Shepard Quest Mk V, Base of Operations (ME/MCU)

[Yog]

So ideas, comments, issues, anything else you want to say?

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Ok, my thoughts:

1 and 2 are already being implemented. First being done by science heroes (Conrad developing black hole gun and looking into temporal tech). In the galaxy of trillions, geniuses are bound to appear, and respond to tech advances. I, personally, would prefer they didn't just develop tech from our tech tree, instead developing something else, but that is viable. The second option is in Asari dredging more and more from their beacon, STG being STG, possible reverse-engineering of long-lost civilization's techs, perhaps even Reaper ones. What tech could they develop? Plausible ones, probably. So, for example salarians might start releasing advanced cybernetics or some such. Asari could start releasing prothean tech. Etc. Someone might reintroduce that krogan planet-busting technology (the one that blew up that one planet near Krogan DMZ and was suspected to be a result of super-biotic experiments). DC1934 could be discovered with their advanced crystalline tech. Etc, etc, etc. Hanar could be good at biology stuff.

I'm not wild about marvel stuff, personally. We aren't really marvel Tony's reincarnation or anything, as far as I understand. And ME offers plenty enough things to mess with and do. Adding marvel into it just feels superfluous, and, well, moving away from the setting established.

Supervillains are silly (though Biotic God could be one). Spies, warlords from the terminus, assassins, etc. Now those could work. For example, energy industry (and hydrogen mining industry, meaning civilian shipbuilders too) likely wants to kill us. As will at least some turians after they see our frigates in action. Etc.

Political effects of our upheaval could be a good thing to investigate - we are rapidly upturning life on the galactic scale. So, politics might enter the equation. People wanting oversight. People trying to predict what we'll release next. People trying to restrict or sponsor some of the research options. People wanting to help us (not everyone will be against us), either competently or not.

Dealing with fans could be a nice side-quest.


In the end, I believe that marvel galaxy and its reaction to such radical and rapid developments as we introduce could be very fun, for a very long time. On political, technological, other spheres.

As to the end... Not sure. Retries would be preferred, but I could live with it being the end, as long as it was a logical end.

There should be a possiblity of winning, however.

 

[Hoyr]

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Well I'm not going to say exactly what I'm going to do but you did give me an idea, now whether the players act in a direction that brings it up is another question.

Ok, my thoughts:

1 and 2 are already being implemented. First being done by science heroes (Conrad developing black hole gun and looking into temporal tech). In the galaxy of trillions, geniuses are bound to appear, and respond to tech advances. I, personally, would prefer they didn't just develop tech from our tech tree, instead developing something else, but that is viable. The second option is in Asari dredging more and more from their beacon, STG being STG, possible reverse-engineering of long-lost civilization's techs, perhaps even Reaper ones. What tech could they develop? Plausible ones, probably. So, for example salarians might start releasing advanced cybernetics or some such. Asari could start releasing prothean tech. Etc. Someone might reintroduce that krogan planet-busting technology (the one that blew up that one planet near Krogan DMZ and was suspected to be a result of super-biotic experiments). DC1934 could be discovered with their advanced crystalline tech. Etc, etc, etc. Hanar could be good at biology stuff.

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Options one and two were more about opposition, when we put off getting laser tech in the early game I was just waiting for some smart guy to take an arc-reactor and slap a laser on it, nothing fancy just basic DEW tech, but given a 5GW power source and existing laser tech...

As for tech for your tree the issue is your tree has a fair amount of general tech or tech that does show up in the ME setting by ME2/3. It's less of an issue now as a lot of the low hanging fruit is gone. That stuff I'd have to consider fair game looking at the tree as is:
The Invisible Man
Adrenal Implant
CASIE implant
Advanced Xenobiology (In limited portions only, aka someone may develop the Salarian part of that tech independently)
5 Meter Mech
Medium Armor
Hover Vehicles
QECs
Gravitational Wave Detector (?)
Miniaturized Energy Weapons (Limited power levels)
Limited forms of some of the cybernetics.

Other then that one would need some sort of research hero, to even have a chance at the tech, and some of it I have no issue reserving for Revy. Arc-reactor MK levels are something no one else is going to develop unless they steal a copy and have a lot of time to burn or Revy hands them all the background information on the reactor and even then it still might take a while.

Option 2 was in large part due to the fact that you guys have so much god damn market dominance its not even funny, your main limit is production, and you basically have a license to print money, Total sales to reach full market saturation (is that the right term) for the Arc-Reactor I calced (very loosely) was in the trillions of units, which was something like quadrillions or even quintillions of credits. While I'm not really going to even bother trying to have other compete in the power market (now having the companies you're running over try to take you down by hook or crook is fair game but product wise, they can't do it).

