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Deus Pater (Exalted/40k)

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Maugan Ra said:
I don't do trap options.

And let's be honest, if you didn't run into some kind of reflexively paranoid gun-toting opposition while presenting yourself as anointed by the Emperor I might as well not be running a 40k quest at all.

For the record this has more to do with choosing 'Exile' as your option for the Inquisitor than it does choosing the Sororitas second. Watching a veteran member of the Ordo Hereticus turn and walk away like that set all kinds of alarm bells ringing.
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When comply wins because let's face it at this point it's going to win unless somebody comes up with something particularly good. Can you give us an idea of how long this is going to take and if we'll have the ability as in not being chained to a wall to understand our powers and learn exactly how they work?
 
spiritualatheist said:
The thing is, the damage we can do isn't particularly limited. Remember that Hitler expy from the Ciaphas Cain books? Every person they let us speak to could be exposed to corruption/brainwashed. You do not let a possible memetic threat give planetwide sermons.
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Yeah, that's exactly who I was thinking of.

We could absolutely argue for doing '100 push ups, 100 sit ups, 100 squats, and then a 10 km run every day' or learning to shoot or fight or whatever. I honestly expect the tests will give us training of some kind just as part of the process to discern between psychic powers vs daemonhost vs saint, because paranoia aside being chained up on a wall tells them squat about us and the pious Sisters won't stand for bullshitting the testing. It's asking to continue preaching to the lay people and giving orders that is just not happening with a suspected Psyker.
 
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[X] Comply. You will go with the Sororitas, and trust that this will not mean your doom.
 
Quest over effectively, either we are stuck in the sororitas abbey for months being tortured endlessly to prove we aren't a psyker, which by surviving we fail, or we refuse and are immediately gunned down/start a civil war against a shit load of power armored bolter bitches.
 
[X] Comply. You will go with the Sororitas, and trust that this will not mean your doom.

You know, nothing we've done so far is theoretically out of range for a Slaanesh daemon or something.
 
[X] Comply. You will go with the Sororitas, and trust that this will not mean your doom.

Alectai said:
To be fair, this isn't as bad as some think it is. The fact that they even are allowing for the possibility that we are exactly who we appear to be means that they're going to break out the actually good methods of verification, rather than the half arsed ones meant to get a confession from someone already condemned to death.

And that very much means that we're looking at more of a week of observation and interrogation rather than years. Because it would very quickly become clear that Ignatius isn't affected by the sorts of things that burn even the mightiest daemons and most pious psykers.

And at that point, we win, because they've already allowed for the possibility we are what we claim to be.

The price here is time, not death. And one week is fairly affordable to get one of the finest fighting forces in the Imperium in our camp, especially since we also secured the local priesthood first.
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I agree and want to add one more positive to complying with the Battle Sister's demands. Getting them to declare us as a Living Saint (or even something greater) is about as close as a person in the Imperium can get to getting a "Living Saint" certificate. Giving us clout over not just the local sisters but Battle Sisters everywhere.

And their declaration that we're a Living Saint is something we're going to desperately need to prevent our enemies from declaring us an abomination. Also it would probably help with our plans to talk with the naval force above our planet. After all what sane Imperial captain would refuse a call from a Living Saint?
 
KleverKil'Vanya said:
Quest over effectively, either we are stuck in the sororitas abbey for months being tortured endlessly to prove we aren't a psyker, which by surviving we fail, or we refuse and are immediately gunned down/start a civil war against a shit load of power armored bolter bitches.
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a. holy shit could you not with the "bolter bitches", like idk if it's just because it was part of the 40k nerd lexicon so it gets an uncritical pass but does that term not, like, sound kinda bad to you? Like generally denigrating of an all-female fighting force? Christ.

b. This is legitimately the Sororitas taking a measured and considerate stance towards us. Like out of the morass of the Imperium the Sororitas are generally regarded as one of the few organizations that walk their talk nearly 100% of the time (there's canonically like, what, one Sororitas that's fallen to Chaos?) and are often part of pretty heroic battles against literally impossible odds. Sometimes they even win!

Which is to say that they're very experienced in what they do, they have no interest in wasting anyone's time least of all theirs, and their doctrine allows for the existence of people/things like Living Saints and others so blessed by the Emperor. But they're handling us as a potentially grave threat because we are and the consequences for fucking up "silver tongued heretic who can banish the Inquisitor with a word in control of the most important Shrine World in an entire subsector" are high. They're giving us the benefit of the doubt, we should give them the same. They're taking us seriously and so we should do the same.
 
