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[ ] Go. Pull the 3rd out. [Assault the Nubian Expanse and attempt to clear a path for the 3rd RWF.]

Well, this sounds like the best option for the present. If we are to prove our worth as a peer of the others, let us by all means do so.
 
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If Terminus forces try to punch through to the Hades Nexus, then they will try to take Phoenix Massing (basically their only option for that offensive). If they are successful and we take Nubian Expanse, then we will be able to link not only with Terminus, but also with Rannoch if Far Rim didn't fall to Rachni yet. And if Far Rim fell, then it will be cut off from rest of Rachni forces and between Terminus (and us) and Quarians.

Edit: Well, Terminus offensive can also be Caleston Rift - Nubian Expanse - Hades Nexus, but it looks pretty nonsensical to me in that case without knowledge of Virmire survival.

Edit2: Love how all politicians (Council and Batarian Hegemon) didn't say anything except platitudes, but fleet commanders actually gave us actionable intel.

Edit3: forgot to vote.
Edit4: oh, moratorium
 
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If Virmirean forces are in position to strike at the Nubian Expanse, we might be able to link up.
WE ARE BURNING FOR THE RELAY TO THE NUBIAN EXPANSE NOW! BE THERE OR WE DIE! SEND AID NOW!
Different relay man. But it might help us get our fleet into gear so we can support a beachhead or we might get our fleet mauled at a critical juncture.
...they are? I mean, I'm not exactly a scholar of ME lore, but it seems odd to have two different relays named the same thing... I quoted the text again for emphasis and underlined the parts where it refers to a relay by the same name.
 
[x] Go. Pull the 3rd out. [Assault the Nubian Expanse and attempt to clear a path for the 3rd RWF.]

Let's do this.
TWO-HOUR MORATORIUM. THIS VOTE HAS NOT YET CLOSED.

Every time.

EDIT: Btw Poptart, you haven't changed the description for the Council under the Diplomacy->Attention tab:
Council: 1. They almost certainly believe you to be dead to the last child, but they won't be able to miss the Rachni's reaction to the Battle of Hercules. They will know that somebody is causing trouble out there, and will be on the lookout -- although, come to think, they'll probably think it's the quarians. They were just as cut off, last you knew.
 
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[ ] Stand by. It's time the Explorer Corps had its trial by fire. [Fledgling Explorer Corps fleet makes a jump to the Nubian Expanse and tries to establish contact with the 3rd RWF. Commit fleets if and only if the 3rd is able to reach the Nubian Expanse. Hero Unit Kurik will be committed to this option, contributing his full Martial score. High chance of unit losses.]

This is the option of the day I think.

If the 3rd RWF does not make it to the Nubian Expanse and we have already committed ships then we will be dangerously out of position. Like critically holy fuck the rachni can come into Attican from two other relays that are on the way to major fronts. See the map:

If we get embroiled, reinforcements will come and some of them will go though Attican.
This seems a real risk, but the benefits of gaining another fleet and perhaps contact with Terminus would be great and enormous, repectively.

I wonder if the Explorers could do the opposite, go look out for Rachni at these other relays? Maroon and Hades Gamma-or is that just suicide?
 
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Oh, and -10% public approval from vetoing the Bill of Declaration.
Expected a negative backlash from that Veto, hopefully we survive the wave. (Players never listening to reason)


-More importantly, WE MADE CONTACT! Now multiple factions (Citadel{and Asari, Salarians, + few associated}, Batarians, TERMINUS, Quarians) know we're alive and might actually start to fight back in coordinated fashion. But that's for later now WE MUST HELP QUARIANS!!!

Oh, look, you found what was going on behind the curtain. Y'know, what with me rolling that 93 and everything.
Translation: THEY'RE ALIVE! Many factions and clusterfuck situation! Both good and bad.


If it's possible Can we send both our Fleet and Explorer Corps? One is a hammer meant to blunt the enemy, while the other is a knife that strikes with (relative) precession.

Right now Nubian Expanse is an "nexus point" and we can be relatively certain that Su'val heard what others said as well, they know what's happening with the Quarian Fleet, and if we come then they could also assist: Rachni are preoccupied AND reinforcements are coming, best situation in a bad moment.

I say we commit everything:
[ ] Write-in:
-[ ] Send Explorer Corps and 1st Battle Fleet and 1st Raiding Fleet. Pull the 3RD Rannoch war fleet and bloody the Rachni. [It's possible Terminus Joint Fleets are coming, so let's give Rachni hell.]
 
