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Libra's Lament, a Magical Girl Quest [Complete]

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justinkal said:
My point is that we don't know what Speed Gap does.

It could do something like letting Sun get in melee range of her enemies no matter how fast they are, or it could give a big bonus when Sun is a lot faster than her enemy, or it could let her move faster when dodging, etc.

I just want to make sure that it isn't something that makes Flight levels less useful before investing in Flight.

Same thing with Shining Protector. If it lets Moon throw herself in the path of attacks aimed at allies (even if she'd normally be too slow to do so), or if it makes it so that whenever an ally gets hurt the HP is deducted from Moon instead of from that ally, then the benefits of raising Flight are reduced.


Those scenarios don't make raising Flight useless, but they do make raising it less useful than it would be otherwise.
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And my point is that we need Speed from flight not just for our defense, but for our offense too. Even if we can defend ourself and avoiding beeing hit, we wont be able too win if the enemy still outspeeds us.
We have not enough ATP anyway too dodge long enough. (which is that I want to raise the ATP too, together with the scepters)
Getting Sun into melee-range towards the enemy would be the worst. Eva is the one who does stand near the enemy and Rico throws her spells.

We cant just know it until we buy it, BUT "Gap" as an example is really expensive and what is if it works well with flight?
Buying "Gap" could pay of more if we dont have flight-levels, but it could be the other way around too. Therefore I want a decent base-speed, so that we wont be within trouble because we are too slow now.
 
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DarkKing98 said:
This is what I think Speed Gap does. Slamming a multiplier on the Flight Speed. Which, in conjunction of assuming that much higher speed damage boost from Crystalwatcher's quest is in effect here, makes it a great benefit.
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If all we had to go off of was the ability's name, I would assume that it indeed does that.

The description though implies otherwise.
Light moves faster than anything else... but you can not do the same.
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That specifically states that we can't be the fastest thing around. That implies to me that the ability is designed to either change that (make us become faster than our enemies) or that it is designed to help us deal with enemies who are faster than us (bonus when fighting things faster than yourself).

It makes it sound like an ability designed to overcome speed gaps, rather than an ability designed to exploit speed gaps.
 
justinkal said:
If all we had to go off of was the ability's name, I would assume that it indeed does that.

The description though implies otherwise.

That specifically states that we can't be the fastest thing around. That implies to me that the ability is designed to either change that (make us become faster than our enemies) or that it is designed to help us deal with enemies who are faster than us (bonus when fighting things faster than yourself).

It makes it sound like an ability designed to overcome speed gaps, rather than an ability designed to exploit speed gaps.
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Eh, I read it differently. I read it as a we aren't that fast yet kind of thing and that it's merely lamenting that fact.

