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Best In Life - Imperial Knight Order Quest [Warhammer Fantasy]

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Archon of Ghosts said:
That moment when most votes are just going to the plan on which the planmaker is openly mercenary rather than taking the plans that are established simply because weight of numbers. Rip plans apart from Imrix's, losing our voting base.
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Honestly, I kind of take it as a good thing? Speaking as a QM, I don't like how often I see voting bases just jump on the most obvious bandwagon rather than really think about their choices, but this suggests that being openly willing to compromise and construct a plan in concert with others according to figuring out what people want over time, can work really well.
 
Imrix said:
Honestly, I kind of take it as a good thing? Speaking as a QM, I don't like how often I see voting bases just jump on the most obvious bandwagon rather than really think about their choices, but this suggests that being openly willing to compromise and construct a plan in concert with others according to figuring out what people want over time, can work really well.
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except the last two votes that have come in your way were both mentioning how they liked the dual admirer thing, which most plans have at this point, so it's kinda odd and it seems they're just voting for the bloc that has the numbers advantage.

In my eyes, one of the most interesting parts about WH Fantasy is the interactions with the Gods and their favour. Unlike the mostly absent God Emperor in WH40K, the Human Gods are active, very much so, in countering the threats to the Human Realms, as well as the other Pantheons. Your plan has yet to mention whether it takes the secular route or aligns with a Deity, meaning that some people could get disappointed in that since I've seen some really wanting to not go down with Divine Favour, while others want to have the Divine interactions.
 
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Archon of Ghosts said:
except the last two votes that have come in your way were both mentioning how they liked the dual admirer thing, which most plans have at this point, so it's kinda odd and it seems they're just voting for the bloc that has the numbers advantage.
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Yeah, but the nearest competitor doesn't have the dual admirer thing. Tactical voting will always be a thing in these systems.
 
Wonder how the tally looks like now.
Looks like I still have no idea how to actually format a plan, despite it looking without issues on the page...
Adhoc vote count started by Imrix on Mar 23, 2018 at 6:31 AM, finished with 106 posts and 33 votes.
  • [X] Plan Imrix (work in progress, do not include this bracketed section if voting for this plan, it will be deleted later)
    -[X][MARTIAL] Your old sparring mate, Dragg Limbripper, has heard that new Orders are being founded and come to seek his knighthood yet again. While an ogre squire would be a first, there's no actual rule against it, and Dragg's a good fellow. A bit dim, but he means well! Besides, he's a phenomenal wrestler, and it'd be good to have a training partner who can actually push you - and just think what he could make of your knights!... If he doesn't break them.
    -[X][STEWARDSHIP] Sontrulvus is an elven merchant, immigrated here from Ulthuan several hundred years ago and now a naturalised citizen of the Empire. Adept at both diplomacy and business in a way you could never comprehend, he would be the ideal retainer if not for his awful attitude. Although his court manners are impeccable, elves are not well-liked by the common folk of the Empire, and neither for that matter are merchants, so taking him on will raise a few eyebrows. At least he respects you somewhat, thanks to your service in the Long March. (Special, may be selected as either a Stewardship or Diplomacy option, and can act in both capacities, but costs 50 Prestige)
    -[X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?
    -[X][PIETY] You've met Sunnhilde Kantorowicz before, at the center of an outbreak of Nurglites near Kemperbad. By all accounts she is a normal priestess of Shallya, if a little stiff, preaching peace and treating the wounded… until she saw the infected dead rise, went mad with outrage, and began beating them to death with whatever was nearby. By the time your Reiksguard arrived she was still beating them to second death with an iron bar. A Shallyan Priestess would be an invaluable comfort to your subordinates, and you actually wouldn't mind having the little firecracker around… But being that high-strung probably doesn't bode well for her future in a Knightly Order...
    -[X][BRETONNIA] The new Marquis, a fully ordained Knight of the Realm, has taken up the Kingdom's vendetta and seeks to challenge you to single combat, with the caveat that if you lose, you will become his wife. That's… slightly concerning. You have no intention of getting married to a Bretonnian, you know what they do to women there. Your future there is death in a wineyard, not death on the battlefield. And you don't like wine that much.​
    -[X][DESTRUCTION] As a teenage girl, you once had a daydream or two about being kidnapped by a vampire and finding eternal love in undeath - because monsters or not the story of Vlad von Carstein and Isabella von Carstein is pretty fucking romantic - but the thing about teenage fantasies is how awful they tend to be in practice. Which is not great for you, because you seem to have a vampiric admirer. More than once he's slaughtered a pack of beastmen and greenskins to raise an army to fight you, just so he can see you again. It's… actually fairly thoughtful of him to clear out the Empire's enemies while still giving you something to crush, but this is still creepy. Eurgh.​
    [X] Plan: The Order of Knights Warden
    [X] Plan Judgement of the Dead
    -[X][NAME] The Black Templars
    -[X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.​

