SayakaQuest Thread 10: Glory To The Death
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NitroFumetsu
Blaze of Glory
So, what would be the merits of explaining the parallels between how...uh, Tomo, was it? Tomo contracted despite repeated warnings from ourselves, Kyouko, and even the friend she contracted to help in the first place, and knowing Madoka I really wouldn't put it past her to do the same thing. And then we use that to explain how scared Homura is. The scare suddenly isn't at the power of Walrus, it is for Madoka.
This is a situation we want to handle with kid gloves. Leaving aside everyone else, the reason we've been avoiding Madoka conversations is that a bad conversation with her can literally be quest-ending, bad end, do not pass go.
In light of that, let's try and defuse the Pinkbomb carefully rather than cramming everything into the first post.
In light of that, let's try and defuse the Pinkbomb carefully rather than cramming everything into the first post.
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Suggestion for an expansion of Ug's vote:
'She wanted to protect you. She was scared, Madoka. Scared for you, about how you'd react, that you'd decide to contract in order to fight Walpurgisnacht- and you can't tell me that that's not a fear with no reason for it. You doesn't want to see you having to suffer like she does, like we do, or even worse. Magical Girls... we live by our relationships, I think. If I lost Kyouko or she lost me, neither of us would last long- just the thought of it is... terrifying. And Homura's been doing this a lot longer than either of us, and you're the first real person she's connected to in that time. What do you think the idea of you being hurt, or losing you must be like to her?'
It's very rough and unpolished, and I'm pretty sure it's saying too much (i.e. we're saying so much it sounds like we're trying to cover something up), but it's an idea for a sort of vague path of argument I could possibly see working. Either that or traumatising Madoka/pushing her into contracting- one of the two.
'She wanted to protect you. She was scared, Madoka. Scared for you, about how you'd react, that you'd decide to contract in order to fight Walpurgisnacht- and you can't tell me that that's not a fear with no reason for it. You doesn't want to see you having to suffer like she does, like we do, or even worse. Magical Girls... we live by our relationships, I think. If I lost Kyouko or she lost me, neither of us would last long- just the thought of it is... terrifying. And Homura's been doing this a lot longer than either of us, and you're the first real person she's connected to in that time. What do you think the idea of you being hurt, or losing you must be like to her?'
It's very rough and unpolished, and I'm pretty sure it's saying too much (i.e. we're saying so much it sounds like we're trying to cover something up), but it's an idea for a sort of vague path of argument I could possibly see working. Either that or traumatising Madoka/pushing her into contracting- one of the two.
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I had some ideas along that front too...since we did tell her about it way back when, at the same time as we did the Tokyo 6.
Hmmm give me a sec and I'll butcher the vote a bit too...how about this bit though?
[x]We told her about it. We should have talked to her about it more, and we've kind of been a shitty friend but...we didn't want to think about it either. We're sorry.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Problems with this vote: how did we know about Walmartnight, and if we knew about it why did we let Homura lead the conversation? Not to mention that I'm not sure how good Sayaka is at lying.
The thing is we did tell her about it so it's completely truthful, I don't see what part of the vote would come off as dishonest?
That said, both possible additions need to be handled with care.
Well, we knew of it, but Homura's the most knowledgeable of us about it. Makes sense to let the person who knows the most do the talking. Figured the knowledge would help make up for the usual Homuplomancy. As for how we knew about it, we managed to get it from Homura at some point. All true, and all cover the points in question.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
The bit where... oh, wait I see. I misinterpreted the first bit, 'We told her about it', as us saying we told Homura about Walpurgisnacht's existence, not that we told Madoka about it earlier in the quest. Damned indefinite articles...
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Hm...
"She wanted to protect you" is problematic because the issue here's that Madoka realized Homura's been keeping things from her to do just that. Plus anything that feeds into her martyr/ "I want to be useful, not just someone to be protected" complex is risky at best.
I got nothing. I don't think we can really do much right now with a full speech that doesn't risk making things worse.
[q]Let's ask ourselves...WWTBD. What would the Blueberry do.
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Could be. Of course, just because he has something in mind doesn't mean it'll be something that's good for us... or it could just be a case of him assuming we'd come up with a write-in/approach anyway.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Perhaps though I don't think we'd be put in a worse position then we we're. I'd rather see what Moid has in mind then work with that.
I think we'll have to be cautious until we see her reaction. We can always expand later, but a speech right off the bat might be a misstep. There're good ideas in there, but...yeah.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
I agree that instant speech is probably not the best idea- like I said before, it makes it seem like we're trying too hard, trying to cover something up. Which actually is what we're doing, to be fair, but there's no a reason to be stupid about it.
So for now, at least:
[X] SAYAKA INTERRUPT.
Schwer-Muta
A Shy Arrogance
...because she asked to?
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
That question was based on me misunderstanding who the 'her' was referring to in that vote (i.e. first read through I thought it meant Homura)- I thought the vote was saying we should lie and say that we were the ones who originally knew about Waluginapkin, and that we told Homura about it. In that context it's a valid question, but it was based on me misreading/misunderstanding who the vote was referring to in the first sentence and thus that context was not correct.
Mister Bad Guy
Mr Mercury to friends
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[X] SAYAKA INTERRUPT.
-[X] Use Ugo's write-in if possible.
