It really doesn't matter that one of the most prominent Feminists is actually a 6000-year-old proto-vampire who wants to end the world for petty revenge, the cause is still good.
How far can you separate a movement from their allies?
It's another question should come up surprisingly often for games in World of Darkness.
How culpable should you be for unwillingness to disassociate from someone?
 

Lillith, from oVampire.

Technically, she doesn't actually do anything except in the backstory and one possible ending, but she's still a huge feminist icon.

How far can you separate a movement from their allies?
It's another question should come up surprisingly often for games in World of Darkness.
How culpable should you be for unwillingness to disassociate from someone?

Listen, I believe that humanity should murder the earth and turn it into a giant spaceship that we can use to go to other life-bearing planets and murder them, like Sephiroth and Jenova's ultimate goal in Final Fantasy VII.

You know who else believes that we should murder the earth and turn it into a giant spaceship that we can use to murder other life-bearing planets? Pentex.

I may not agree with all of their policies regarding this "wyrm" thing, but I can't fault their goals. So of course I'm going to work with them. That's just common sense.

Besides, we have to fight against the werewolves who want to turn the Earth into a giant cyborg transformer that would naturally be able to kick all of our asses.
 
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I love the Dark Ages setting for oWoD. I've considered making a Dark Ages setting for Requiem, but I'm not sure.
 
I love the Dark Ages setting for oWoD. I've considered making a Dark Ages setting for Requiem, but I'm not sure.
I love some aspects of the oWoD Dark Ages setting especially the Vampire and Mage settings (Mainly because my knowledge of Werewolf is very limited), but if you ever did write something along the lines of "Dark Ages Setting for nWoD" i would personally be delighted to read it once done and i hope many others would too.
 
Besides, we have to fight against the werewolves who want to turn the Earth into a giant cyborg transformer that would naturally be able to kick all of our asses.
Okay I was kinda averse to a bit of this post at first but willing to let it be a difference of objectives, but being opposed to GIANT ROBOT EARTH?

what the fuck is wrong with you you sick inhuman monster
 
I love some aspects of the oWoD Dark Ages setting especially the Vampire and Mage settings (Mainly because my knowledge of Werewolf is very limited), but if you ever did write something along the lines of "Dark Ages Setting for nWoD" i would personally be delighted to read it once done and i hope many others would too.
Err, isn't there already something like that 'Dark Eras'. Like there's pre-Sundering Werewolf in the Monolithic world
 
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Okay I was kinda averse to a bit of this post at first but willing to let it be a difference of objectives, but being opposed to GIANT ROBOT EARTH?

what the fuck is wrong with you you sick inhuman monster

I'm not entirely opposed to a giant robot earth. However, you must understand that we humans are nought but parasites upon Gaia's flesh, and that if unchained it is likely that her first action will be to take a long, warm, shower.
 
Err, isn't there already something like that 'Dark Eras'. Like there's pre-Sundering Werewolf in the Monolithic world
Kinda, but 'Dark Eras' is not a complete guide to "The Dark Ages: Chronicles of Darkness Style" it is just small bits here and there in time from Neolithic to Rennaisance and so on. Its not really confined to The Dark Ages.
 
Listen, I believe that humanity should murder the earth and turn it into a giant spaceship that we can use to go to other life-bearing planets and murder them, like Sephiroth and Jenova's ultimate goal in Final Fantasy VII.

You know who else believes that we should murder the earth and turn it into a giant spaceship that we can use to murder other life-bearing planets? Pentex.

I may not agree with all of their policies regarding this "wyrm" thing, but I can't fault their goals. So of course I'm going to work with them. That's just common sense.

Besides, we have to fight against the werewolves who want to turn the Earth into a giant cyborg transformer that would naturally be able to kick all of our asses.
I prefer my extradimensional colonization efforts in style Cheiron Group's extradimensional board of directors.
If you're bailing on your own world might as well go corporate subtly in a new existence!
 
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Incidentally, what are (Hunter) Vampires like?

I mean, I know they use a different setting and all, and are not meant to be the same thing. I'm asking for a reason, actually. Something I'm working on.
 
Incidentally, what are (Hunter) Vampires like?
Don't actually know because I always used Requiem vampires in Hunter?
Kind of sad resident hunter doesn't know the information easily on demand.