    --[X] Morr​

    -[X][MARTIAL] Siegbert Reiner is an old travelling companion of yours, the sole other survivor of your time with the elves. You're surprised he's put his name forwards, he swore he'd had enough battle to last a lifetime, but you suppose the old dog changed his mind. A beastmaster of some ability, he would be invaluable in breaking and training the Order's horses - and other creatures, if they were acquired in the future.​

    -[X][STEWARDSHIP] Besen von Verlässlich, or Brom as you called him, is a childhood friend of yours. You remember him as he was, weedy and noodly, but he had heart. So you kept him around, showed him the ropes, dragged him along for walks, and hammered him into good iron. Before long he grew up, bulked out, and became someone worth talking to. Last you heard he had become a part of the Imperial Estate, an aide to the Imperial Steward! And now he's applying to serve you. That's… actually kind of sweet of him.​

    -[X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?​
    -[X][PIETY] A Warrior-Priest has offered to join your Order to help tend to the men and watch over the faith of your Order. You're pretty sure they're plants by the various cults in the Empire, but having a Warrior-Priest stationed permanently in your Order would be tremendous for morale, especially in a Religious Order.​
    -[X][BRETONNIA] The new Marquis, a fully ordained Knight of the Realm, has taken up the Kingdom's vendetta and seeks to challenge you to single combat, with the caveat that if you lose, you will become his wife. That's… slightly concerning. You have no intention of getting married to a Bretonnian, you know what they do to women there. Your future there is death in a wineyard, not death on the battlefield. And you don't like wine that much.​
    -[X][DESTRUCTION] As a teenage girl, you once had a daydream or two about being kidnapped by a vampire and finding eternal love in undeath - because monsters or not the story of Vlad von Carstein and Isabella von Carstein is pretty fucking romantic - but the thing about teenage fantasies is how awful they tend to be in practice. Which is not great for you, because you seem to have a vampiric admirer. More than once he's slaughtered a pack of beastmen and greenskins to raise an army to fight you, just so he can see you again. It's… actually fairly thoughtful of him to clear out the Empire's enemies while still giving you something to crush, but this is still creepy. Eurgh.​
    [X] Plan Sigmar
    [X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.
    -[X] Sigmar
    [X][MARTIAL] Siegbert Reiner is an old travelling companion of yours, the sole other survivor of your time with the elves. You're surprised he's put his name forwards, he swore he'd had enough battle to last a lifetime, but you suppose the old dog changed his mind. A beastmaster of some ability, he would be invaluable in breaking and training the Order's horses - and other creatures, if they were acquired in the future.
    [X][STEWARDSHIP] Besen von Verlässlich, or Brom as you called him, is a childhood friend of yours. You remember him as he was, weedy and noodly, but he had heart. So you kept him around, showed him the ropes, dragged him along for walks, and hammered him into good iron. Before long he grew up, bulked out, and became someone worth talking to. Last you heard he had become a part of the Imperial Estate, an aide to the Imperial Steward! And now he's applying to serve you. That's… actually kind of sweet of him.
    [X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?
    [X][PIETY] A Priest has offered to join your Order to help tend to the men and watch over the faith of your Order. You're pretty sure they're plants by the various cults in the Empire, but having a Priest stationed permanently in your Order would be tremendous for morale, especially in a Religious Order.
    [X][BRETONNIA] Especially now that you have a Grail Knight coming after you. Apparently the Lady of the Lake took a personal interest in you defeating their Lord and has sent one of her personal demigod champions to beat you. At least you can trust that you won't die in the process. Maybe if you make a good enough impression they won't put you on a spit and roast you.
    [X][DESTRUCTION] Johann Mayer is a former Imperial general turned arch-heretic, a monster with a silver tongue and a rotten heart. He was also once a trusted friend of your mother, your godfather, and the man you were named after. You must burn away this stain on your family's honour, but he's proven irritatingly elusive. You've foiled his schemes three or four times now, long before he can become an actual threat, but he always seems to escape - the gifts of his new patrons have made him an inspiring orator and a fearsome foe despite his advanced age, and he's a famously skilled commander. Even with a rabble of mutants, brigands, deserters and peasants he's a serious threat. If he ever had time to knock them into something like a proper army...
    [X][Name] Knights of the Blazing Hammer
    [X] Plan: The Order of Knights Warden
    [X][FAITH] Secular Order: Divorced from the politics of religion and free to operate, but they forsake the blessings of their patron.
    [X][MARTIAL] Your own squire, Reinhard Edelstein, appears to have put his name forward! He served you during your time in the Reiksguard, and you struck up a good rapport with him as friend and teacher. When you left, he had already become a fully ordained knight of the Reiksguard. Another veteran of the Reiksguard would be worth his weight in gold.
