We would be 8-9 by the time it happens, also it's anbu who can range from Chunin-Jounin. Their are about 20 of them, and we could bring backup pretty fast. Kakashi + Rin where doing decent until Rin killed herself, and if that doesn't happen Obito should actually help beyond going insane.
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Uchiha Quest: Silver Edition [Naruto Reincarnation Quest]
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Considering we got an ability of our own that the QM has described as OP (albiet currently low-level), yes.
I don't your logic of how our Byakugan 2.0 would have to be B Rank in order for us to have a greater sensory range than your average enemy jounin.
I believe the idea is to nab Rin/Isobu BEFORE the latter gets sealed into the prior, so we would at the very least be starting the fight without back-up. Assuming we fight, and don't just be a little shit who is there solely to ruin their plans with some good ole hit and run.
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DarkKing98
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Because I'm not talking about Mind's Eye being B Rank. I'm talking about our fighting prowess. We require to rank up so much bullshit it's amazing! Durability, Speed, Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, we'd need to unlock our Sharigan which could take who knows how long AND fully mature it, combat ready skill, we just need a whole lot of shit to go RIGHT for us.
Ah, that's what you mean. In which case, I still disagree. If we want to be able to fight them and win? Yeah, that's gonna be a tad rough (though I think totally possible), but we don't need to do that. We need to be able to follow them, and then snatch Rin and/or the Isobu Container and just high-tail it. That is MUCH easier, the first half is practically already covered with our minds eye, the latter we have a half dozen various ways to achieve beyond simply working on our raw speed Minato style. Don't gotta fight them if they can't catch you.
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DarkKing98
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100 people could roll a d50 individually and on average that makes us somewhere in D Rank. Getting to B Rank in a single stat is going to be hell. Let alone perhaps even A Rank.
Also, why the HELL would we be focusing on Rin's Chakra signature? Let alone know who it is? Also what will we know to even grab IC? And what if we aren't in the village at the time? There are many, many things we need to go PERFECTLY or this all falls apart.
We need 5000 points total to go from F to B. We get (at least) 3 training per update, 2 updates per year till year 4, when it becomes at least 3 updates per year. 12 training actions by year 4, 27 more by year 7. We've been averaging 418 points per roll so far, and each training action tends to give us at least 2 different rolls. If we focus on something, we can get it from F to B using 1 action per update by year 7 and an average roll of 384.
That's "Why", a much different question from "How", and one I wasn't even arguing over. I believe we totally can handle the scenario, doesn't mean I got any ideas for why Tobi would feel like doing so.
DarkKing98
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Where are you getting the action numbers from? Also, our averaging rolls is due to our insane luck and Modifier. We are losing one soon. And our luck will be shot at times as well.
Edit: Heading to bed. Just putting this out here though. Uchiha Clan has Cat Contract. Sage Mode is powerful. Put it together.
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5 +s in each letter grade, 100 for each F, 200 for each E, 300 for each D, and 400 for each C. 5*(100+200+300+400)=5000
Our average certainly will go down, but also note how the needed average was a full 100 less than the current average, and the calculation was made using the lowest assumptions when we are very likely to end up getting more training sessions or something once we lose the modifier (since GM has said he's gonna have to come up with something to make sure growth doesn't drop to a crawl).
InquiQual
Emanator of Mythus, the Enigmata
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[X] You've now covered the basics, you should start advancing a little bit, and look into things like bukijutsu. Train 'Strength,' 'Sight,' 'Touch,' and 'Intuition.' 65% chance to unlock skill 'Throwing,' 5% chance to unlock skill 'Bukijutsu.'
[X] Now that you have some degree of mobility, you should start actively training your skills. Your father does his katas every morning. Perhaps you should mimic him and see what happens? Train 'Taijutsu.' 5% chance of gaining training option 'Taijutsu' with Uchiha Ryota.
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] Spend more time helping your mother around the house. She's a fully-qualified Tokujo who's stuck at home because of you, try to make her time as enjoyable as possible.
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
[X] Now that you have some degree of mobility, you should start actively training your skills. Your father does his katas every morning. Perhaps you should mimic him and see what happens? Train 'Taijutsu.' 5% chance of gaining training option 'Taijutsu' with Uchiha Ryota.
