Shirou ever harder.

(Though I'm not personally a fan of vanilla Sakura on account of "she's too boring"...)
 
[X] I think that people have to want to be better before you can really help them. Otherwise they either end up resenting you or rejecting your help out of hand.

This is fine, I guess. Hinako/Yu Meiran really wasn't that involved with the actual Chaldea-Lostbelt dystopia argument-conflict all that much in SIN. She was just there for her hubby Xiang Yu, which is an entirely different set of issues. She literally hands QSH her blood and tells him that she just wants to be by Xiang Yu's side the entire time, and she's basically only fighting against Chaldea because Xiang Yu is. But since we're in some OG timeline and I'd have to dig through what I remember of SIN, I don't feel comfortable trying to craft a write-in for it...

do stupid shit save damsels like Hinako
Yeah uh, Hinako definitely falls in that category of "definitely not a helpless damsel" that Shirou often finds himself throwing himself in danger for anyways.

And this is just the Medb Route of this Quest's three Rout- *Caladbolg'd*
Olga Route is available only for 4.99$ Each update will be decided through Gacha where the currency costs 0.99$ apiece.
Nooooo, not the DLC routes. Stop mugging us, FGO does that enough thank you very kindly. ;_;
 
"Shirou and Rin are engaged and Saber is still present" means the SN that played out was most likely UBW Good. "Sakura is saved" is not an event that happens in UBW Good. In the absence of any other data points, it's natural to assume that her life after the 5GW didn't turn out well. Shirou doesn't need an excuse to Shirou, but failing to even notice that Sakura was in so much danger is exactly the sort of thing that would drive him to do stupid shit save damsels like Hinako Shirou ever harder.

(Though I'm not personally a fan of vanilla Sakura on account of "she's too boring"...)
Someone pointed out an issue with using rape for shock value that I found interesting:
Sure, Zouken is bad news bears, and he would be a sensible part of any story focused on tearing down the Grail so long as it's not a sequel to HF.

But all the hand-wringing of Sakura's fate after Fate and UBW never quite made sense to me. Zouken is done for in any scenario -- flat out dies in HF, gets blown away by the Tohsaka-Velvet tag team in the great dismantling kerfuffle or dies of old age. He's a non-factor.

She got a terrible, horrible deal, but she will pull through. She survived ten years of Zouken and Shinji's dickery. Another ten of just Zouken (as Shinji is dead in Fate and presumably less dickish in UBW) won't break her stride. So all of the dramatic gnashing of teeth and cries of "UNFAIR!" I hear from the Sakura contingent strike me as unnecessary at best. She is a strong character, as her fans like to point out, but these same fans seem to want a white knight to ride in on a noble steed to rescue her like the prototypical damsel in distress. It removes a lot of her own agency.

That's a problem I have with rape narratives in general. The subject matter calls for a lot of delicacy, and too often do I see people subscribing to this notion that all a survivor needs is a good man to cancel out the evil deeds of the bad man. The healing process is different for everyone, but I still find it unsettling to see how many people seem to think all you need is some good sex to get over a history of sexual abuse. Sakura coming to terms with who she is and what she has done and learning to accept herself even after Shirou has given her those sweet dickings is a much better way of handling the situation.

I really hope that's about as serious as I will ever get when discussing cartoon penii and vajayjay.
 
(I already had most of this post ready before refreshing)

Yeah uh, Hinako definitely falls in that category of "definitely not a helpless damsel" that Shirou often finds himself throwing himself in danger for anyways.
I didn't say helpless! Of course she's not helpless, but Shirou doesn't know that and we're still pretending that she is who and what she says she is.

Someone pointed out an issue with using rape for shock value that I found interesting:
I'm actually thinking more along the lines of Sodachi's situation in Owarimonogatari (after catching up with that series over the last few weeks). Rape has nothing to do with it, just the obliviousness to a supposedly close friend's ongoing issues.

Olga is the only DLC :V
a dozen expansion packs and $100 later
 
[X] I think that people have to want to be better before you can really help them. Otherwise they either end up resenting you or rejecting your help out of hand.
 
[X] I think that people have to want to be better before you can really help them. Otherwise they either end up resenting you or rejecting your help out of hand.
 
I'm actually thinking more along the lines of Sodachi's situation in Owarimonogatari (after catching up with that series over the last few weeks). Rape has nothing to do with it, just the obliviousness to a supposedly close friend's ongoing issues.
Ah yes, the issues said friend completely tries to hide from others.

There isn't anything "oblivious" when Sakura tried to hide absolutely everything she could.
 
[X] I think that people have to want to be better before you can really help them. Otherwise they either end up resenting you or rejecting your help out of hand.
 
Do keep in mind that even with bodysurfing, Zouken is basically at the limits of his soul's lifespan, and severe degradation of his spiritual and mental faculties can be observed.

I don't think he'd have lasted much longer than 10-20 years from the events of FSN, unless he crossed over to being a full on Dead Apostle, in which case he no longer needs meatsuits.
 
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