    [X][STEWARDSHIP] A Journeyman of the Gold Order, Otwin Schwerin seeks employment as part of his education to become a Magister - apparently serving the Emperor's sister looks good on the records. He's too thin, spends all his time in an expensive laboratory, and apparently his magic is on the weedy side, but he's apparently an enchanter as well as an alchemist, so you're willing to overlook how he smells funny and how his nose is always in a book, as long as he can make your sword magic.
    [X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?
    [X][PIETY] You've met Sunnhilde Kantorowicz before, at the center of an outbreak of Nurglites near Kemperbad. By all accounts she is a normal priestess of Shallya, if a little stiff, preaching peace and treating the wounded… until she saw the infected dead rise, went mad with outrage, and began beating them to death with whatever was nearby. By the time your Reiksguard arrived she was still beating them to second death with an iron bar. A Shallyan Priestess would be an invaluable comfort to your subordinates, and you actually wouldn't mind having the little firecracker around… But being that high-strung probably doesn't bode well for her future in a Knightly Order...
    [X][BRETONNIA] Especially now that you have a Grail Knight coming after you. Apparently the Lady of the Lake took a personal interest in you defeating their Lord and has sent one of her personal demigod champions to beat you. At least you can trust that you won't die in the process. Maybe if you make a good enough impression they won't put you on a spit and roast you.
    [X][DESTRUCTION] When Gork and Mork were handing out luck, Boss Ribkrumpa got the short end of the stick. He's been skulking around Reikland since before you were born, launching irritating raids but never amassing the successes necessary to accumulate a proper Waaaagh!, only holding onto his position through his innate might as as a Black Orc and a certain low cunning - you tried like many before you to crush him for good, but even the Reiksguard wasn't enough to keep him from slipping away. Now he's finally sick of being dismissed as an annoyance, and has set his sights on making his name as the Skullcrusha-crusha. He's experienced, an uncommonly skilled tactician for a greenskin, and rapidly growing in power in anticipation of facing you.
    [X][NAME] The Order of Knights Warden
    [X][NAME] The Order of Knights Warden
    [X] Plan Derek58
    -[X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.
    --[X] Sigmar
    -[X][MARTIAL] Your old sparring mate, Dragg Limbripper, has heard that new Orders are being founded and come to seek his knighthood yet again. While an ogre squire would be a first, there's no actual rule against it, and Dragg's a good fellow. A bit dim, but he means well! Besides, he's a phenomenal wrestler, and it'd be good to have a training partner who can actually push you - and just think what he could make of your knights!... If he doesn't break them.
    -[X][STEWARDSHIP] Besen von Verlässlich, or Brom as you called him, is a childhood friend of yours. You remember him as he was, weedy and noodly, but he had heart. So you kept him around, showed him the ropes, dragged him along for walks, and hammered him into good iron. Before long he grew up, bulked out, and became someone worth talking to. Last you heard he had become a part of the Imperial Estate, an aide to the Imperial Steward! And now he's applying to serve you. That's… actually kind of sweet of him.
    -[X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?
    -[X][PIETY] You've met Sunnhilde Kantorowicz before, at the center of an outbreak of Nurglites near Kemperbad. By all accounts she is a normal priestess of Shallya, if a little stiff, preaching peace and treating the wounded… until she saw the infected dead rise, went mad with outrage, and began beating them to death with whatever was nearby. By the time your Reiksguard arrived she was still beating them to second death with an iron bar. A Shallyan Priestess would be an invaluable comfort to your subordinates, and you actually wouldn't mind having the little firecracker around… But being that high-strung probably doesn't bode well for her future in a Knightly Order...
    -[X][BRETONNIA] Especially now that you have a Grail Knight coming after you. Apparently the Lady of the Lake took a personal interest in you defeating their Lord and has sent one of her personal demigod champions to beat you. At least you can trust that you won't die in the process. Maybe if you make a good enough impression they won't put you on a spit and roast you.
    -[X][DESTRUCTION] As a teenage girl, you once had a daydream or two about being kidnapped by a vampire and finding eternal love in undeath - because monsters or not the story of Vlad von Carstein and Isabella von Carstein is pretty fucking romantic - but the thing about teenage fantasies is how awful they tend to be in practice. Which is not great for you, because you seem to have a vampiric admirer. More than once he's slaughtered a pack of beastmen and greenskins to raise an army to fight you, just so he can see you again. It's… actually fairly thoughtful of him to clear out the Empire's enemies while still giving you something to crush, but this is still creepy. Eurgh.​
    -[X][NAME] Knights of the Avalanche
    [X] Plan Goddess of War