The best thing about this is that the Expanse opens up to Attican Beta (us), Hades' (where Terminus is aiming) and caleston (presumably where the Quarians are coming from). Hades' is a two link system and would be held by a friendly polity if Terminus succeeds. In short, in the event that we succeed in taking the Expanse, we do not increase the number of fronts we're facing, in addition to collecting an allied fleet and linking up with another friendly force.

I like the idea of going for it.
 
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Expected a negative backlash from that Veto, hopefully we survive the wave. (Players never listening to reason)


-More importantly, WE MADE CONTACT! Now multiple factions (Citadel{and Asari, Salarians, + few associated}, Batarians, TERMINUS, Quarians) know we're alive and might actually start to fight back in coordinated fashion. But that's for later now WE MUST HELP QUARIANS!!!


Translation: THEY'RE ALIVE! Many factions and clusterfuck situation! Both good and bad.


If it's possible Can we send both our Fleet and Explorer Corps? One is a hammer meant to blunt the enemy, while the other is a knife that strikes with (relative) precession.

Right now Nubian Expanse is an "nexus point" and we can be relatively certain that Su'val heard what others said as well, they know what's happening with the Quarian Fleet, and if we come then they could also assist: Rachni are preoccupied AND reinforcements are coming, best situation in a bad moment.

I say we commit everything:
[ ] Write-in:
-[ ] Send Explorer Corps and 1st Battle Fleet and 1st Raiding Fleet. Pull the 3RD Rannoch war fleet and bloody the Rachni. [It's possible Terminus Joint Fleets are coming, so let's give Rachni hell.]
Hmm, it seems the Explorers are currently negligible military strength, given that we are still forming them. Contact 3RWF, messenger or jump-point watcher duties, perhaps. Not a line-of-battle fleet.

I'd rather a write-in that they keep watch, with a brief to either get word to our forces if the Rachni do attack Attican, or if possible serve as advanced scouts in Maroon and Hades Gamma, if there is a way to do that without them just dying.
 
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Hrrm the Terminus are presumably planning to go for Phoenix Massing to link up with Rannoch.
Strategically, pushing on to Hades would give them an extra front, bad unless they were planning to rescue 3RWF.
Good chance then the Terminus have intel, not fighting blind.
Be nice if we could gain access to that intel.
Sadly, I dont think we have the force to take and hold the Nubian Expanse, probably rescuing the 3RWF is what we are realistically capable of right now.
In other news, a recent push against Citadel has to have drawn down Rachni fleets elsewhere, a good time for us to get aggressive.
 
...they are? I mean, I'm not exactly a scholar of ME lore, but it seems odd to have two different relays named the same thing... I quoted the text again for emphasis and underlined the parts where it refers to a relay by the same name.
They are assaulting the Hades Nexus so I assumed that they wanted to meet up in the Nexus.

Having reread the wording it looks like they are talking about punching through the Nexus and grouping up with us to hit the Expanse which honestly dosen't make sense to me.

Shouldn't they be planning to clear out the three clusters they cut off? Unless they think they're not worth their time and would prefer to hit the systems connected to the main force of the rachni or know about the Quarians.
 
Hrrm the Terminus are presumably planning to go for Phoenix Massing to link up with Rannoch.
Strategically, pushing on to Hades would give them an extra front, bad unless they were planning to rescue 3RWF.
Good chance then the Terminus have intel, not fighting blind.
Be nice if we could gain access to that intel.
Sadly, I dont think we have the force to take and hold the Nubian Expanse, probably rescuing the 3RWF is what we are realistically capable of right now.
In other news, a recent push against Citadel has to have drawn down Rachni fleets elsewhere, a good time for us to get aggressive.
Choosing moments to go aggressive (and then having moderate good luck) is likely the only way we survive the Rachni. This seems like one of those opportunities. Is there any way to mitigate the risks? The Rachni would have got that transmission too.
 
So, I'm going to ask @PoptartProdigy, is there anything with a reasonable risk-reward balance our fledgling Explorer fleet could do to get us more advanced notice if the Rachni *did* come through Maroon and/or Hades Gamma during this op? Or does this necessarily involve jumping through those relays and being blown up inmediately?

Specifically the goal would be to get swift(er) notice to the battle and raiding fleets of any attack. Even by the sneaky Lystheni...

Hmm, now I'm thinking this is maybe similar to the 'raiding fleet recovery' stage of our Raiding doctrine? Attack an enemy held relay sufficiently to let an a friendly fleet (3RWF) come through? Would approaching it like that give us a higher chance of success, given our current doctrinal advantage? We know the 'window', it's 'now', right? Also, If we get to the relay, could we send a periodic stream of comms bouys through to let the 3RWF know we're engaged but holding the relay clear on the other side?
 