Interesting how two different people can perceive something, no?
Adhoc vote count started by DarkKing98 on Mar 1, 2018 at 2:17 PM, finished with 3254 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Even though you did not know any of the girls, you feel like you should attend the funeral.
    [X] Soldier Supreme should be awake by now. You kind of kidnapped her, so maybe you should go and say sorry for that?
    [X] Check on White Glory; she knows no one else here, so she may like a friend or two
    [X] See if Strength has some time to talk or play; you never really got to do that, now that you think about it
    [X] You need to always be on your guard; training can never hurt
    -[X] get the collateral damage from sun's standard attack under control
    [X] EXP-Plan protector
    -[X] Shining Protector (200)
    [X] Plan Meetings and Eplosions
    -[X] Check on White Glory; she knows no one else here, so she may like a friend or two
    -[X] Soldier Supreme should be awake by now. You kind of kidnapped her, so maybe you should go and say sorry for that?
    -[X] You need to always be on your guard; training can never hurt
    --[X] Figure out how to stop Rico's explosions from hitting Eva
    [X] EXP Plan Independence!
    -[X] Primordial Legacy [Rico]
    -[X] Moonlight Scepter Level 10
    -[X] Self-Sufficiency
    [X] EXP-Plan Moonrise (730 EXP)
    -[X] Moonlight Scepter 5-10 (350 EXP)
    -[X] Radiant Conductor (180 EXP)
    -[X] Shining Protector (200 EXP)
    [X] EXP-Plan Fixing The Connection
    -[X] Absolute Connection - 650 XP
    -[X] Primordial Legacy(Sun) - 300 XP
    -[X] Primordial Legacy(Moon) - 300 XP
    [X] EXP-Plan Fixing The Connection - Glimpse Variation
    -[X] Absolute Connection - 650 XP
    -[X] Primordial Legacy(Moon) - 300 XP
    [X] EXP Plan Near and Far (1500 EXP)
    -[X] Absolute Connection
    -[X] Primordial Legacy (Moon)
    -[X] Primordial Legacy (Sun)
    -[X] Shining Protector
    [X] EXP-Plan Fixing The Connection
    [X] Explore the sewers by yourselves; there has to be something neat there
    [X] Take a walk through the city; no set goal, just some time to breathe and relax
    [X] EXP-Plan "dont be a Jack of all trades" (1620)
    -[X] Solar Blessing 5 -> 10 (350)
    -[X] Sunlight Scepter 10 -> 12 (210)
    -[X] Radiant Shine Unbroken (650)
    -[X] Flight (both) 4 -> 5 (80)
    -[X] Shining Protector (200)
    -[X] Veil of the lunar Goddess 13 -> 14 (130)
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justinkal said:
If all we had to go off of was the ability's name, I would assume that it indeed does that.

The description though implies otherwise.

That specifically states that we can't be the fastest thing around. That implies to me that the ability is designed to either change that (make us become faster than our enemies) or that it is designed to help us deal with enemies who are faster than us (bonus when fighting things faster than yourself).

It makes it sound like an ability designed to overcome speed gaps, rather than an ability designed to exploit speed gaps.
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It is most likely the latter, but leveling up flight would most likely do the same but isnt that expensive.
Gap would pay of if the enemy is much more faster than us but even then flight wont cost as much in comparison.
 
DarkKing98 said:
Eh, I read it differently. I read it as a we aren't that fast yet kind of thing and that it's merely lamenting that fact.

Interesting how two different people can perceive something, no?
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Another way I could see it being read is that the description is basically being said IC by Sun.

"I am the sun. I am light. You are not light. Therefore I am faster than you".
 
I must admit, I REALLY want these two to become independent. I'm scared of their dependency on the other. Of the fact that if an opponent can take us by surprise and manage to separate the two. It honestly scares me. The kind of damage that can happen to us if it happens. I like the lack of death we've been having so far.
 
DarkKing98 said:
I must admit, I REALLY want these two to become independent. I'm scared of their dependency on the other. Of the fact that if an opponent can take us by surprise and manage to separate the two. It honestly scares me. The kind of damage that can happen to us if it happens. I like the lack of death we've been having so far.
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I am working really hard on that last thing and until now I managed it somehow, but if the enemy seperates us in a way that our connection cant bring them together within a short span of time we are fucked anyway, because the enemy would exploit all of our weak points. That wouldnt be something Naron would do. That would just be unfair.
 
Dragou said:
I am working really hard on that last thing and until now I managed it somehow, but if the enemy seperates us in a way that our connection cant bring them together within a short span of time we are fucked anyway, because the enemy would exploit all of our weak points. That wouldnt be something Naron would do. That would just be unfair.
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I disagree. We have items in the shop that explicitly state that weakness exists. Items we can buy. The longer we neglect them, the more justifiable it is to somehow split us up. Because we'd have had a chance, multiple chances in fact, to mitigate somewhat those problems.
 
DarkKing98 said:
I disagree. We have items in the shop that explicitly state that weakness exists. Items we can buy. The longer we neglect them, the more justifiable it is to somehow split us up. Because we'd have had a chance, multiple chances in fact, to mitigate somewhat those problems.
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But that is our knowledge and ingame it would be unfair and therefore Naron wont do it. Just because they are within the shop wont say that they are needed. That just gives us other options and how we can handle things. Assuming that without reason ist just paranoia.
 