    [X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.
    -[X] Myrmidia
    [X][MARTIAL] Siegbert Reiner is an old travelling companion of yours, the sole other survivor of your time with the elves. You're surprised he's put his name forwards, he swore he'd had enough battle to last a lifetime, but you suppose the old dog changed his mind. A beastmaster of some ability, he would be invaluable in breaking and training the Order's horses - and other creatures, if they were acquired in the future.
    [X][STEWARDSHIP] Besen von Verlässlich, or Brom as you called him, is a childhood friend of yours. You remember him as he was, weedy and noodly, but he had heart. So you kept him around, showed him the ropes, dragged him along for walks, and hammered him into good iron. Before long he grew up, bulked out, and became someone worth talking to. Last you heard he had become a part of the Imperial Estate, an aide to the Imperial Steward! And now he's applying to serve you. That's… actually kind of sweet of him.
    [X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?
    [X][PIETY] A Priest has offered to join your Order to help tend to the men and watch over the faith of your Order. You're pretty sure they're plants by the various cults in the Empire, but having a Priest stationed permanently in your Order would be tremendous for morale, especially in a Religious Order. (Write-in: By Default, will match the religion of a Templar Order)
    [X][BRETONNIA] The new Marquis, a fully ordained Knight of the Realm, has taken up the Kingdom's vendetta and seeks to challenge you to single combat, with the caveat that if you lose, you will become his wife. That's… slightly concerning. You have no intention of getting married to a Bretonnian, you know what they do to women there. Your future there is death in awineyard, not death on the battlefield. And you don't like wine that much.
    [X][DESTRUCTION] As a teenage girl, you once had a daydream or two about being kidnapped by a vampire and finding eternal love in undeath - because monsters or not the story of Vlad von Carstein and Isabella von Carstein is pretty fucking romantic - but the thing about teenage fantasies is how awful they tend to be in practice. Which is not great for you, because you seem to have a vampiric admirer. More than once he's slaughtered a pack of beastmen and greenskins to raise an army to fight you, justso he can see you again. It's… actually fairly thoughtful of him to clear out the Empire's enemies while still giving you something to crush, but this is still creepy. Eurgh.
    [X][NAME] The Order of Johanna
    [X] Plan "of course I didn't name it after my self"
    [X][NAME] Write-In: Grand Order of the Titaness
    [X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.
    -[X] Myrmidia
    [X][MARTIAL] Your old sparring mate, Dragg Limbripper, has heard that new Orders are being founded and come to seek his knighthood yet again. While an ogre squire would be a first, there's no actual rule against it, and Dragg's a good fellow. A bit dim, but he means well! Besides, he's a phenomenal wrestler, and it'd be good to have a training partner who can actually push you - and just think what he could make of your knights!... If he doesn't break them.
    [X][STEWARDSHIP] Besen von Verlässlich, or Brom as you called him, is a childhood friend of yours. You remember him as he was, weedy and noodly, but he had heart. So you kept him around, showed him the ropes, dragged him along for walks, and hammered him into good iron. Before long he grew up, bulked out, and became someone worth talking to. Last you heard he had become a part of the Imperial Estate, an aide to the Imperial Steward! And now he's applying to serve you. That's… actually kind of sweet of him.
    [X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?
    [X][PIETY] You received an offer from a Templar of a Religious Order to join your service out of respect for your prowess, deeming it pleasing to their patron. Whether or not you choose to remain secular or dedicate yourself to a god, another veteran of a Knightly Order can only be helpful. Write In: a strategically minded and well-traveled Knight of the Blazing Sun
    [X][BRETONNIA] A Knight Errant has declared a vendetta on you, vowing to defeat you to avenge the slight to his father's name… oh, great, the Marquis' stupid son wants to avenge him. He's even a Knight Errant, so either he'll hound you to the end of your days or you do duel him and someone dies. Note to self, find a Jade Wizard. Hopefully he wises up soon.
    [X][DESTRUCTION] When Gork and Mork were handing out luck, Boss Ribkrumpa got the short end of the stick. He's been skulking around Reikland since before you were born, launching irritating raids but never amassing the successes necessary to accumulate a proper Waaaagh!, only holding onto his position through his innate might as as a Black Orc and a certain low cunning - you tried like many before you to crush him for good, but even the Reiksguard wasn't enough to keep him from slipping away. Now he's finally sick of being dismissed as an annoyance, and has set his sights on making his name as the Skullcrusha-crusha. He's experienced, an uncommonly skilled tactician for a greenskin, and rapidly growing in power in anticipation of facing you.
    [X] Plan "of course I didn't name it after my self"
    [X] Plan Judgement of the Dead
    -[X][NAME] The Black Templars
    -[X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.​