But in the millitary gear market or other markets I feel that others at the very least should be something other then pins to your bowling ball. Does any one here have any reason to believe that any of the companies as is even have the ability to compete with you? The IFV you're bringing is 100% in house, no licenses, no deals, it all yours. Now maybe the SA wants a few to many and you need to license, but meh, you'll steam roll the next competition too. Option 2 allows other companies that play ball with you. Maybe they don't have as good a product as you, but they have a few awesome features that get attention (and they license the tech for a reasonable price). Now if you just want me to keep these competitions interesting by having them try to murder you or sabotage your stuff I can do that to, I feel that a bit of both is good though.

As an example of the above I was considering one of the competitors showing off a stealth IFV, using cloaking tech, or have a company up and patent infantry scale laser tech (mind you could make your own version, but it might take a little bit of work to get around the patent laws) and then the company asks to buy ARs from you to use as power cells.

I'm not wild about marvel stuff, personally. We aren't really marvel Tony's reincarnation or anything, as far as I understand. And ME offers plenty enough things to mess with and do. Adding marvel into it just feels superfluous, and, well, moving away from the setting established.

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Niether am I really but I figured I'd throw it out there.

Supervillains are silly (though Biotic God could be one). Spies, warlords from the terminus, assassins, etc. Now those could work. For example, energy industry (and hydrogen mining industry, meaning civilian shipbuilders too) likely wants to kill us. As will at least some turians after they see our frigates in action. Etc.

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I too find most supervillains silly (which is why I did the silly question thing), only types of supervillain I'm inclined to use off the top of my head are Show Off Super Thief (Kinda like Kasumi), High Powered Mercenary, and Charismatic Cult Leader/Terrorist. I feel that those are sane enough to fit in universe.

Political effects of our upheaval could be a good thing to investigate - we are rapidly upturning life on the galactic scale. So, politics might enter the equation. People wanting oversight. People trying to predict what we'll release next. People trying to restrict or sponsor some of the research options. People wanting to help us (not everyone will be against us), either competently or not.

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I fully intend for that to be a thing. It might be a good idea for you guys to get a political analyst or something like that.

Dealing with fans could be a nice side-quest.

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"THEY'RE WORSE THEN CONRAD!!!!"

There should be a possiblity of winning, however.

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All I can give you is a chance, Its like a seed. Making bloom is your business though.


So that aside I'm see a lot of people in favor of a (Evil?) secret organization(s). Which to me reads, "Please Mr. GM, do all the evil things to us!"

Okay I'll take that under advisement.

 

[Daniel14541]

Nah, the energy industry doesn't want to kill us yet. Right now their fighting each other in the shadows to be the first to attract our attention positively so we can go into business with them. They want to basically use our reactors and have a cut of the profit. The first dozen corporations should meet with us while we are on earth again.

 

[Lagrange]

As for tech for your tree the issue is your tree has a fair amount of general tech or tech that does show up in the ME setting by ME2/3. It's less of an issue now as a lot of the low hanging fruit is gone. That stuff I'd have to consider fair game looking at the tree as is:
The Invisible Man
Adrenal Implant
CASIE implant
Advanced Xenobiology (In limited portions only, aka someone may develop the Salarian part of that tech independently)
5 Meter Mech
Medium Armor
Hover Vehicles
QECs
Gravitational Wave Detector (?)
Miniaturized Energy Weapons (Limited power levels)
Limited forms of some of the cybernetics.

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A lot of those were supposed to just be hurdles we need to pass in order to adapt existing tech to our new systems. Specifically, the entire ship tree, the mech tree, and the armor tree. To get shipbuilding past "old ship + new gadget" to "ship designed from the ground up to utilize new gadget". If we never research those, it completely makes sense for the rest of the galaxy to eventually do it - though possible not as quickly / well as we would.

Others are tech that gets researched in ME (over the next decade or so). having those happen early is completely reasonable - funding that was thrown at researching power systems is probably being shifted around massively right now. It was only on our tree so that we could get it working before it would have in canon.

 

[Hoyr]

So FYI I am typing some stuff right now I don't have a better ETA then before its just mostly getting things going.

But on that note the PC is in Moscow, which I know very little at all about other then whats on wiki.

Anyone know anything about Moscow that feels relevant for the IFV competition? @Yog IIRC you said you knew quite a bit about the place.

One of the thing I'd like to include is a miltary vehicle proving grounds.

 

[Somebodynobody10]

So FYI I am typing some stuff right now I don't have a better ETA then before its just mostly getting things going.

But on that note the PC is in Moscow, which I know very little about all about other then whats on wiki.

Anyone know anything about Moscow that feels relevant for the IFV competition? @Yog IIRC you said you knew quite a bit about the place.

One of the thing I'd like to include is a miltary vehicle proving grounds.