The twins ALWAYS either work together or with another person. It would then make sense, to isolate the two from everyone else. I'm thinking of someone who has seen what they have done. Or are at least aware of it.

And I'm still paranoid about Eye of Truth. If she knows that was Bianca, well, she might want to get some revenge.
 
DarkKing98 said:
The twins ALWAYS either work together or with another person. It would then make sense, to isolate the two from everyone else. I'm thinking of someone who has seen what they have done. Or are at least aware of it.

And I'm still paranoid about Eye of Truth. If she knows that was Bianca, well, she might want to get some revenge.
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That would be the unfair thing. WHO knows how we fight and HOW should others know about that? Keeping us unable to meet with each other and seperate us in that way in the first fight right at the start would be exploiting our weaknesses. We arent as famous as the Seasons, therefore the enemy has no chance of knowing this.

Besides Eye of thruth can just see abilitys and so on, not how her real name is or how she looks untransformed. Besides the thing that Naron stated.
 
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Naron said:
...trying to hurt the stupidly powerful Magical Girl that crushed the strongest girl she knew in a matter of seconds might not be conductive to her continued survival.
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True. But has revenge ever been RATIONAL?
Dragou said:
That would be the unfair thing. WHO knows how we fight and HOW should others know about that? Keeping us unable to meet with each other and seperate us in that way in the first fight right at the start would be exploiting our weaknesses. We arent as famous as the Seasons, therefore the enemy has no chance of knowing this.
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...China?
 
Naron said:
You should ask yourself what exactly the Chinese saw of you.
Seeing Rico not take damage from Soldier Supreme, or Sky batting her down, or Ana melt the ground... how would they even start to guess at the twins' specialty from that?
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Ignore that. I'm tired of arguing. I want to try to let my paranoia rest.
 
This looks interesting.

[X] Even though you did not know any of the girls, you feel like you should attend the funeral.
[X] Check on White Glory; she knows no one else here, so she may like a friend or two
[X] Soldier Supreme should be awake by now. You kind of kidnapped her, so maybe you should go and say sorry for that?

[X] EXP-Plan Upgrade
-[X] Upgrade Scorching Sunlight to level 10 (90 XP)
-[X] Upgrade Supernova to level 5 (30 + 40 XP)
-[X] Upgrade Soothing Moonlight to level 10 (80 + 90 XP)
-[X] Upgrade Become Whole Again to level 5 (30 + 40 XP)
-[X] Purchase Moonlight Scepter: Judgement (100 XP)
-[X] Purchase Radiant Conductor (180 XP)
90 + 30 + 40 + 80 + 90 + 30 + 40 + 100 + 180 = 680 XP Spent
1620 - 680 = 940 XP Remaining

Ok, so here are my thoughts:
For the actions, I'm curious about White Glory and Soldier Supreme is all, and I feel like attending the funeral is something that should happen. As for the XP spending, I'm just suggesting all the individual spells to the nearest milestone, and making two minor purchases. The Moonlight Scepter upgrade gives a nice upgrade to Moon in case she runs into something like Sun's Veil on an enemy, while I'm curious as to how Radiant Conductor will manifest. Plus, it leaves us a large amount of XP for the next few updates.
 
Hmmm.

I suppose now is the time to start the back-room deals and negotiating for votes.

So far as I can see, exp-plan "Fixing the Connection" is in the lead with 2 votes total. Another exp-plan, "Near and Far" by kinigget, is highly similar except that it also gives Shining Protector - something I desire.

Both plans purchase Primordial Legacy for both girls, and Absolute Connection.

[X] kinigget

I will throw my support after a winning exp-plan that has Shining Protector. It is now a draw, 2 votes each.