    --[X] Morr​

    -[X][MARTIAL] Siegbert Reiner is an old travelling companion of yours, the sole other survivor of your time with the elves. You're surprised he's put his name forwards, he swore he'd had enough battle to last a lifetime, but you suppose the old dog changed his mind. A beastmaster of some ability, he would be invaluable in breaking and training the Order's horses - and other creatures, if they were acquired in the future.​

    -[X][STEWARDSHIP] Besen von Verlässlich, or Brom as you called him, is a childhood friend of yours. You remember him as he was, weedy and noodly, but he had heart. So you kept him around, showed him the ropes, dragged him along for walks, and hammered him into good iron. Before long he grew up, bulked out, and became someone worth talking to. Last you heard he had become a part of the Imperial Estate, an aide to the Imperial Steward! And now he's applying to serve you. That's… actually kind of sweet of him.​

    -[X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?​
    [X] Plan I'll have my Demigryphs
    -[X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.
    -[X] Sigmar
    [X][MARTIAL] Siegbert Reiner is an old travelling companion of yours, the sole other survivor of your time with the elves. You're surprised he's put his name forwards, he swore he'd had enough battle to last a lifetime, but you suppose the old dog changed his mind. A beastmaster of some ability, he would be invaluable in breaking and training the Order's horses - and other creatures, if they were acquired in the future.
    -[X][PIETY] A Priest has offered to join your Order to help tend to the men and watch over the faith of your Order. You're pretty sure they're plants by the various cults in the Empire, but having a Priest stationed permanently in your Order would be tremendous for morale, especially in a Religious Order. (Write-in: By Default, will match the religion of a Templar Order)
    -[X][STEWARDSHIP] Sontrulvus is an elven merchant, immigrated here from Ulthuan several hundred years ago and now a naturalised citizen of the Empire. Adept at both diplomacy and business in a way you could never comprehend, he would be the ideal retainer if not for his awful attitude. Although his court manners are impeccable, elves are not well-liked by the common folk of the Empire, and neither for that matter are merchants, so taking him on will raise a few eyebrows. At least he respects you somewhat, thanks to your service in the Long March. (Special, may be selected as either a Stewardship or Diplomacy option, and can act in both capacities, but costs 50 Prestige)
    -[X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?
    -[X][BRETONNIA] The new Marquis, a fully ordained Knight of the Realm, has taken up the Kingdom's vendetta and seeks to challenge you to single combat, with the caveat that if you lose, you will become his wife. That's… slightly concerning. You have no intention of getting married to a Bretonnian, you know what they do to women there. Your future there is death in a wineyard, not death on the battlefield. And you don't like wine that much.​
    -[X][DESTRUCTION] As a teenage girl, you once had a daydream or two about being kidnapped by a vampire and finding eternal love in undeath - because monsters or not the story of Vlad von Carstein and Isabella von Carstein is pretty fucking romantic - but the thing about teenage fantasies is how awful they tend to be in practice. Which is not great for you, because you seem to have a vampiric admirer. More than once he's slaughtered a pack of beastmen and greenskins to raise an army to fight you, just so he can see you again. It's… actually fairly thoughtful of him to clear out the Empire's enemies while still giving you something to crush, but this is still creepy. Eurgh.​
