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White Wolf's World of Darkness
vicky_molokh
Posthuman spidery thingy.
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- Kyïv, Ukraine
Difficulty of the science is not the same as the complexity of the entity that is covered by the science.
It's more of a 'build the tools to build the tools to build the tools' thing: you don't need to be skilled at building the whole chain, but each link depends on the previous ones, and someone has to build each link, even if each link is built by a different specialist.
Generalissimo
Generalissimo of SufficientVelocity
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Catholics are cool.
Catholics as portrayed by White Wolf - not exactly flattering.
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Seriously, a patron saint of the internet?
"As I surf through /b/, my mouse shall not tremble, for my faith is my shield and shall guard me from porn and dank memes"?
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Ignore Catholics as written by White Wolf. White Wolf shouldn't be left near religion without a gag and straitjacket.
Yup, let faith be your shield against the trolls.
Generalissimo
Generalissimo of SufficientVelocity
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- Tropico, Tropico
Might have to make a point of snubbing the inquisition at some point.
That settles it!
Going to play a Catholic-Not-Inquisition-Sorcerer who going to heal the heck out of everyone.
Your insight proved incredibly insightful.
That neatly explains how I can be hanging out with other blatant Sorcerers of madly differing philosophies.
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I aim to please. ^_^
It's almost as if the Catholic Church as been flanderized to death and really deserves better.
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- United States
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Wait wait wait there's a Saint of cannons and explosives?
That is METAL AS FUCK.
"Protestants, bow before our superior cannon!"
"Wait, she means canon ri-*BOOM*"
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Yup, Saint Barbara is amazing.
Remember that Saints baaasically fulfill the same role as gods do in most animistic religions, since you pray to the saints and then they go and speak to the Lord for you, who then might intervene for you.
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You can definitely see the Henotheistic roots in the Abrahamic religions.
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Very much, just like animism used to be pretty normal in most European religions, and then everyone forgot about it and think it's a primarily Asian thing.
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- BaWü
This is not official, but Johanes Paul II had the idea that the internet needs a saint and was trying to find out if Isidor could be the one.
There are saints for radio and tv but the internet has till now no one.
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One thing to think about. Or, I was thinking about Chinese Mages and history and I just thought:
The Taiping Rebellion is an actual event that would make sense as being Mage run, but not any of the other splats as far as I can see in either now or old world of darkness.
I mean, their leader had a dream telling him he was the brother of Jesus, and started a series of bloody, horrific wars gathering followers to attempt to create a Kingdom under heaven. Like, that pings my nMage *and* oMage buttons really hard.
The Taiping Rebellion is an actual event that would make sense as being Mage run, but not any of the other splats as far as I can see in either now or old world of darkness.
I mean, their leader had a dream telling him he was the brother of Jesus, and started a series of bloody, horrific wars gathering followers to attempt to create a Kingdom under heaven. Like, that pings my nMage *and* oMage buttons really hard.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Anyone have any thoughts on porting Mage the Ascension to StoryPath?
Anyone interested in writing it with me?
Anyone interested in writing it with me?
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oh come on no boxer rebellion?
your mage-fu is weak
Taiping Rebellion is someone having a dream by god (*cough* Obrimos *cough*) and then leading a massive rebellion to overthrow authority.
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Contempt and Zeal work just as well.
Hmm. I may need to get a bunch of totems, fetishes, and medals of saints
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There are websites I could recommend. *waggles eyebrows*
Actually, I wonder how Consensus works with mind control. Like, hypnosis. A lot of people think it's full of shit. More people than probably should think it's totally valid. So I'm not sure where Consensus would...holy shit, now I'm doing it?!
I'm turning, aren't I? The bite is finally getting to me. Someone shoot me please, spare me from devouring this thread that I love once I become one of the undead.
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Whatever. And NOT THAT KIND OF FETISH
UrsaTempest
Don't Panic!
I like nMage system, but I'm still eternally confused how to run Technocracy-focused campaign with Death as discrete sphere.
(also, how do I port Primal Utility and Dimensional Science?)
(also, how do I port Primal Utility and Dimensional Science?)
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This one is actually easy.