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Siberia. The climate that will freeze your body parts off if you go insufficiently clothed outside.
Granted that the latter should only happen in a *very big* snowstorm with high winds, not in normal "freeze now" weather. You will just turn into a popcicle instead

Can our machine survive the weather and keep the occupants warm enough to function and if so, is this at the cost of making it an oven in tropical climates?

 

[Van Ropen]

If a standard ME hardsuit can handle some pretty extreme temperatures in both directions without issue, our vehicle is fine.

Also, Moscow is not technically Siberia, I believe?

 

[Kelenas]

So Questers here's what I want to know, how do you want to be challenged?

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Well, there was that mysterious assassination attempt during the PA competition coupled with an attempt to steal our first Industrial Arc Reactor, when Auks still ran the quest, that kinda just fizzled out. You could write him a PM about it, to get his info on it, and then pick up the thread again.

More politicking. Yeah, we're really picking up speed, but there's megacorps out there who've been around for centuries, and/or own entire *planets*, with revenue streams in the billions or trillions of credits. I'd kind of expect them to try and pull more lobbying; throwing around tens or even hundreds of millions of credits in order to get contracts instead of us. Particularly in Citadel space.

Beyond that, there's the (most likely) still incoming assault by a coalition of pirates and slavers. Given the tech-advantage we can provide (even if we don't have developed ships from the ground up, yet, they could still go and fit existing vessels with Arc Reactors to make use of the increase in power, for example), it might lead to the SA going to war against the Hegemony, rather than just crowing to the Council.

 

[Yog]

Options one and two were more about opposition, when we put off getting laser tech in the early game I was just waiting for some smart guy to take an arc-reactor and slap a laser on it, nothing fancy just basic DEW tech, but given a 5GW power source and existing laser tech...

As for tech for your tree the issue is your tree has a fair amount of general tech or tech that does show up in the ME setting by ME2/3. It's less of an issue now as a lot of the low hanging fruit is gone. That stuff I'd have to consider fair game looking at the tree as is:
The Invisible Man
Adrenal Implant
CASIE implant
Advanced Xenobiology (In limited portions only, aka someone may develop the Salarian part of that tech independently)
5 Meter Mech
Medium Armor
Hover Vehicles
QECs
Gravitational Wave Detector (?)
Miniaturized Energy Weapons (Limited power levels)
Limited forms of some of the cybernetics.

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Hmm, Hanar might be one of the better ones with exobiology, due to having to deal withh two species' biologies regularly (Drell and Hanar themselves). I can definitely see at least some limited variants of our bio and cybernetics appearing. Mechs too. Grav wave detectors will appear, but their development will only start once the rumors about our stealth leak / we demonstrate stealth. After that, non-EM detector research will get unlimited budget. QEC are canon tech, and I can see them being accelerated here. So, yeah, that's actually one point I would very much like to see - how galaxy reacts to what we make, and what research we spur on by doing our thing. After all, the world isn't static.

Option 2 was in large part due to the fact that you guys have so much god damn market dominance its not even funny, your main limit is production, and you basically have a license to print money, Total sales to reach full market saturation (is that the right term) for the Arc-Reactor I calced (very loosely) was in the trillions of units, which was something like quadrillions or even quintillions of credits. While I'm not really going to even bother trying to have other compete in the power market (now having the companies you're running over try to take you down by hook or crook is fair game but product wise, they can't do it).

But in the millitary gear market or other markets I feel that others at the very least should be something other then pins to your bowling ball. Does any one here have any reason to believe that any of the companies as is even have the ability to compete with you? The IFV you're bringing is 100% in house, no licenses, no deals, it all yours. Now maybe the SA wants a few to many and you need to license, but meh, you'll steam roll the next competition too. Option 2 allows other companies that play ball with you. Maybe they don't have as good a product as you, but they have a few awesome features that get attention (and they license the tech for a reasonable price). Now if you just want me to keep these competitions interesting by having them try to murder you or sabotage your stuff I can do that to, I feel that a bit of both is good though.

As an example of the above I was considering one of the competitors showing off a stealth IFV, using cloaking tech, or have a company up and patent infantry scale laser tech (mind you could make your own version, but it might take a little bit of work to get around the patent laws) and then the company asks to buy ARs from you to use as power cells.

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Good thoughts. One thing that would work great is if those developments became possible due to our earlier released techs. So, say, lasers are now possible because of arc reactors and advanced materials. Mechs / transforming devices due to neural interfaces / advanced implants. Etc.



Niether am I really but I figured I'd throw it out there.

I too find most supervillains silly (which is why I did the silly question thing), only types of supervillain I'm inclined to use off the top of my head are Show Off Super Thief (Kinda like Kasumi), High Powered Mercenary, and Charismatic Cult Leader/Terrorist. I feel that those are sane enough to fit in universe.

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That works. Also ruthless Pirate (lord), Terminus Warlord, etc.

"THEY'RE WORSE THEN CONRAD!!!!"