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KleverKil'Vanya said:
Quest over effectively, either we are stuck in the sororitas abbey for months being tortured endlessly to prove we aren't a psyker, which by surviving we fail, or we refuse and are immediately gunned down/start a civil war against a shit load of power armored bolter bitches.
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No, this is us being questioned or a week or so by the organization most qualified to figure out what is going on.

What's more, I think that in character there might be at least a kernel of doubt in our character's mind as to where these powers really come from. I feel as though this is something he would welcome so he can prove his holiness to himself as well as the Sororitas.
 
KleverKil'Vanya said:
Quest over effectively, either we are stuck in the sororitas abbey for months being tortured endlessly to prove we aren't a psyker, which by surviving we fail, or we refuse and are immediately gunned down/start a civil war against a shit load of power armored bolter bitches.
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yeah, that's why there's a vote at the end of the post. which is like the fifth update. it's because the quest is over, all done, everyone go home
 
[X] Comply. You will go with the Sororitas, and trust that this will not mean your doom.
 
Yeah, this is exactly what I expected.

[X] Comply. You will go with the Sororitas, and trust that this will not mean your doom.

Tell me, which is more suspicious, Ignatius using supernatural means to somehow convince an entire group of Sororitas that no, we're totally good and don't need to be tested for any Chaos influence, or Ignatius willingly submitting to their testing and being subjected to a thorough series of tests designed to verify without a doubt that we are blessed by the Emperor and not one of the Ruinous Powers?

Besides, it'll probably be only be a few weeks. We can spare that much, given how slow travel times are in 40k. Stop screeching about how we can't afford to waste any time.
 
Also our dude is probably the type of guy who'd go "actually, yeah, I should probably be tested for chaos tbh. Not like I know anything about my situation. If I'm verified to be a baddie, I should be put down. Please take me away ma'am"
 
[X] Comply. You will go with the Sororitas, and trust that this will not mean your doom.

The emperor protects
 
Arcus said:
Yeah, this is exactly what I expected.

[X] Comply. You will go with the Sororitas, and trust that this will not mean your doom.

Tell me, which is more suspicious, Ignatius using supernatural means to somehow convince an entire group of Sororitas that no, we're totally good and don't need to be tested for any Chaos influence, or Ignatius willingly submitting to their testing and being subjected to a thorough series of tests designed to verify without a doubt that we are blessed by the Emperor and not one of the Ruinous Powers?

Besides, it'll probably be only be a few weeks. We can spare that much, given how slow travel times are in 40k. Stop screeching about how we can't afford to waste any time.
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Do you people even read the leading persuade write-in? I'm not even going to bother explaining it a fifth time.
 
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[X] Persuade. You will convince the Sororitas that such a course is perhaps unwise and certainly unnecessary. There is another way.
  • [X] Would you doubt your sister and the Entirety of the Planets Priesthood would you doubt those virtuous Souls who witnessed the Emperor Saving me from the Inferno Guns Blast with his Holy LIght simply out of Stubbornness, when I can think of no such way that I who have never shown such ability to do could survive a point Blank shot. Would you doubt me who has Served the Emperor Valiantly and Piously for Decades. If you think on these and still wish to test my Soul I will do so gladly but you should first reflect on the entirety before bending Conclusions to fit your veiw of the World As was said in the terran Aprocypha, "The Problem with people is not that they refuse to see a certain Conclusion but that they bend the facts to fit what they want to be true and in turn destroy truth itself. TO find the Truth one must be willing to put aside prejudice for the Sake of truth"
  • -[X] If we fail to convince we go with her
 
Wow. A Prophet kind of character in Warhammer 40K. No way this is going to end badly.

[X] Comply. You will go with the Sororitas, and trust that this will not mean your doom.
 
tq343 said:
And he had the requirement that they had to be able to see him in person. A Solar Exalt has no such limitation. It's too bad 40k's interstellar communications are garbage, we could practically take the sector with a speech.
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And this is not unprecedented in 40k. Off the top of my head, the chatter from the third Gaunt book doesn't need any kind of physical presence. So this is something the Sisters would definitely know to be risky.

Powerofmind said:
Do you people even read the leading persuade write-in? I'm not even going to bother explaining it a fifth time.
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I have read it, and I see it as far too risky. Allowing us to interact with our followers or preach is the one thing the Sororitas absolutely will not and should not allow. If we fail to persuade this group, I believe they will view us more negatively, since what we are asking for is basically a dereliction of their duty. If we succeed the likely penalized check, then this group agrees, which confirms us as a memetic threat of some kind to the rest of the sisters. I prefer going quietly so as to not squander our social capital.
 
Wish that the Emperor had given us a
Heavenly Mandate Marking
that would cut right though all this uncertainty.
 
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