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I mean, the reason i voted for Imrix's plan is
  • Elf steward
  • Lady in waiting
  • Knightly shenanigans V.1
  • Knightly shenanigans V.2 Vampire boogaloo
I'm ambivalent about the martial choices so i can deal with the orge and i'm pushing for the Myrmidia templar order. My preferences genuinely do overlap with his quite a lot, hence why i voted for it and am trying to sell him on the last point.

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In my eyes, one of the most interesting parts about WH Fantasy is the interactions with the Gods and their favour. Unlike the mostly absent God Emperor in WH40K, the Human Gods are active, very much so, in countering the threats to the Human Realms, as well as the other Pantheons. Your plan has yet to mention whether it takes the secular route or aligns with a Deity, meaning that some people could get disappointed in that since I've seen some really wanting to not go down with Divine Favour, while others want to have the Divine interactions.
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This is a point in favor of templardom which i am yoinking right now to pitch the idea for the plan.
 
MoebiusZero said:
I mean, the reason i voted for Imrix's plan is
  • Elf steward
  • Lady in waiting
  • Knightly shenanigans V.1
  • Knightly shenanigans V.2 Vampire boogaloo
I'm ambivalent about the martial choices so i can deal with the orge and i'm pushing for the Myrmidia templar order. My preferences genuinely do overlap with his quite a lot, hence why i voted for it and am trying to sell him on the last point.



This is a point in favor of templardom which i am yoinking right now to pitch the idea for the plan.
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The problem is that I'm not excited about the Elves, they're notoriously isolationists and really don't like humans. And conversely, they're seen with a case of "what're you doing here" when seen away from their territories (Ulthuan and Athel Loren, I'd mention Naggaroth but those aren't welcome anywhere unless you're Slaaneshi).
Myrmidia is also a obscure deity when it comes to the Empire of Man, but they already have a well known knightly presence in the form of the Order of the Blazing Sun, and its mentioned to have other major Templar Orders dedicated to her. I've got nothing personally against the Pseudo-Athena, but I'd like to give some love to a God that's dedicated to a enemy, to the point where the Black Guard mobilised to launch an independent Crusade against the Tomb Kings of all people Undead, after having supported a Crusade against Araby.
 
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[X] Plan Judgement of the Dead

could use a better name for the order and I'd take the girl that goes beserker when she sees undead to synergize more but this is fine.
 
Archon of Ghosts said:
The problem is that I'm not excited about the Elves, they're notoriously isolationists and really don't like humans. And conversely, they're seen with a case of "what're you doing here" when seen away from their territories (Ulthuan and Athel Loren, I'd mention Naggaroth but those aren't welcome anywhere unless you're Slaaneshi).
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I mean, that's generally true, but our backstory literally includes years spent with an elven army on pilgrimage through the Old World that respect us for our service as local auxiliaries.
 
