Star Wars, a Shattered Galaxy

Will Empress Ederlathh's legacy/fate be elaborated on in the sequel? I'm more invested in her than my own character. I always felt she was wasted in EU and took Oxtroe to solely push her into prominence.
Yes although I can say she gets a nice ending. Eventually evens out, marries one of Soontir Fel's sons, has at least one child named after Rae, lives a long life and ultimately dies in her sleep peacefully.
 
So I am going to take a guess that Dak died before Zana even though he made heavy use of droids due to his lack of Clones.
 
I'm pretty sure that the only one who believes in this grey darkness version of Star Wars is Mortis, though. Even at its darkest, Star Wars is pretty Manichaean.
 
That's something that would just be in the RP forum, then. There's nothing really "Grand Strategy" about a bunch of people playing individual Jedi running around. If you want to play your own Jedi, sure, but it can't be just that for everyone.
You can make people do what you say and blow up death stars. No prison can reliably hold you and at times the galaxy itself helps you out. The mere mortals don't really have much chance against powerful force users who normally end up manipulating or dominating giant space (filling) empires.

So you can still play it as grand strategy but really that's trivia compare to the will of the force that can bring down galactic governments with ease.
 
You can make people do what you say and blow up death stars. No prison can reliably hold you and at times the galaxy itself helps you out. The mere mortals don't really have much chance against powerful force users who normally end up manipulating or dominating giant space (filling) empires.

So you can still play it as grand strategy but really that's trivia compare to the will of the force that can bring down galactic governments with ease.
Counterpoint: the Jedi were stopped by armies turning on them, and the Empire was brought down by people blind to the Force: see, Han, Jyn, Wedge, Cassian, Lando, Ackbar, etc...
 
I'm pretty sure that the only one who believes in this grey darkness version of Star Wars is Mortis, though. Even at its darkest, Star Wars is pretty Manichaean.
And whoever wrote the EU or the latest movie where the Republic sit around doing nothing until the Empire blows up an innocent planet and man gets stabbed in the gut by his own son all because Luke just quit and left the Galaxy to be a hermit and Leia got shoved out to the wilderness by short sighted politicians?

Or are you going to argue that the Republic, GA, Chiss, New Empire whatever didn't all show an alarming tendancy to both commit massive war crimes and then become stooges to the Dark side. I mean at best the Republic is portrayed as incompetent leaving Leia to fight a one woman war with some hand me downs and then getting its capital blown up for its hubris and that's just the definitely canon not the EU which has it fall into dictatorship twice. The second time for the greater good (though again the Sith took over)
 
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And whoever wrote the EU or the latest movie where the Republic sit around doing nothing until the Empire blows up an innocent planet and man gets stabbed in the gut by his own son all because Luke just quit and left the Galaxy to be a hermit and Leia got shoved out to the wilderness by short sighted politicians?

Or are you going to argue that the Republic, GA, Chiss, New Empire whatever didn't all show an alarming tendancy to both commit massive war crimes and then become stooges to the Dark side. I mean at best the Republic is portrayed as incompetent leaving Leia to fight a one woman war with some hand me downs and then getting its capital blown up for its hubris and that's just the definitely canon not the EU which has it fall into dictatorship twice. The second time for the greater good (though again the Sith took over)

Mortis, no-one gives a fuck about your bizarre view of canon. Shut up.
 
You can make people do what you say and blow up death stars. No prison can reliably hold you and at times the galaxy itself helps you out. The mere mortals don't really have much chance against powerful force users who normally end up manipulating or dominating giant space (filling) empires.

So you can still play it as grand strategy but really that's trivia compare to the will of the force that can bring down galactic governments with ease.
At which point you're...effectively playing the leader of a nation, but with force powers.
 
Counterpoint: the Jedi were stopped by armies turning on them, and the Empire was brought down by people blind to the Force: see, Han, Jyn, Wedge, Cassian, Lando, Ackbar, etc...

Counterpoint the Jedi were manipulated by a force user who spent years spreading them out and exhausting them whilst beguiling the galaxy into continually granting him more powers even though he convinced them the war was lost and the Jedi were failing through intentionally playing up defeats and no one noticed. One man brought down a thousand year old institution basically as a side project to destroying his force using enemies.

Who would all be dead without Luke who literally used the force to stop the first death star and then led a rescue mission that should have ended in total failure without massive plot armour (in universe the force) and then managed to take out Palpatine and Vader who were distracted by him (indeed Vader would have had the shuttle shot down if he'd not been more interested in Luke than the puny rebels) and it was Leia and C3PO who saved the day.

Without Luke/Leia/Darth Vader at best Palpatine uses the shuttle Luke did and regroups again or at worst and more likely the rebels get shot out of the sky and their fleet walks into an ambush and gets wiped out.
 
At which point you're...effectively playing the leader of a nation, but with force powers.
My point is the nation is secondary to the force powers. If the force wants something to happen it happens. The Death Star was an excercise in stupidity but would have worked despite everything if Luke had not used the force to make an impossible shot (also Vader's Wingman being a really bad pilot and crashing into him for no reason) and Palpatine became a leader of a nation through his force powers and held the Empire together through them.

Revan built endless war material and became a threat largely through the force and leftover force constructs.

Basically force users are the most important part of the SW Galaxy they drive the plot, save the day and usually provide the main villains especially the dangerous ones.
 
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But, like, this is Grand Strategy RP. You're arguing that rando force users can be used to rule nations in the background but if you're going to be running a nation there's no need to make everyone a rando force user.
 
But, like, this is Grand Strategy RP. You're arguing that rando force users can be used to rule nations in the background but if you're going to be running a nation there's no need to make everyone a rando force user.
No need but if played straight they should have massive advantages over everyone else because they are magic and its how SW works.
 
You can make people do what you say and blow up death stars. No prison can reliably hold you and at times the galaxy itself helps you out. The mere mortals don't really have much chance against powerful force users who normally end up manipulating or dominating giant space (filling) empires.

So you can still play it as grand strategy but really that's trivia compare to the will of the force that can bring down galactic governments with ease.
Well it doesn't quite take a force user to escape Prison Boba did it a few times and if we go by the EU quite a few times. Honestly Star Wars prisons are shit in keeping their prisoners in.
 
I wasn't talking about that I meant the one which would cause several individuals to have their heads pop like a grape.
Illyo had that planned out and was going to be free of the collar by Prakith. He'd gone full Bond by then.

That Star Wars is a grimdark oligarchy where only people with the Force matter and this game was entirely unrealistic, apparently.
Leia didn't become the Empress 0/10 would not deus vult again.
 
Hey if we're doing a HRE Empire I call Electorate of Anaxes. ;):D

No but seriously I have a serious love for the idea of an empire that essentially gets overtaken by the strongest of the HRE, Pruss-- I mean Anaxes.
 
Illyo had that planned out and was going to be free of the collar by Prakith. He'd gone full Bond by then.


Leia didn't become the Empress 0/10 would not deus vult again.
But who did become Empress? The super powerful force child who drives the actions of the most important PCs and easily fucks shit up whenever she is remotely threatened or bored.
 
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