I mean, I know they use a different setting and all, and are not meant to be the same thing. I'm asking for a reason, actually. Something I'm working on.
Just pull out your ancient untouched copy of Antagonists and finally use Aswang for once?
 
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The Roaring Age

"Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour."



War ends, but the scars remain on the world. In a world of darkness, old wounds linger and are joined by new ones, but in the United States, glamour and glitz hide growing corruption and increasing problems. As farmers starve and lose more and more, as the conditions were set in poverty and problems for the Dust Bowls of the 1930s, the country marched onward towards an uncertain future.

Women have gained the right to vote, but where to go from there? And what of the vast inequalities that exist between black and white, between rich and poor, between the flappers and the poor scullery maids, between the 'New Women' the rising middle class that consumed and worked and attempted to live a life at once decadent and free.

Activists struggled and the world shifted beneath everyone's feet. Prohibition and gangsters, travelling circuses and freak shows, it is a world that is at once like our own, less than a century old, and yet so unlike that of our own.

It is, in other words, the perfect time period to set a period version of the World of Darkness in, with enough that is strange and bizarre and horrible and even sublime to fill anyone's quota.

So, the idea behind this (besides that I'm not starting it quite yet) is that rather than have a long and involved character creation, I'll give archetypes and then there will be a little bit of definition gained via the Prologue.

Also, I'm still not decided what sort of Quest it will be. Thus, after each option I'll state which of the three (Mage, Vampire, Hunter) seem to fit with the general story being told. I might also have sections where I tell two different hooks for how the Prologue begins. Notably, whatever this is, it isn't a world where all three exist.

A world of vampires is not a world of Mages, and if Hunters go after dangerous Witches, they don't need to worry about the Obrimos.

So, since this is just for fun and I'm not going to actually start a Quest, at least not for a long while...here we go!

[] The Flapper: She is a new woman, a liberated young girl who doesn't want to live the sort of life her mother did. She's independent in the city, or at least as independent as she can get, and has her own job and her own ambitions. She's more political than some flappers, even if she wasn't around and important in gaining Women's Suffrage, and her keen intelligence and social grace has gotten her through life so far unscathed, but in the dark alleys and speakeasies, there are secrets and there are lies, and there are the men who tell them. It's the big city, honey. Settings: Vampire, Mage.
[] The Farmhand: He's the young man constantly on the edge of one doom or another. He helps out where he can at one farm and another, but all of them are doing poorly, and more than that, there have been a pattern of deaths, lifestock torn to pieces or disappeared, crops trampled down, that some have spoken of as being part of some large prank. Others, though, have told darker stories, but surely that is all those are: stories. He is a bull of a man, strong and quick of wits, even if he is hardly well educated, and he is a man who knows how to work with his hands and stick to his virtues. Setting: Hunter.
[] The Slave: They lied, they tricked, they stole her away from the village she had been born and raised in. Though of course, her parents and their poverty, and the war and chaos of the Warlord period certainly didn't help. Either way, she has been brought to America as a slave, with nothing more than a bunglingly signed 'contract' to 'legitimize' it. America is a strange land, and one she never wished to see, and as she arrives to be auctioned off, she knows that she must do something...but what? She is, or was, a dutiful daughter, reasonably hard-working and yet she is also out of place, with no English and in a land where her very existence as an 'immigrant' from China is illegal. Settings: Vampire, Mage.
[] The Preacher's Daughter: Her father is an important man, a preacher with ties to the NAACP, and a leading figure in a community that needs all of the help and encouragement it can get to deal with its poverty and problems. And she has been raised as well as can be, a little bit of a tomboy, a little bit of a lady intellectual, pious and curious, with loving parents. But recently, something has changed. Her father is having meetings with strange people at midnight, and is sneaking out of the house. What is he doing? That curiosity digs and digs at her, until one evening she wants to find out. Settings: Hunter, Mage.
[] The Jazz Player: He's a hard drinking, hard playing trumpeter, a man of fashion, taste, and verve. A man with no roots, who lives a life without connection and contact, in a country that is hostile to his very skin. But recently strange things have happened. He has seen things that cannot be explained except perhaps by alcohol. But even without the alcohol, something is going wrong, something dangerous and unexpected. Settings: Mage, Hunter.
[] The Veteran: They say that by 1945, he'll actually get some money for what he did for the fucking country. Where does that leave him in the meantime? With a useless 'bonus check' and a game leg and far too much alcohol and far too many bitter regrets. He wasn't in the war as long as some of the British bastards he'd seen, torn to bits, tattered little shreds of men. He isn't that bad, not yet. He isn't, and he's never going to be. But he's seen things. He's seen things in the dead of night stalking from trench to trench with hungry eyes, he's seen a woman made of light walk out and pick up a dying man, he's seen far too much and he's far too young to be going mad...and yet, here he is, rioting and raving in a shitty bar about his circumstances. Setting: Hunter, Mage.
[] The Banker's Wife: Her husband was a very important man, a man who was intelligent, and even kind to her, even despite her legacy as something of a firebrand when she was younger. She is past all of that nonsense, now, and even has children, and yet she does sometimes wonder how she might have lived her life differently. Yet, ultimately, she is happy. Or at least she is content? Isn't she? Then, the bank fails, then her husband falls apart. Then she loses everything as she has to hold a crumbling, dying family together with all of her might, no matter what the cost. Settings: Vampire (if you want to be really fucked up), Mage. Actually, maybe Hunter if you wanted to play with the 'was a firebrand' element.


