The Victoria Megathread

There's this poor bastard on reddit who ended up betting like $2000 on Victoria 3 not being announced.
 
I am so fucking excited. I am also pleased the trailer includes a shot of non-Europeans rising up - I hope this means they'll give more agency and content to non-Europeans and not have the really bad old civilization system.
 
I'm legit curious how much of the old economic system they'll salvage. That was a self-admitted eldritch abomination that not even the original programmers understood how it (kinda sorta) worked :V
 
Apparently there is going to be one of the panels during the con going over economics though I assume it will be more general.

Also current panel: War is not intending to be the focus, Society building is. Will have to see how that plays out

Edit from that reddit link:
Spheres have been replaced with Markets. There are many local markets instead of a single world market. Expanding your market is going to be a new playstyle aside from conquest - "painting the map economically". You can bring other countries into your market diplomatically or through war. Trade between markets is done by setting up one-way Import and Export trade deals for specific goods, of which you can only have a limited number at a time per market, based on a number of factors.

This could be interesting if they pull it off, diplomatic action, trade action and military action all working together.
 
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Cetashwayo said:
I am so fucking excited. I am also pleased the trailer includes a shot of non-Europeans rising up - I hope this means they'll give more agency and content to non-Europeans and not have the really bad old civilization system.
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Apparently, there's no longer going to be any 'uncolonized' land on the map, just decentralized countries not playable at launch, but to be added eventually. Also, instead of a 'civilized/uncivilized' divide, it will be 'recognized/unrecognized', with it being more a matter of the European Sphere taking you seriously.
 
tankdrop24 said:
Apparently, there's no longer going to be any 'uncolonized' land on the map, just decentralized countries not playable at launch, but to be added eventually. Also, instead of a 'civilized/uncivilized' divide, it will be 'recognized/unrecognized', with it being more a matter of the European Sphere taking you seriously.
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Hell fucking yes. Let's go.
 
TBH I'd prefer if this thread was merged with the V2 thread and that one was turned into a Victoria general megathread.

That way I could both discuss V3 and ask for V2 gameplay tips in the same thread.
 
God, the sound of it from that Reddit link. Everything is better and wonderful. I'm sure they will fuck many things up and that I should prepare for disappointment, but that can wait. Today I hype and by Jove there's a lot to be hyped about. Can't wait to build an utopian anarchist council republic where every POP lives in luxury.
 
On a personal note, I hope they learned from CK3 and don't lock the console behind debug mode. I live for breaking things in new and interesting ways with the console, damnit :V

(also cleaning up border gore, that too)
 
I sorta expect there will be a push towards map painting in the late game, at least as a great power and in a roughly OTL political and social situation. This is the period when countries actively and enthusiastically engaged in map painting pretty much entirely for the case of map painting, after all. Though that push would probably be through political interest groups being happy to see it, not through the painted areas themselves being a benefit to your country.
 
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I sorta expect there will be a push towards map painting in the late game, at least as a great power and in a roughly OTL political and social situation. This is the period when countries actively and enthusiastically engaged in map painting pretty much entirely for the case of map painting, after all. Though that push would probably be through political interest groups being happy to see it, not through the painted areas themselves being a benefit to your country.
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Not quite? The biggest case of what we would characterize as "map painting" in the 1836-1936 period was the Scramble for Africa. Besides that, the closest you got was when one side would dismember an opposing empires and then conglomerate the territories from said dismemberments to create client states of varying dependencies.
 
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*looking through the Reddit link*

Oh, they'll actually give you proper leaders now (including CK3-style portraits). Neat. One of the things that always bugged me about Vicky 2 was that your government type didn't matter on a leader side of things. Other than the odd event like Victoria's ascension to the throne, you never had any name, image or anything to associate with. This was especially jarring in democracies where '...um, who's the President again???' was a question.

(particularly the USA, wherein 'who is the President?' could mean quite a lot, once the Civil War kicked off)
 
obssesednuker said:
Not quite? The biggest case of what we would characterize as "map painting" in the 1836-1936 period was the Scramble for Africa. After that, most of what you saw was really dismembering opposing empires and then conglomerating the territories from said dismemberments to create dependent client states.
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Well, I guess I should have the covered timespans covers the period - which is to say, it's when the Scramble for Africa happened.
 
Cetashwayo said:
I am so fucking excited. I am also pleased the trailer includes a shot of non-Europeans rising up - I hope this means they'll give more agency and content to non-Europeans and not have the really bad old civilization system.
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We're also finally getting anarchists!

  • Ideas like Socialism, Anarchism, Egalitarianism, will increase the minimum Expected Standard of Living for ALL POPs once present in your nation, so you will need to provide them with more stuff to keep them happy. This might also increase attraction for Interest Groups that want broader suffrage or to abolish slavery, for example.
  • Having Anarchism as your organizing principle produces no Authority, so you will have a very reduced ability to make changes to your country directly once you have switched over to it.
  • Anarchists can implement a Council Republic government, which gives more Political Strength to Farmers and Machinists and opens up the Worker Cooperative production method, in which workers own their factories and collect dividends from them. This is distinct from USSR-style communism, in which the state controls the industries and (theoretically...) passes the proceeds on to the workers from the top down in the form of subsidies and social programs.
 
Skywalker_T-65 said:
Oh, they'll actually give you proper leaders now (including CK3-style portraits). Neat. One of the things that always bugged me about Vicky 2 was that your government type didn't matter on a leader side of things.
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The military side did have generals and admirals, but you usually barely cared about them and their only contribution was stat-boosts/maluses to combat.
 
PC Gamer article with mostly the same info as the Reddit link, but it also gives us some examples of what happened in the game the journalists saw. The dev playing bullies Denmark and then backs down instead of seeing their threat through, the scrub. I really adore the sound of the censorship mechanics, trying to prevent nasty outside thoughts like rights for women and living wages from reaching your population.
 
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Victoria III huh, I guess the Victoria III jokes are those people getting murdered in the CK III Royal Court Trailer.
 
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