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I fully expect Revy to be pronounced a Messiah and be given bloody sacrifices (whether she likes it or not) after deploying Eternal Youth, or even just peak human. Hell, if Revy is not the most girl name in human space within a decade, I'd be very surprised.

All I can give you is a chance, Its like a seed. Making bloom is your business though.

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Hopefully, a chance would be enough.

So FYI I am typing some stuff right now I don't have a better ETA then before its just mostly getting things going.

But on that note the PC is in Moscow, which I know very little about all about other then whats on wiki.

Anyone know anything about Moscow that feels relevant for the IFV competition? @Yog IIRC you said you knew quite a bit about the place.

One of the thing I'd like to include is a military vehicle proving grounds.

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Yeah, I am a native of Moscow, so I could give you some advise, hopefully. What information do you need/want? Geographical? temperatures / weather? People? What to see, and, if so, in what area (art, history, parks, science and government buildings)?

Not sure if I have military polygons' locations easily available.

 

[Erehwon]

Throw practically everything at us and have the threats sometimes attacking or working with each other. Make us have to try and choose which threats to deal with from those we recognize. There should be cabals of paranoid asari matriarchs reluctantly delving more into the beacons tech, volus and human commercial magnates who want to stop us overtaking them, everyone trying to steal our tech (except that asari cabal), people recklessly searching for alien tech to beat us with and potentially starting wars/releasing viruses/opening holes to other dimensions/etc, assassination attempts, luddite groups against our tech, politicians trying to control us/our tech, supposedly rogue spectres declaring us a threat to the citadel, salarians begging to learn from us, alongside the usual slaver attacks, romance, personal crisis, etc.

Let there be chaos, though unless you really want to have us bad ending probably not CHAOS.

 

[Hoyr]

Siberia. The climate that will freeze your body parts off if you go insufficiently clothed outside.
Granted that the latter should only happen in a *very big* snowstorm with high winds, not in normal "freeze now" weather. You will just turn into a popcicle instead

Can our machine survive the weather and keep the occupants warm enough to function and if so, is this at the cost of making it an oven in tropical climates?

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I'm a resident of the state of Alaska so I get cold. -20F (-28C) is cold -40F (-40C) is really cold, -60F (-51C) is extremely cold. "It's spring time in Alaska when it's forty below" is part of a song for a reason. 20-30 Minute walk in the snow to school in ~-40F is not fun but it can be done (Only up hill one way though)

Mechanical systems get to be a bit worry some at around -60F, assuming heaters were applied to the oil and the anti-freeze which its best to have stating at what was it 0F or so? (and assuming the right anti-freeze mix was used most off the shelf versions have mixes for up to -60F on the back). But at about -60F is where the grease in the wheels/CV axel can get a little funny, seriously grinding, squeaking wheels, goes away after the friction warms them up but man is that scary.

Random facts about my home state and cold aside you're IFV is fine its got heaters and AC. Its also space rated so as long as ice build up doesn't cause an issue its fine. And as GM I'm willing to say that most likely wont be an issue.

I also don't think Moscow is that cold in April, but I don't live there so...

Yeah, I am a native of Moscow, so I could give you some advise, hopefully. What information do you need/want? Geographical? temperatures / weather? People? What to see, and, if so, in what area (art, history, parks, science and government buildings)?

Not sure if I have military polygons' locations easily available.

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Weather info would be nice Its around April 14th ish. (Also I assume the grass would be up?)

Names would be good. A hotel, a name for a new convention center (built post first contact), and well a name for the proving ground. Though it would help if they were Anglicized, I could set my key board to Russian, but I'd just be typing gibberish. The names don't have to be real ones just appropriate ones.

The exact detail of the proving ground don't matter much to me I'm just going to operate under the assumption that it on the outer part of the city (and big enough to show off orbital drops making it larger then 100m but that feels like a given).

And well the city is hosting the IFV competition for the SA (not to mention many other member nations of the SA may be attending), how does the city react? Does it care?

This might be more something for others who've visited, but you're in Moscow for the first time just looking around on your way to a hotel, your a farm girl that turned out to be a super genius, whats big, what stands out? Esp compared to you fairly grey/white home city.

And well you live there anything that should be said about it?

I'm not going to claim I can do the city justice, but I'd like to give it a few nods in the post. How much we get into the city is in part the player's call.

In other news the next update is more or less finished. I'm going to wait on some details from Yog, mostly so it not like I'm having the competition occur in Genaricopolis, the capital of Anywhere, and then try to grab one of those people that offered to help to give it a once or twice over. 1286 words as stands.

 

[Sylvire]

Right, back from work and I can finally join this. I swear people post things around 06:00 at GMT+2 zone just to piss me off.

1. Yes, other people can get tech done also. Salarians are good at laser tech so if we stall, I can totally see them patent gigajoule laser eventually at Citadel space. Asari also might get the biotic armor tech from beacon and there are some other goodies.