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A/N: So yeah, incredibly provisional, and I'd definitely want to buy a book or ten on each of these subjects if I was going to read it, but I hope I provided a decent dusting of common archetypes that might make interesting scenarios. Of course, the last one is cheating, since it's 1929 and thus just past the Roaring Twenties, but I think it could work.

Either way, yeah, feedback is always neat, even if I'm not going to do it anytime soon.
 
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Eh. The slave seems the most intereting to me. Or the preacher's daughter, that one would very go well with nMage.

Anyway, i would certainly prefer Mage over the other two. (Because honestly, Vampire and Hunter bore me).
 
Why not all at once?

Though I think the Flapper is more interesting as a Hunter and the Farmhand as a Vampire or a Mage.

Actually, I'd go with
Flapper: Hunter
Farmhand: Mage
Slave: Hunter
Preacher's Daughter: Changeling
Jazz Player: oDemon
Veteran: Mage
Banker's Wife: Vampire

Although I do see some benefit as having the Slave as a Changeling, with the mythical country of America, shining city on the hill, land of the free, home of the brave, enlightening the world with its liberty, as a realm of Arcadia, ruled over by the True Fae Washington, wears the masks of all the different Presidents.
 
Why not all at once?

Though I think the Flapper is more interesting as a Hunter and the Farmhand as a Vampire or a Mage.

Actually, I'd go with
Flapper: Hunter
Farmhand: Mage
Slave: Hunter
Preacher's Daughter: Changeling
Jazz Player: Hunter
Veteran: Mage
Banker's Wife: Vampire

Although I do see some benefit as having the Slave as a Changeling, with the mythical country of America, shining city on the hill, land of the free, home of the brave, enlightening the world with its liberty, as a realm of Arcadia, ruled over by the True Fae Washington, wears the masks of all the different Presidents.

Some of it is that I'm already doing two Changeling Quests.

...so I'm trying to branch out here. And, all at once? Do you want to kill me?

Hrm, not sure where the 'Flapper: Hunter' thing is coming from, actually. Well, I could see it sorta, I guess...? A little?

Musing right now, gonna go to bed.

But feel free to discuss ideas and so on, it does make me warm and fuzzy inside and all. Though for those who follow KCS they'd better hope this doesn't get made soon since it'd only happen if Rose died on Sunday...
 
Duke Ellington's orchestra as a Hunter Group.
Hanging out with Hoagie Carmichael.
He even had a piece called Muggles!

As time goes on we can even fight the Beatles who are totally a Mage group for the soul of pop!
 
Humm.

Banker's wife. Mage.

Sold out to the Seers.

Opression Quest.



Eh.

The Flapper and specially the slave are way too weak for hunter.

Define weak.

Slave works great as Final Girl to a slasher. Flapper isn't bad in that role, either. In the slave's case, it's about finding inner strength, and growing as a person. In the Flapper's case, it's about monsters as metaphors for the traditional oppressive patriarchy.
 
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