Imrix said:
I mean, that's generally true, but our backstory literally includes years spent with an elven army on pilgrimage through the Old World that respect us for our service as local auxiliaries.
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We might have their respect, but having an elf with us will make us suspicious in the eyes of the rest of the Orders, as well as the courts. Our own Knights will be initially suspicious of the Elf that apparently managing the finances. You're looking at a species that has willingly chosen to isolate themselves for hundreds of years and killed anyone who entered into their territory without their permission, warning or no warning be damned.
 
Archon of Ghosts said:
We might have their respect, but having an elf with us will make us suspicious in the eyes of the rest of the Orders, as well as the courts. Our own Knights will be initially suspicious of the Elf that apparently managing the finances. You're looking at a species that has willingly chosen to isolate themselves for hundreds of years and killed anyone who entered into their territory without their permission, warning or no warning be damned.
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Teclis aiding them during the Great War of Chaos gave them great PR and the Empire makes a lot of money trading with the Elves.
 
Archon of Ghosts said:
You're confusing the High Elves on Ulthuan and the Wood Elves of Athel Loren. They are significantly different.
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And Sontrulvus is neither; he's a naturalised Imperial citizen. He might've been born on Ulthuan, home of Teclis and great trading partner to the Empire (and probably likes to remind people of that), but these days he's closer to Asthoi, the Grey Elves who cling to the remnants of the old colonies, and often live as vassals of human lords.
 
Imrix said:
And Sontrulvus is neither; he's a naturalised Imperial citizen. He might've been born on Ulthuan, home of Teclis and great trading partner to the Empire (and probably likes to remind people of that), but these days he's closer to Asthoi, the Grey Elves who cling to the remnants of the old colonies, and often live as vassals of human lords.
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Which means he'll likely be seen as an outsider by both the Asrai and the Asur, meaning his addition might bring us a experienced administrator who will be seen with suspicion from the knightly orders.
Swordomatic said:
Sontrulvus is stated to be a High Elf who immigrated from Ulthuan to Altdorf centuries ago. He's not one of the Asrai.
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The Asur haven't really cared about their cousins in the woods for a few millennia, which means the Long March barely means something to them.
 
Like, elves are disliked by the common folk, yes, but among nobles Sontrulvus probably catches more flak because the most likely course of his history is that he was naturalised as an Imperial citizen in Marienburg (there's an elven enclave there), making him technically a Wastelander - albeit from centuries before the secession. But he's not in Marienburg now, so he probably sets that at ease by loudly proclaiming that the whole succession business is bunk, never would've happened in my day, the Emperor should raise an army to put an end to the whole business, grumble grumble.
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The Asur haven't really cared about their cousins in the woods for a few millennia, which means the Long March barely means something to them.
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Yes. The Long March is an Asur institution. The Asrai are completely irrelevant to this discussion.
 
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Archon of Ghosts said:
So why is this there if he's an Asur?
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Because the Long March is an Asur institution, as described by Johanna's character sheet ("Inhuman Drillmaster: You spent years as a firsthand witness to the impossibly fluid coordination of the Asur,"), and by me, the guy who wrote this piece of fanon. Additionally, again, Sontrulvus is not Asur anymore. He's an Imperial citizen - if any elven term fits, it's Asthoi.
 
I mean my reason for voting for @Imrix's plan is that I know him off-site, and my involvement in this quest is driven almost entirely by how @Swordomatic enlisted me to help plan it. Which I did. It was fun.

(I know what was in the mystery box, and I'm slightly disappointed it didn't get voted for)
 
Maugan Ra said:
I mean my reason for voting for @Imrix's plan is that I know him off-site, and my involvement in this quest is driven almost entirely by how @Swordomatic enlisted me to help plan it. Which I did. It was fun.

(I know what was in the mystery box, and I'm slightly disappointed it didn't get voted for)
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Pretty sure it was voted for. Imrix's plan had it in it last time I checked, and Imrix won the first vote (I think).
 
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