Vehicles are not an problem, you can't patent idea of building large 2 legged killing machine or tanks.

QEC was Cerberus tech, I'm quite sure their patent rights are denied at that point of timeline.

Invisible man, cybernetics, biology, implants. Yes, those can be easily researched by other people also.

2. There are lot of mega corporations out there so I'm quite sure they can rival us in areas where we don't have lot of going on. I would be surprised if some biology company doesn't work prosthetics if we leave that area alone for while.

3. Do please keep that stuff out.

4. Hmm, not that bad idea if done correctly. One idea would be an genius power armor inventor who worked for HK. All was well until some young upstart made her armor and board wanted his project to be ready for competition next year, instead of few years later when all tests were done. After the fast made "armor" lost, HK cut the funding. Bitter Mr.X was contacted by Cerberus who wanted his help for making weapon tech. Using the new funding he then makes armor to fight that bitch who took his precious project and life in luxury away.

5. Share the drugs please.

There is lot of ways to give trouble for players. Asari matriarchs, STG snooping around, Shadow Broker, pirates/slavers/terrorists coming to play.

Hmm...

Pick one.

Batarians
Sovereigns shady new indoctrination
Asari Matriarchs are fooling around again
It's Cerberus conspiracy

 

[Hoyr]

Right, back from work and I can finally join this. I swear people post things around 06:00 at GMT+2 zone just to piss me off.

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I'm GMT +9 IiRC but then again I'm the sort of person that has few issues staying up late. So sorry!

5. Share the drugs please.

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I really don't know how to read this. Does that mean you think this is good idea? A bad one? Do you actually want some drugs? (I which case I must inform you that the only odd thing I consumed was off brand orange soda) Or were you talking about the Cabal of Volus Biotic Gods?

Hmm...

Pick one.

Batarians
Sovereigns shady new indoctrination
Asari Matriarchs are fooling around again
It's Cerberus conspiracy

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Templates like that are forbidden!

Though it's not all that wrong just missing a few items.

 

[Sylvire]

The Volus one.

Rest should be things which happen eventually from all the other regular ME groups. No need for anything extra to be made. Perhaps I should have put that on my original. I blame hunger, going back to cooking.

 

[UberJJK]

Well a bit late but:

@Esbilon Sorry to see you go. You were a good GM and made a rather fun game.

@Hoyr I have no issues continuing to maintain the Finance spreadsheet and Tech Tree as long as you don't mind. I'm also willing to help with anything else that I can.

All joking aside, IIRC the last vote was tallied so I'll go hunt that down and work on that ETA End of this week at worst if not sooner. I expect I'll be tossing up a new thread when that's done and I'll toss a link here.

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In case you haven't found it yet:

Given that it's been 13.5 hours I think it safe to say:

Voting Is Closed!

Vote tally:
##### 3.18
[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No Paragon Industries personnel have been deployed anywhere save our facilities on Mindoir, nor will they be in the near future, with the exception of our planned facilities on Elysium.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware outside of Systems Alliance.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab.
-[X] No comment.
No. of votes: 7
Sylvire, UberJJK, meianmaru, Alanek2002, avatar11792, TmDagger, kylina

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No Paragon Industries personnel have been deployed anywhere save our facilities on Mindoir, nor will they be in the near future, with the exception of our planned facilities on Elysium.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to the other members of the Citadel. I will not sell to nations outside of it.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab.
-[X] No comment.
No. of votes: 6
Van Ropen, dacsan, Tabron89, Neo-Chan, wolfzoid, EdgarF

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] As far as I know, no.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware outside of Systems Alliance.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab.
-[X] No comment.
No. of votes: 5
Katreus, hunter09, Leingod, tyaty1, Daniel14541

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No Paragon Industries personnel of any type have been deployed to Altahe.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware outside of Systems Alliance.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab.
-[X] No comment.
No. of votes: 4
Stroth, aceraptor, Deathwings, TheEyes

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No Paragon Industries personnel have been deployed anywhere save our facilities on Mindoir, nor will they be in the near future, with the exception of our planned facilities on Elysium. Any involvement Paragon Industries might have in any military operation is limited to our technology being used in it by the soldiers of the Alliance
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to our allies in this galaxy. I will not sell military hardware to nations hostile to us.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab. I would like to believe that, while less immediately visible, my contributions to the safety and prosperity of humanity are no less, and, hopefully, even greater than ones I would have made as a soldier
-[X] No comment.
No. of votes: 2
Yog, Carrnage

