[X] Plan Rising Sun
[X]Burn them: You will grant your friends that small mercy. You will burn their bodies so that they may rest in peace.
[X] To the East, towards Ishi and the the boarder of the Land of Birds and the Land of Rain. It's the most direct route home, but Rain hate Konoha nin with a passion, and if they discover who you are... You'd rather not think about it.

[X]Sakumo
[X]Tsunade
[X]Orochimaru

North is Iwa, and they attacked the caravan once, meaning that we can't count on blending in. South is the desert, and we have no supplies. West is Zetsu. FUCK NO!
 
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[X] To the East, towards Ishi and the the boarder of the Land of Birds and the Land of Rain. It's the most direct route home, but Rain hate Konoha nin with a passion, and if they discover who you are... You'd rather not think about it.

[X]Sakumo
[X]Tsunade
[X]Orochimaru

North is Iwa, and they attacked the caravan once, meaning that we can't count on blending in. South is the desert, and we have no supplies. West is Zetsu. FUCK NO!
Plan format please. Also, you need to do something about the bodies.
 
[X] Plan Rising Sun

There's also the option of walking along the border between Rain and Wind. There's probably a trade route going along there, since it should avoid both the extreme rain and the extreme dryness of the desert.
That said, I'd also expect that all manner of people keep a close eye on both the road and the border.
 
[X] Plan Rising Sun
With the experience of a spy on our side, we should be able to fake being a caravan of children that escaped slavers, of the nasty sort. All the others need to do is look bedraggled and traumatized, which they either are already or can fake it, while we play spokesperson. Then we can hitch a ride to Fire.
 
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[X] Plan Tough choices and true friends
-[X]Leave them: You have no time to burn the bodies, you have to leave. And someone will see the smoke.
-[X]To the North, Towards Iwa and the Neutral Samurai Land of Iron it has a Konoha Embassy there, where you can relay the fact you are alive. Unfotunatly… you have to go through Iwa to get there.
-[X]Sakumo
-[X]Orochimaru
-[X]Ashai

Hard choice, but we're not in a position for emotions to hinder us. Ren needs to understand what is at stake here.

I think going through Iwa is the safest route. I don't expect it to be a safe journey, but I'm more comfortable dealing with them rather than Suna.
 
What do you do:
[]Leave them: You have no time to burn the bodies, you have to leave. And someone will see the smoke.
[]Burn them: You will grant your friends that small mercy. You will burn their bodies so that they may rest in peace.

Do we not have any free storage scrolls for bodies? Even if we do have enough for all of them, I'm sure we could get the more important bloodlines to protect in them.

Which way do you march:

What edge of the land of birds are we in? There's a big difference between being on the Western and Eastern edges. If we're in the middle that's good to know too.


I'm hesitant to go to the East since that route takes us closest to both Suna and Iwa, but no direction is ideal.
 
Do we not have any free storage scrolls for bodies? Even if we do have enough for all of them, I'm sure we could get the more important bloodlines to protect in them.
You only had the one that could store the heads, and staying any longer then you have to can and will put you in danger, which is why there is no option to stay.

Burning or leaving the bodies are more for burial purposes, instead of preventing bloodlines from falling into enemy hands, as there were not any other bloodline users within the pile of corpses.

What edge of the land of birds are we in? There's a big difference between being on the Western and Eastern edges. If we're in the middle that's good to know too.
All you know is that you're in the Land of Birds. You have no other landmarks to go off of to tell you where you are, or what direction is the best.

You are in the blind and have to make choices now.
 
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You only had the one that could store the heads, and staying any longer then you have to can and will put you in danger, which is why there is no option to stay.

Burning or leaving the bodies are more for burial purposes, instead of preventing bloodlines from falling into enemy hands, as there were not any other bloodline users within the pile of corpses.

Just burial purposes then? Might be worth not burning them then. The Uchiha won't like it, but there's no bloodlines that need protection.

Tending to the bodies is to help those still living deal with the loss. Their soul should be in the Pure Land already.

All you know is that you're in the Land of Birds. You have no other landmarks to go off of to tell you where you are, or what direction is the best.

You are in the blind and have to make choices now.

...how do we know we're in the land of birds? Did our captors say something?
 
...how do we know we're in the land of birds? Did our captors say something?
Sakumo picked up that bit of information when we were talking to Aka and the beast. He didn't mention it earlier becaue he did not know how long they had been traveling, and thought it might be information deception.

Edit: The reason you are in the Land of Birds is that one roll that told you where you are is far enough away from Konoha that it's really difficult to get back.

I'm not being that cruel as to make things needlessly difficult for you guys.
 
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[X] Plan Rising Sun

I don't know much about the Land of Birds, but in Rain their is no major conflict that I can think of. As Hanzo is a child or baby if he is even born yet.

Edit: Thought I knew the name. Apparently Land of Birds is the place where Naruto, Neji, Tenten, and possibly someone else I'm forgetting where they were on a mission to fight a ghost warrior(It's a filler arc). I'm not gonna spoil anything incase you want to watch it but there seems to be little history on this time period.

So the GM can do alot with the place. Still gonna keep my vote though.
 
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As Hanzo is a child or baby if he is even born yet.
Nope. Hanzo is at least an elite. Remember, we're classmates with the Sanin. The reason they even had that name was that they survived a fight with the Legendary Leader of Rain, Salamander Hanzo.

Make no mistake, Hanzo was an absolute badass for a really long time.
 
Nope. Hanzo is at least an elite. Remember, we're classmates with the Sanin. The reason they even had that name was that they survived a fight with the Legendary Leader of Rain, Salamander Hanzo.

Make no mistake, Hanzo was an absolute badass for a really long time.
Hanzo is alive and has just become leader of Rain. His badass credentials are long and scary.
 