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For several long moments stretching into minutes, there is silence. Nobody dares to speak as the channel crackles quietly. You take a swift and silent breath, swallowing. You see one of the salarian techs literally dripping with sweat.
You can feel the fear that the Rachni had wiped out the Citadel.

"This is Fleet Admiral Samaer of the Salarian First Fleet. Be aware that the rachni have just recently halted a massive offensive into Citadel space. Citadel forces are recovering and not presently in position to go on the offensive. We- one moment, transferring you to the Citadel Council."
And the relief.
Lol at the Batarian Hegemony leader though; you can almost feel the silent irritation of the Citadel councillors from here.
"This is President Banari Su'val of Omega, sitting Joint Commander of the Terminus Joint Fleets. As of three weeks ago, we began an offensive with the aim of punching through to to the Hades Nexus. If Virmirean forces are in position to strike at the Nubian Expanse, we might be able to link up."
Potential opportunities here.
Especially if we do sufficient damage to their logistics lines.

Data begins to stream into your PDA after a moment as he opts to bounce the team's results directly to you.
Omnitool?

You nod. "Durrahe, I need you to send out an emergency notice that we may soon be supporting thousands-to-millions of dextro-acid persons with delicate immune systems requiring emergency care. Do whatever you can to brace."
And I am once again thankful that we invested so heavily in medicine, and managed to crit on top of that.
We're going to need it. Especially if there are, as I suspect, refugees with that fleet.
I can't think of many reasons a battle fleet would be trapped behind enemy lines, and attempting to evac a colony world is one of them.

Oh, and -10% public approval from vetoing the Bill of Declaration.
Worth it.

Well, time to go bid on a slightly used battle fleet.

1)The Rachni are just done with a massive offensive, and if the Citadel is in no position for a major offensive, the Rachni will also be on the back foot of rebuilding, repairing, rearming and readjusting their supply lines.
2) We have fortifications on both the Hades Gamma and Maroon Sea Relays, and if the current map is accurate, the Hades Gamma cluster of systems can't easily reconnect to Rachni space.
3) The ping indicates there are relatively few Rachni forces on the Nebula and Maroon Relays.
We have relatively up to date data on Rachni deployments in the surrounding clusters, and they don't know how many ships we have available.
Given how they lost 3 dreads in Attican Beta, that predisposes to caution.

4) We just pinged the Rachni comm network. Our threat rating is about to go up significantly, whether we pull this off or not.
Which means we are going to need the oomph to deal with significantly greater Rachni attention immediately.

We are going to have to spend a ton on logistics next turn, aren't we?
My poor budget plan:cry:
Moratorium is over.

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[X] Go. Pull the 3rd out. [Assault the Nubian Expanse and attempt to clear a path for the 3rd RWF.]

I assume Mira's going? Because I suspect we're gonna need that Martial 24
 
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[X] Go. Pull the 3rd out. [Assault the Nubian Expanse and attempt to clear a path for the 3rd RWF.]

We need to be decisive here, and the explorer expedition is not decisive enough if the Quarians remotely have a limited window.
 
[X] Go. Pull the 3rd out. [Assault the Nubian Expanse and attempt to clear a path for the 3rd RWF.]
 
[X] Go. Pull the 3rd out. [Assault the Nubian Expanse and attempt to clear a path for the 3rd RWF.]

I'm alarmed by the Citadel admiral's exact words: "Rachni halted major offensive". Not "we beat back Rachni's major offensive". That implies that Rachni could press further, but chose not to. That may mean their desire to repair and resupply, as @uju32 says, but that can also mean that they are shifting targets and relocating those fleets elsewhere. Problem is, "elsewhere" may very well include us.
 
[X] Go. Pull the 3rd out. [Assault the Nubian Expanse and attempt to clear a path for the 3rd RWF.]

Concur. Even if we can't rescue the 3RWF it is a good time to do aggro.
 
I'm alarmed by the Citadel admiral's exact words: "Rachni halted major offensive". Not "we beat back Rachni's major offensive". That implies that Rachni could press further, but chose not to. That may mean their desire to repair and resupply, as @uju32 says, but that can also mean that they are shifting targets and relocating those fleets elsewhere. Problem is, "elsewhere" may very well include us.
Salarians are precise about these things; doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Besides, we pinged their comm buoy network; we have a good idea of just how far they've expanded. If Mira isn't freaking out IC, no reason for us to.
GM will update maps in her own good time.
 
[X] Go. Pull the 3rd out. [Assault the Nubian Expanse and attempt to clear a path for the 3rd RWF.]
 
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