[X] 1. The future, as always.
[X] 2. I've never ordered armed personnel that planet and no one else in Paragon has the authority to do that.
[X] 3. I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to the other members of the Citadel. I will not sell to nations outside of it.
[X] 4. I'm a scientist, not a soldier. I can do more good in the lab then in the military.
[X] 5. No. a war with the Batarians would be won in space and most of the hardware i have developed is for ground warfare. By what information is available to me A war at this time would be strategically unsound and, more importantly, be diplomatic suicide; don't let the hot heads tell you otherwise.
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No Paragon Industries personnel have been deployed anywhere save our facilities on Mindoir, nor will they be in the near future.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to the other members of the Citadel. I will not sell to nations outside of it.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab.
-[X] No comment.
No. of votes: 1
Derek58

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No. Unlike in movies archaeology isn't best performed with tanks, guns and space superiority fighters, nod and smile to Alenko, no offence.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to the other members of the Citadel. I will not sell to nations outside of it.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab.
-[X] I think that is a question for the Alliance's Politicians and Military Analysts. All I care about is giving our forces the best equipment my people and I can devise so if such things come to pass more of them come home.
No. of votes: 1
Madfish

[x] 1. The future, as always.
[x] 2. The only expedition we have sent to Alathe has been an archaeological expedition, with any armed forces that entails, furthermore, we are not interested in sending any armed forces to any planet unless they are requested or needed by any of our expeditions or facilities.
[x] 3. I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to the other members of the Citadel. I will not sell to nations outside of it.
[x] 4. I'm a scientist, not a soldier. I can do more good for Humanity AND the Citadel in the lab then in the military. anyone saying otherwise is a fool.
[x] 5. No. a war with the Batarians would be won in space and most of the hardware i have developed is for ground warfare. By what information is available to me A war at this time would be strategically unsound and, more importantly, be diplomatic suicide; don't let the hot heads tell you otherwise.
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JhonCollins

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to the other members of the Citadel. I will not sell to nations outside of it.
-[X]Ignore
-[X] No comment.
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Hazard

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] You'll see that at the competition. I hope to see you there! *smile*
-[X] Not that I'm aware of.
-[X] No comment.
-[X] No comment.
-[X] No comment.
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Amberion

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No Paragon Industries personnel of any type have been deployed to Altahe.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to the other members of the Citadel. I will not sell to nations outside of it.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab.
-[X] No comment.
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AzaggThoth

[X] Answer them in whole or part.
-[X] The future, as always.
-[X] No Paragon Industries personnel have been deployed anywhere save our facilities on Mindoir, nor will they be in the near future, with the exception of our planned facilities on Elysium.
-[X] I have not made a decision at this time concerning selling military hardware to the other members of the Citadel. I will not sell military hardware to nations outside of it.
-[X] We all have roles to play to secure our future, and right now mine is in the lab.
-[X] No comment.
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Hoyr

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Even normal people can get stuff done sometimes: every now and again I could semi-randomly take a tech (this may include unresearched tech or just tech you didn't release/patent) and say that the otherwise normal scientists of this universe researched it on their own. Meaning that someone else has access to the tech and they may or may not patent it. Meaning you then have to convince them to sell it to you if you want to buy it. Most of the Iron Man specific techs will be safe unless they get copies to work from.

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No real issues here. About the only sticking point is that there is some (Non-IM) tech on the tree that takes a Revy level genius to figure out so that should probably be left out as well.

Also really recommend looking at techs not on the tech tree for this. The Prothean's have a bunch of tech tech we don't, like telepathic technology or advanced cryogenics, that the Asari could find in their search of the Beacon.

A rival corporation appears! Someone else has their own own super tech and they want a slice of the same high tech pie PI is getting. May also grab techs from the tree and patent them, but they may also introduce their own techs. Also likely to cheerfully steal contracts if you can't keep up. Also if I do this what should I base their tech on? More ME stuff? (Corporation with a Prothean database? Or maybe the also have a super genius?) Maybe tech cameoing from another setting? (Dues Ex, Xcom, ideas welcome).

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Kind of leery about this one. There isn't really anything Revy could do to cause a super-tech company to appear when there wasn't one in canon. And personally I like it when butterflies make sense rather the random AU bits.

It's also somewhat implausible for a new company to be able to play catchup with us at this point. We're just about to hit point where exponential growth kicks off while they are just starting out.

More Marvel stuff. Loki shows up looking for some Tesseract thingy. Maybe Shepard found a funny glowing blue cube that inspired Arc-Reactor tech. Its currently being used as a novelty paper weight in Shepard's office. (I will point out that my Marvel information is a extremely limited so help would be nice if I used this, on the other hand IIRC enough Marvel stuff has been published that I could just claim that any oddities are due to it being from that one other continuity )

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Not too big a fan of random Marvel stuff dropping in. However I could buy a certain someone who's name sounds like Bazara dropping an odd cube that happens to glow blue in Batarian space.