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Hanzo is alive and has just become leader of Rain. His badass credentials are long.
He is also about as decent a bloke as you are likely to find as a leader in the Village System. Its a really low bar, but that he hurdled it is really... really impressive.

He was just some kid from a country that is one giant Catatumbo that sees more invasions and travail than the Levant. Their geography is such that, even before the formation of Villages, every damn asshole with an army would have broken out their dickwolves. He ended up getting butchered in a Frankensteinian operation, turning him into a living chemical weapon that will never be able to have intimate relations with another human being. What about that suggests that the guy would turn out alright?

But he did. The guy eventually went downhill but it took many, many decades and a fair bit of (fuck Danzo) external intervention. Before then he was one of the few leaders who could take a step away from the realpolitik and who could just choose to be less than an utter bastard because he could afford to be.

If we have to get captured, I'd trust him more than most others. Its not desirable, but he is on the short list of people we might survive at the mercy of.
 
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He is also about as decent a bloke as you are likely to find as a leader in the Village System. Its a really low bar, but that he hurdled it is really... really impressive.
Yeah... He's also nice enough to show mercy to his enemies... Which is so much better in an era before Talk No Jutsu.

He was just some kid from a country that is one giant Catatumbo that sees more invasions and trevail than the Levant. He ended up getting butchered in a Frankensteinian operation, turning him into a living chemical weapon that will never be able to have intimate relations with another human being. What about that suggests that the guy would turn out alright?

But he did. The guy eventually went downhill but it took many, many decades and a fair bit of (fuck Danzo) external intervention. Before then he was one of the few leaders who could take a step away from the realpolitik and who could just choose to be less than an utter bastard because he could afford to.

If we have to get captured, I'd trust him more than most others. Its not desirable, but he is on the short list of people we might survive at the mercy of.
But please remember that we are... A group of children that have been kidnapped from their home, and almost everyone here is either a clan member, has a bloodline, or just happens to have an artifact that most nations will kill for (The White Chakra Saber).

He might play politics in order to get a desirable outcome for his nation if we are captured by him. Hell, he might use us as leverage in negotiations with whoever he feels like he can trust the most.

But that's if you're unlucky... And if Hiruzen and Danzo don't get the wrong idea and start a war to 'rescue' us.
 
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No arguments here. We are talking contingencies for contingencies and generalized stacking of the deck. If things do go to hell, what do you do to give yourself one more saving throw and maybe not die?

One thing I'm sure of is that both Madara and Zetsu are playing separate games of chess to salvage this situation. Both in terms of retrieving their original rewards and exploiting the new political situation since nobody has an accurate grasp of what is actually going on. There isn't going to be a silver bullet here. If there was, our enemies would at least have their own opportunity to make it their silver bullet. What we have to do is play risk management and keep our fingers crossed.
 
No arguments here. We are talking contingencies for contingencies and generalized stacking of the deck. If things do go to hell, what do you do to give yourself one more saving throw and maybe not die?
There's an old phrase my dad used when he played poker. When you've got a shit hand with nothing to lose, you might as well go for broke and go all in.

No one ever expects that stuff, and it flips the table in such a way that it makes everyone step back in shock.

Especially since no one expects academy students (And two freshly graduated genin) to escape from high bounty bingo book criminals, walk hundreds of miles through hostile territory and or escape the dozens of hunter-nin teams (from various nations) who are hunting them down, and get home in time to prevent their leaders from doing something very, very stupid.:V

Edit: Blame Danzo and or Madara if anything happens to us in the land of fire... As is tradition.
 
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It's also worth noting that he single-handedly held off FIVE highly aggressive nations for decades. Also, it took an angry nascent godling personally ripping out his soul to finally put him down.
 
[X] Plan Tough choices and true friends

Taking the most Konoha hating route AND lighting a signal fire is not looking to be a good combo
 
It's also worth noting that he single-handedly held off FIVE highly aggressive nations for decades. Also, it took an angry nascent godling personally ripping out his soul to finally put him down.
And that was after a couple decades of severe, crippling depression and paranoia that left him as a hikikomori. The man didn't train once he got to that point and he was still terrifying.
There's an old phrase my dad used when he played poker. When you've got a shit hand with nothing to lose, you might as well go for broke and go all in.
Which could mean a lot of things right now. There are degrees of crazy.

We could give Hanzo the bargaining chip he needs while also preemptively playing it: Make him the hero of the story before he even does anything. We'd be using authority we sure as hell don't have but that it the spirit of 'it is better to ask forgiveness than permission' and it would be using our Village's momentum in our favor. If we could make Hanzo say "You bunch of cheeky dickwaffles" under his mask while grinning then we will have done our job.

We could violate expectations by just not going home. Short term victory is just not being captured by anybody too nasty. Just get the fuck away as fast and hard as possible. There is clearly a system of rivers going through the buffer states between the great powers. Bird, Ame, Grass, and of course River. Just see how many miles you can go on a boat down that mess and make a plan from there.

We could deal with the land holding powers and not the Villages. Daimyo play their own games and mostly want to stay the fuck out of Village business. They will even contract with other land's Villages if its even slightly expedient. Drop that mass of shit on one's platter and he won't be thinking about how to exploit it: He'll just want you to go home in a way that doesn't get a vendetta in his own court. The same for any power too small to keep us and who doesn't have a close tie to someone like Iwa.

We could make damn sure that the various groups after us RUN INTO EACH OTHER. Most of them want each other dead, even if official war can not be declared. The more chaos, the harder we are to pin down.

We could become very, very visible in a way that is immediately discounted. Or hidden but hidden poorly, disguising ourselves at least superficially as one of the hunter groups after us by some petty non-power.
 
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