@kinigget, just a notice - the final cost should be 1450 exp, leaving us with 170. Not 1500.
Adhoc vote count started by Faraway-R on Mar 2, 2018 at 1:29 AM, finished with 3268 posts and 10 votes.
  • [X] Even though you did not know any of the girls, you feel like you should attend the funeral.
    [X] Soldier Supreme should be awake by now. You kind of kidnapped her, so maybe you should go and say sorry for that?
    [X] Check on White Glory; she knows no one else here, so she may like a friend or two
    [X] EXP Plan Near and Far (1500 EXP)
    -[X] Absolute Connection
    -[X] Primordial Legacy (Moon)
    -[X] Primordial Legacy (Sun)
    -[X] Shining Protector
    [X] EXP-Plan Fixing The Connection
    -[X] Absolute Connection - 650 XP
    -[X] Primordial Legacy(Sun) - 300 XP
    -[X] Primordial Legacy(Moon) - 300 XP
    [X] See if Strength has some time to talk or play; you never really got to do that, now that you think about it
    [X] You need to always be on your guard; training can never hurt
    -[X] get the collateral damage from sun's standard attack under control
    [X] EXP-Plan protector
    -[X] Shining Protector (200)
    [X] Plan Meetings and Eplosions
    -[X] Check on White Glory; she knows no one else here, so she may like a friend or two
    -[X] Soldier Supreme should be awake by now. You kind of kidnapped her, so maybe you should go and say sorry for that?
    -[X] You need to always be on your guard; training can never hurt
    --[X] Figure out how to stop Rico's explosions from hitting Eva
    [X] EXP Plan Independence!
    -[X] Primordial Legacy [Rico]
    -[X] Moonlight Scepter Level 10
    -[X] Self-Sufficiency
    [X] EXP-Plan Fixing The Connection - Glimpse Variation
    -[X] Absolute Connection - 650 XP
    -[X] Primordial Legacy(Moon) - 300 XP
    [X] Explore the sewers by yourselves; there has to be something neat there
    [X] Take a walk through the city; no set goal, just some time to breathe and relax
    [X] EXP-Plan "dont be a Jack of all trades" (1620)
    -[X] Solar Blessing 5 -> 10 (350)
    -[X] Sunlight Scepter 10 -> 12 (210)
    -[X] Radiant Shine Unbroken (650)
    -[X] Flight (both) 4 -> 5 (80)
    -[X] Shining Protector (200)
    -[X] Veil of the lunar Goddess 13 -> 14 (130)
    [X] EXP-Plan Upgrade
    -[X] Upgrade Scorching Sunlight to level 10 (90 XP)
    -[X] Upgrade Supernova to level 5 (30 + 40 XP)
    -[X] Upgrade Soothing Moonlight to level 10 (80 + 90 XP)
    -[X] Upgrade Become Whole Again to level 5 (30 + 40 XP)
    -[X] Purchase Moonlight Scepter: Judgement (100 XP)
    -[X] Purchase Radiant Conductor (180 XP)
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...huh, did I do the math wrong? or are the Primordial Legacies actually the same cost?
 
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[X] EXP Plan Stronger Together
-[X] Absolute Connection
-[X] Otherworldly Radiance
-[X] Solar Blessing 5 -> 10
-[X] Shining Protector

[X] Even though you did not know any of the girls, you feel like you should attend the funeral.
[X] You need to always be on your guard; training can never hurt
-[X] get the collateral damage from sun's standard attack under control
[X] Check on White Glory; she knows no one else here, so she may like a friend or two

Let's get the Shining Protector and prepare for some other abilities.
 
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[X] Even though you did not know any of the girls, you feel like you should attend the funeral.
[X] Check on White Glory; she knows no one else here, so she may like a friend or two
[X] Soldier Supreme should be awake by now. You kind of kidnapped her, so maybe you should go and say sorry for that?

[X] EXP-Plan Fixing The Connection
 
[X] Even though you did not know any of the girls, you feel like you should attend the funeral.
[X] Check on White Glory; she knows no one else here, so she may like a friend or two
[X] Soldier Supreme should be awake by now. You kind of kidnapped her, so maybe you should go and say sorry for that?

[X] EXP Plan Near and Far (1500 EXP)
-[X] Absolute Connection
-[X] Primordial Legacy (Moon)
-[X] Primordial Legacy (Sun)
-[X] Shining Protector
 
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