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Terminus Quest: A CKII Mass Effect Quest
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- USA
[X] Plan Kan It
- Location
- South of North
[X] Plan Kan It
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I hate to open this again, but it's more just planning for irrationality and the worst than really taking them seriously. Again, they're not a credible threat as anything other than a terrorist group analogue. (Thanks, @Enjou for that perspective.) They cannot fight a war or exist as anything other than a nuisance if they act rationally.
It's if they act irrationally, as a cornered animal, that they become dangerous. "Nothing to lose," and all that.
I think they are crazy people that are going to do something crazy. Why I was for back lash in the first place. I have dealt with to many crazy people in real life not to take them seriously.
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Their
The thing is, it doesn't matter what their full hand is. Even if they had games-era ME tech, they are so small that it just doesn't matter.
They have a population equal to .16% of ours.
They have a population that equals only a fortieth of our standing army.
Our half strength raiding fleets have more ships of the same type and quality than they do.
Our beaten and battered allies have more ships of a better design in their half strength fleet.
They are not a credible, rational threat. Only if they act irrationally are they dangerous. They have a bit of a history of irrationality.
NavySeel
"I don't know what I'm doing."
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- Places
Yeah they're clearly an entire civilization of 10 million suicidal maniacs.
kelgar04
Knight Watcher
- Location
- Here and no were
True but their very irrationality means they could pull something we don't expect.
oh well at least we aren't dealing with fanatics.
- Location
- Aotearoa
Came here to say this. Locking all our Military next turn... does not seem prudent.
[X] Plan Kan It
- Location
- Aotearoa
Well, the only outside observer here are the Quarians, who are probably predisposed to like us. And... what innocence are we trying to claim? We're pissed off and showing it.
The only other military options are more aggressive, or lock us out next turn.
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- Location
- the Moon
- Pronouns
- He/Him
We're trying to convince the Lystheni that we don't want to blow up their stuff and kill all their dudes. So that they don't do something dumb like blow up our shipyards with saboteurs
- Location
- Aotearoa
I have sympathy with your position... but our options are First Strike, lock out all Military options next turn, or this. I'd prefer some third Martial one-year option, myself.
Personally I think we're trying to convince the Lystheni that they've fucking pissed us off and need to cut out their bullshit yesterday if they want to survive as an independent polity.
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
We aren't claiming innocence. We don't need to. We have enough evidence that even the Elcor would go to war, according to Shurna. What we are showing, is restraint; the ability to act rationally and commit to even the last shreds of diplomacy before hitting the red button.
Also Putin invaded Crimea, he didn't just put forces on the border. Crimea also hadn't violated treaties. Russia also wasn't defending against an existential threat. Apples and oranges, man. Let's also avoid some messy politics, yeah?
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I'd like to point out that the Diplomacy option to demand talks with the Lystheni implicitly threatens war against them if they don't do what we demand of them. That is easily as provocative as stationing ships on their border.