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] Spend more time helping your mother around the house. She's a fully-qualified Tokujo who's stuck at home because of you, try to make her time as enjoyable as possible.
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Here's a question, are we going to get any free points just for growing up? Cause kids just get stronger and smarter without actually working for that stuff as a natural side effect of getting older.
I understand if that won't happen to us because of Game Mechanics, but I figured I'd raise the question.
I understand if that won't happen to us because of Game Mechanics, but I figured I'd raise the question.
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- Earth
[X] Not only is it useful, it is also extremely enjoyable. Moments like these will become rarer with age. Make the most of the ones you have, especially if they simultaneously help you improve your skills. Train with Nakamura Shiori. Train 'Chakra' and 'Mind's Eye of Kagura' with an additional +10 to each roll.
[X] Now that you have some degree of mobility, you should start actively training your skills. Your father does his katas every morning. Perhaps you should mimic him and see what happens? Train 'Taijutsu.' 5% chance of gaining training option 'Taijutsu' with Uchiha Ryota.
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
[X] You won't be the only child affected by the events to come. You should try to interact with some of the others near your physical age. At the very least you can help them prepare for what they may face.
[X] Now that you have some degree of mobility, you should start actively training your skills. Your father does his katas every morning. Perhaps you should mimic him and see what happens? Train 'Taijutsu.' 5% chance of gaining training option 'Taijutsu' with Uchiha Ryota.
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
[X] You won't be the only child affected by the events to come. You should try to interact with some of the others near your physical age. At the very least you can help them prepare for what they may face.
[X] Not only is it useful, it is also extremely enjoyable. Moments like these will become rarer with age. Make the most of the ones you have, especially if they simultaneously help you improve your skills. Train with Nakamura Shiori. Train 'Chakra' and 'Mind's Eye of Kagura' with an additional +10 to each roll.
[X] Now that you have some degree of mobility, you should start actively training your skills. Your father does his katas every morning. Perhaps you should mimic him and see what happens? Train 'Taijutsu.' 5% chance of gaining training option 'Taijutsu' with Uchiha Ryota.
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
[X] You won't be the only child affected by the events to come. You should try to interact with some of the others near your physical age. At the very least you can help them prepare for what they may face.
[X] Now that you have some degree of mobility, you should start actively training your skills. Your father does his katas every morning. Perhaps you should mimic him and see what happens? Train 'Taijutsu.' 5% chance of gaining training option 'Taijutsu' with Uchiha Ryota.
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
[X] You won't be the only child affected by the events to come. You should try to interact with some of the others near your physical age. At the very least you can help them prepare for what they may face.
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- United States
The minds eye of kaguras an uzumaki thing why didn't we get the famed uzumaki vitally/stamina from the crit 10 moms obviously uzumaki descendant
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
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- USA
Read. The fucking. Author's Note. Goddamnit!
DrTortoise
May the World Turtle Save Us All
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- United States
Probably not. Keep in mind that we're far ahead of the curve developmentally already.
A normal child should be an F overall for the next few years. A normal adult should be in the Es. A normal genin reaches D overall by the age of 12, so we're already growing very rapidly.
Mind's Eye of Kagura is classified as a Hijutsu in canon, not a bloodline. It's more like the Nara's kagemane or the Yamanaka's shinsten than the sharingan or hyoton.
It's entirely likely that the Mind's Eye was something Orochimaru found Karin to be compatible with and coached her on, rather than a bloodline from the Uzumaki. We also know that chakra sensors are found across all the clans, so there's nothing saying our mother has to be an Uzumaki descendant.
[X] Not only is it useful, it is also extremely enjoyable. Moments like these will become rarer with age. Make the most of the ones you have, especially if they simultaneously help you improve your skills. Train with Nakamura Shiori. Train 'Chakra' and 'Mind's Eye of Kagura' with an additional +10 to each roll.
[X] Your physical abilities are exceptional, and that's precisely why you should push them further. It's always smart to play to your strengths. Train 'Strength,' and 'Speed.'