Hypnosis it's clearly non-consensual, since normal people can't practice it, but is acepted enough to be used as a coincidental foci by Mages or practiced by Sorcerers. (Aka, people actually trained to do it).
(That said, don't think much it. oMage posits that people more or less believe the same things that in the real world, than laws are determined by consensus, and that the consensus-laws are more or less the same than real physical laws.
Obviously, no more than two of those can be true.)
Yeah.
In oMage, mages being at the front of movements of such caliber is basically a given (Since oMages are basically Important People).
In nMage, that doesn't apply, but the taiping rebellion is probably still the work of a particulary unwise ladderite or a Seer.
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Well running a game with a technocrat that has death, even if its the backport into the oWoD here there are a number of things for that @dragonx99 is doing so so he might have a few more comments even if the char has .. a number of problems that nearly lead to @MJ12 Commando ventilating her head.
For one it is the study of a particular subdimension that you are doing here, for another you can combine it with life and go all Herbert west on things there.
A third is that you are not a orthodox member of the union as you are using it , and it is seen as a variant of the dimensional Science stuff. Basically Realtivity and Quantum while trying to find the GUT.
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Aaron Peori
Rest in Peace
Simple: Death equals "Uploaded Consciousness". The soul is just an algorithm running on wetware, consciousness is just an emergent property of neurological phenomena. Ghosts are just someone copy-pasting a human consciousness into a hardware it was not normally able to run on. Thus you can use Conciousness Emulation to create a perfect simulation of the identity of a dead person and do stuff like run it on your mainframe and ask it questions or use it to run a HitMark. You're not reviving the dead to turn them into zombies, you're reactivating motor functions by bypassing damaged nerves and brain cells using pinpoint electrical discharges/nanites/targeted viruses and preventing decay through various preservation methods.
Free-floating 'ghosts' are not actual ghosts, they are imprints left in highly sophisticated field phenomena that the Masses aren't ready to understand yet. Reality is full of all sorts of hyperspatial dimensions full of exotic EM/quantum events that can imprint a human simulation and 'run' it but they are extremely unreliable and cause the subject to degrade rapidly over time and even fade away, by researching this we can understand how to replicate it reliably with reproducible technology.
The Underworld is not a realm of the dead, just a larger than normal sub-space cyst full of degenerate matter and fields which produce philosophical zombies which emulate human beings but aren't actually humans.
dragonx99
Actually Satan
First of all how dare you bring me into this scya you know I had no idea what I was getting myself into when I followed your idea
As for the actual question... I suppose it depends on how good a technocrat you want your character to be. If you want a good little technocrat then yea what they were suggesting is the smart choice and you should totally listen to them to avoid problems. But if you want to bend the rules a bit...
Well then there should be a balance between the two view points. RNEs are the souls of the dead and the underworld is the land of the dead... But that doesn't mean there isn't a scientific explanation for it all. Souls are things. The underworld is the land of the dead. But your characters can see them. They can interact with them. If they get proper permission they can step into the land of the dead and get into a wrestling match with an RNE (Or rather shoot the ghost of a lucadore as it tries to grab you). Which means the nature of all these things can be observed. You can quantify and qualify all of them.
You can hold people's souls in your hands and experiment to learn the fundamental laws of how souls work. Or make some unable to deny you through whatever means appeal to you the most and then place them into bodies of your own make, robotic or otherwise, and enjoy having to not work so hard to make intelligent beings that have skills you don't have to program into them.
Regardless there is a lot of fun stuff you can do as a technocrat who both believes in the... religious for lack of a better term, aspects of death while still approaching it from an overall scientific point of view. But the biggest difficulty is figuring out how you're going to explain all of this to the rest of the technocracy, especially the ones who are looking over your shoulder at your work and are ready to correct any 'bad think'.
UrsaTempest
Don't Panic!
Yeah, I'm not sure I want to go that way. But lacking in specific Spheres feels like it'll cripple TU rather fierce, you know?
I did consider making a new Entropy as Technocracy-specific Death Arcanum/Sphere, like Dimensional Science. But I'm not sure how to go about that.
I did consider making a new Entropy as Technocracy-specific Death Arcanum/Sphere, like Dimensional Science. But I'm not sure how to go about that.