A supervillain begins terrorizing the galaxy! Will the Citadel security forces look even remotely competent? Will the Spectre forces have enough spare time from secretly running multi-million/billion credit companies to try to stop this threat? Will the supervillain waste technology and skills that could make him millions robbing jewelery stores? Will Rebecca Shepard even notice given the amount of SCIENCE! that needs to be done?

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Probably not. She'll have minions or the like to deal with that.

The Cabal of Volus Biotic Gods has determined that you are a threat to their plans for galactic domination! Or more seriously some secret organization has it out for you. Possible effects: stolen tech, raids on your stuff, assassination attempts, political attacks, etc.

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Actually finding out the most effective and hard to track down group after us been a group of Volus high on Red Sand would be hilarious. Do it!

Would also be interesting to see signs of Cerberus actually playing the role of a morally ambiguous group (rather then blatant villains) by running counter-intelligence ops to defend PI.

Without the challenge this is basically Economy Simulator 20XX (Ten out of ten, would take everyone's money again), and frankly you've won that part of the game.

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I would totally buy that!

War with the Batarians grade interesting maybe.

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I'd love to see that. It's not like I've been arguing for it or anything...

But seriously it would be a massive change from canon and have all sorts of repercussions. The Alliance would almost certainly win, with the price paid depending upon how much time we have to prep them, but what happens afterwards would be the real interesting bit.

Does the Alliance just abandon the now crippled Batarian race to collapse? Do they Annex them and deal with the never ending terrorist attacks? How do they deal with literally billions of slaves?

Then of course there is the Council. The were looking to push the Alliance into a costly war with the Hegemony all along. What happens when the Alliance wins and, possibly, comes out stronger for it? I can't imagine the council would be happy to see a couple Cabria slaughtering entire Hegemony fleets.

On a different note I don't recall this quest having an existing bad end mechanic, I don't expect it to matter to soon but:
[] It's the end we lost.
[] Infinite retries (Reset to a point were you can recover from)
[] X Retries (How many?)

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Well it depends upon how the game goes but I think something like infinite retries up until the Reaper Invasion after which it's Iron Man mode (Pun totally intended). Really drills in the threat of the Reapers if, like Revy, we only have one shot at it.

So Questers here's what I want to know, how do you want to be challenged?

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So:

1) War with the Hegemony
2) Alien megacorps (human ones are likely to be lot less threatening) coming after PI and Revy
3) Alien governments coming after PI and Revy
4) Political warfare both at home (Alliance) and afar (Citadel)
5) Liara digging up something crazy and Revy* going out to rescue her.

*Revy would totally go to rescue a friend in person even if she could just send minions to do it for her.


Oh and to whoever mentioned it; Conrad doesn't have a line entry in the Finance spreadsheet because we were never told how much we're paying him. I somehow doubt he gets as much as Revy or an entire team of Scientists. Or maybe he does since he's just as good as a team of scientists. /shrugs

 

[basefan]

if we're voting then
[x] War with the Hegemony

 

[Alanek]

I suppose we are leaving his pay off the chart because it is probably insignificant, given our resources.

 

[edmantgoog]

an idea for conflict something like the ranchi war or introduce the skrulls or kree to the MEU

 

[tyaty1]

Well, as far alien macarps go, Armax can make a very good IFV even wothout Arc Reactor.

07/07/2010 - Video of IED Explosion on Taetrus Garners Millions of Hits

"A dashboard-camera video of an improvised explosive device that toppled an infantry fighting vehicle on Taetrus has garnered over 560 million extranet hits. Five servicemen were riding in a C77 Tyrus vehicle when the explosive, buried in the center of the road, went off. The bomb, made from two artillery shells and a detonator, threw the 13-ton vehicle into the air but failed to pierce its kinetic barriers and armor. The crew escaped with minor injuries and used the Tyrus' eezo core to lower its mass and right the vehicle with the aid of a tow cable and an aircar. Asked about the crew's hospital stay, Corporal Siyan replied, "We're resting, eating, and buying stock in Armax," referring to the vehicle's manufacturer."

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[Pai]

It's awesome that Hoyr has picked this up hope you have fun with it but that list made my brain hurt.

And is kinda insulting in away. There's been a lot of hard work into that tech list by a lot of posters here. And in story wise its all based on Revy's path in learning. Having some random other people suddenly pop up calmming super tech that ever one's put down for the revy path feels many different kinds of wrong. I don't mean any one who copied it right, or some ace spy getting plans. Just some joesmoe jumping up with super lazes right as we're about to finish fuckoff beams or something.

There's been a billion roll's in black-boxing just for this.

I don't have any suggestions to help with the "conflict" Just a hope that its not over done or forced in. The terraplotdevice? Really? uggg

(what the hell is up with text on the bord today? Autoshrink?)

It's a little sad to see Economyfun and world building being pushed to the side. Since that's what a lot of readers here enjoy. Or at lest it seems that way. Could just be me.