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] You won't be the only child affected by the events to come. You should try to interact with some of the others near your physical age. At the very least you can help them prepare for what they may face.
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
I feel like training Speed matters more than Taijutsu, considering the system.
[X] Your physical abilities are exceptional, and that's precisely why you should push them further. It's always smart to play to your strengths. Train 'Strength,' and 'Speed.'
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] You won't be the only child affected by the events to come. You should try to interact with some of the others near your physical age. At the very least you can help them prepare for what they may face.
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
I feel like training Speed matters more than Taijutsu, considering the system.
I'm not sure if this is a good enough scheme for multi-crits. A 5x crit on it's own is pretty hard to get (when our bonuses wear off), and the very best it could get us is a "decent perk" under this system. Also, there's no difference between a 1x crit and a 2x crit.
DrTortoise
May the World Turtle Save Us All
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- United States
How about then I add the d10 roll to a bonus roll?
Idk I can't really think of much better, do you have any suggestions?
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DarkKing98
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- USA
Hard Mode this system makes sense. Shit can't be too easy after all.
1d100+Xd10 would be pretty good, that way the entire spectrum is possible and starts favoring the higher range rather strongly the longer the crit chain. Would have to decide what to do with rolls that end up +100, could either just cut them off at 100 (which would be fair, considering that a 100 would be a Amazing Perk/Skill), or use the flow-over to give another perk (which means a 10x chain has the possibility of giving us 2 Amazing Perks).
Another possibility is simply increasing the die size to d20. A 1x crit would only get us an extra training roll, and a 5x crit would give us the chance (though unlikely) to get an Amazing Perk, while even higher crits would increase the possibility of a Amazing Perk even more.
The way I understood it, this is Hard Mode not because the system itself is set up to be hard, but because of who we are and the challenges that will force us to face. We know so many secrets that if we ain't careful we'll probably be shipped right to T&I, our status as a Genius will attract a ton of attention, certain individuals (once they find out who we really are) would be REALLY interested in fucking us over, etc.
DrTortoise
May the World Turtle Save Us All
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- United States
I think I'll just change it to d20. I want the Amazing perk on nothing other than a nat crit. Getting too many 'amazing' abilities like Mind's Eye randomly has the potential to break the quest. I have no problem with developing them naturally, but spontaneously is undesirable
DarkKing98
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The system with d10s are perfectly fine if we don't have to spend them when we get them. It can be like treating crits as a precious resource.
dragon
Ancalagon the Black
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- The Skies of Arda
[X] Not only is it useful, it is also extremely enjoyable. Moments like these will become rarer with age. Make the most of the ones you have, especially if they simultaneously help you improve your skills. Train with Nakamura Shiori. Train 'Chakra' and 'Mind's Eye of Kagura' with an additional +10 to each roll.
[X] Your physical abilities are exceptional, and that's precisely why you should push them further. It's always smart to play to your strengths. Train 'Strength,' and 'Speed.'
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] You won't be the only child affected by the events to come. You should try to interact with some of the others near your physical age. At the very least you can help them prepare for what they may face.
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
[X] Your physical abilities are exceptional, and that's precisely why you should push them further. It's always smart to play to your strengths. Train 'Strength,' and 'Speed.'
[X] You haven't really spent much time playing around with your exceptional senses. Your chakra sense may be exceptional, but you can think of several situations where it might not be enough. Further, the Uchiha have the gift of the Sharingan. You may not have it yet, but the more you train for it now, the better it can serve you later. Perhaps you should see what your senses can really do? Train 'Perception' and 'Intelligence.' 5% chance to gain skill 'Tracking.'
[X] You won't be the only child affected by the events to come. You should try to interact with some of the others near your physical age. At the very least you can help them prepare for what they may face.
[X] You've admittedly become somewhat attached to your father, despite his undesirable heritage. Perhaps getting to know him better wouldn't be out of question.
That's understandable. While we have a fair number of crits currently, from what I understand they will become far more scarce once our bonuses wear off.
That might work, but that would also remove the specialness of long crit chains. A 10x crit should be better than 10 1x crits.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Yeah, that's fair. Figured it'd be the case but, you know, no harm in asking. Thanks for answering my question.