 

[Van Ropen]

It's also insulting that everyone in the galaxy besides us is retarded. After all, like Hoyr (?) said - once Arc Reactors were on the market what was stopping someone from buying one and just sticking it onto existing DEW tech? Nothing. Similar concepts apply elsewhere, even if it isn't quite the same. It's also been pointed out that they (esp. the Asari) should be making techs not on our tree.

It isn't about copying us and negating our hard work or whatever - it's about the galaxy not being static, because they should be innovating too.


Revy is awesome, but it isn't fair to hand everyone else the idiotball.

 

[Yog]

Weather info would be nice Its around April 14th ish. (Also I assume the grass would be up?)

Names would be good. A hotel, a name for a new convention center (built post first contact), and well a name for the proving ground. Though it would help if they were Anglicized, I could set my key board to Russian, but I'd just be typing gibberish. The names don't have to be real ones just appropriate ones.

The exact detail of the proving ground don't matter much to me I'm just going to operate under the assumption that it on the outer part of the city (and big enough to show off orbital drops making it larger then 100m but that feels like a given).

And well the city is hosting the IFV competition for the SA (not to mention many other member nations of the SA may be attending), how does the city react? Does it care?

This might be more something for others who've visited, but you're in Moscow for the first time just looking around on your way to a hotel, your a farm girl that turned out to be a super genius, whats big, what stands out? Esp compared to you fairly grey/white home city.

And well you live there anything that should be said about it?

I'm not going to claim I can do the city justice, but I'd like to give it a few nods in the post. How much we get into the city is in part the player's call.

In other news the next update is more or less finished. I'm going to wait on some details from Yog, mostly so it not like I'm having the competition occur in Genaricopolis, the capital of Anywhere, and then try to grab one of those people that offered to help to give it a once or twice over. 1286 words as stands.

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Hmm, ok. So, temperature should probably be quite above zero. Current average temperature is 7C, though the weather is quite unstable, and it might snow. Global warming (which benefits Russia, actually, with a projected doubling of land where bread crops could be grown) and further industrialization / spread of the megapolis would probably increase it by 5 to 10 degress, so it should be something between 10 and 20 C, with some remaining snow and unstable weather.

For hotel, given we are a multi-billionaire, probably something like National' (Националь), Metropol' (Метрополь), Moscow (most probable) or some other 5 star historical hotel in the very center of Moscow.

Name for a new convention center is tough. I would expect such a big-wig event to use something well established, perhaps even some of the Kremlin facilities, liekly the Kremlin Palace (which was created as a conference hall).

Proving ground... Well, orbital drops over Moscow would likely (no, most certainly) be prohibited if Russian government has any power left. So any such ground would need to be on the outskirts of the city / in one of the satellite towns. Maybe Alabino Tank Biathlon proving grounds (map)?

As to the city's reaction: you have to remember that it's a megapolis and one of a powerful (still) Country with a rich history. By that time it would probably have population of 20-30 million people (it has 12 to 15 now, depending on the count). Unless government took some effort (like closing the traffic or some such), people are unlikely to notice or care. It would definitely depend on the media coverage and availability for public. If it's a closed event (like I think it is), perhaps even with little to no media coverage (for secrecy / security), then city on average isn't that likely to notice.

Hmm... What would stand out... Depends on where we arrive, definitely. The city is big, as I said. The center has lots of historical buildings, Kremlin is something to notice. Also in the center she could potentially see cathedral of Christ the Savior, Red square (though I'm not sure if Mausoleum would still be there and occupied). As an engineer she might appreciate Moscow's metro (subway) which is both an engineering and a cultural achievement (see photos, most of the stations are quite beautiful). That's just what she might see / hear about during transfer from airport (not that she'll have to use subway, of course)

Hmm... What to say about the city. It's big. It's busy. It's (at the moment) almost permanently on the brink of transport collapse. There are a lot of things in Moscow (several nuclear reactors, particle accelerators, parks and museums, research institutes and old palaces). It's very busy, that I can say.

Hmm, hope this is helpful.

 

[Alanek]

It's also insulting that everyone in the galaxy besides us is retarded. After all, like Hoyr (?) said - once Arc Reactors were on the market what was stopping someone from buying one and just sticking it onto existing DEW tech? Nothing. Similar concepts apply elsewhere, even if it isn't quite the same. It's also been pointed out that they (esp. the Asari) should be making techs not on our tree.

It isn't about copying us and negating our hard work or whatever - it's about the galaxy not being static, because they should be innovating too.


Revy is awesome, but it isn't fair to hand everyone else the idiotball.

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On the DEW, the issue is heat and range, not the power required.

 

[Van Ropen]

On the DEW, the issue is heat and range, not the power required.

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Mmm, no? Heat is an issue for performance in general, but I thought the thing preventing small DEWs was power.

 

[Amberion]

Attenuation is also a problem. At longer ranges, the beam is dispersed.