Why isn't there a "Grrr" *shakes fist* like button?And onyx path runs white wolf not the other way around iirc, wouldnt they have the final say on what's canon? hell the splatbooks should probably be disregarded when they contradict the anthology.
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Frakir's brother
Goodbye.
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Anyone know anything about the Yozi born from He Who Bleeds The Unknown Word? I couldn't find much.
Elloge, the sphere of speech and the entity that was born after the death of he Who Bleeds The Unknown word.
Righty, give me a bit.
Aleph
Princess of Stabbity
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- The sixth circle of Hell (second on weekends)
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- She/Her
Kerisgame! In which we spent a fair amount of the session having an in-character discussion about how different Infernals conceptualise and implement the development of Heretical charms, and I found it highly amusing that Sasi basically uses a Silurian/Devonian paradigm for her Sorcery despite her Past Life literally being Salina, whereas Keris uses a weird instinctive Salinian-Kimberian mashup that she's largely figured out on her own. Or if you like oMage terms better; Sasi is a very precise Hermetic who needs to account for every variable and plot out the structure of a spell in minute detail and Keris is a Verbana/CoXer who throws in "blood sacrifice" whenever a Sorcerous recipe seems like it could use some spicing up [1].
... and then Sasi probably violated some sort of human rights treaty by siccing a bored Keris (who is prone to finding or making her own entertainment) on a bunch of comparatively innocent mortal smugglers, who she found in the space of one morning and then committed arson and possibly murder against. Which apparently wasn't interesting enough to satisfy her, because then she went and did some public vandalism. Tch. Kids these days, honestly. Can you believe them? I blame the par-oh right, yes, never mind then.
[1] Keris: *smacks lips* "Hmm. Needs more souls of the guilty. Hang on, lemme go get a slaver."
... and then Sasi probably violated some sort of human rights treaty by siccing a bored Keris (who is prone to finding or making her own entertainment) on a bunch of comparatively innocent mortal smugglers, who she found in the space of one morning and then committed arson and possibly murder against. Which apparently wasn't interesting enough to satisfy her, because then she went and did some public vandalism. Tch. Kids these days, honestly. Can you believe them? I blame the par-oh right, yes, never mind then.
[1] Keris: *smacks lips* "Hmm. Needs more souls of the guilty. Hang on, lemme go get a slaver."
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
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- Bottom of the barrel
Hey, if Onyx Path can't bother to keep a basic level of quality control in their exalted products, especially those they gave us as kickstarter rewards I'm gonna keep mocking them for it. Especially if they turn around later and try and sell the Anthrology as an exalted product.
Otherwise we get 2e all over again!
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And 2E's dice system was still more accessible than 3E. All those fucking reroller charms, who in their right mind thought that they'd be fun? Or that there needed to be more than one in a singe tree, I mean you could at least fuse them all together an make the repurchases or auto-upgrades based on Essence score.
earthboy
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Can you please find a way to mock them that doesn't actively misinform nice innocent strangers?
Wait, wait, wait. Sasi has Salina as her Past Life? Has this been relevant yet? Because it's kind of important to the setting.
azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
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How is it important to the setting?
Salina is dead, yo. Who has Sasi's Exaltation before her isn't important to the setting.
Aleph
Princess of Stabbity
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- She/Her
Nope. WoG only. Keris certainly doesn't know - heck, I'm not sure Sasi knows, for that matter. Keris hasn't really talked to her about Yamal Icewind or Arumoh, and probably won't until one or both bite her in the ass again and she has another hilarious Past Life flashback.
But yes, Kerisgame canon is that Sasimana's Past Life was Salina. She is, uh. Rather dismissive and critical of the woman, who she does not hold a particularly high opinion of. Keris, on the other hand, rather appreciates how helpful she was in letting anyone learn Sorcery by just listening to the currents of rivers and tasting the entrails of birds and so on.
Kinda hard not to be.
Salina was batshit crazy.
Which seems to be an opinion held by.....uh...every character I've seen who has "Has Salina's Exaltation" as part of their story.
Roadie
A plate full of blins and a cat nearby.
You've got your company relations mixed up here.
After CCP bought White Wolf, they gradually drained every resource out of it to work on their MMOs, and when they cancelled the vaporware WoD MMO, they fired everybody who was at White Wolf. Currently, White Wolf is just an empty shell owned by CCP.
Onyx Path was formed by employees of White Wolf who saw the writing on the wall when things were winding down. They subsequently used money from their own pocket to license some White Wolf properties and outright buy others.
Conceptually, I've always felt that Salina's Exaltation works best when it goes to an Infernal or an Abyssal. The Infernal use is clear - that makes them a Malefactor, and hence the LAAAAAAAW clashes with her memories. The Abyssal use is more... mmm, twisted. Because when an Abyssal has it, a Loyalist can interpret her beliefs with "the only way for true equality is the equality of Oblivion, where all things are equally non-existent". And then you have a crazy Midnight who plans to destroy this corrupt, unequal world and is spouting correct Salinian justifications for why the only moral thing to do in this corrupt, unfair world is to destroy it.
Compared to those two, it's kind of dull in the hands of a Solar.
Aaron Peori
Rest in Peace
Indeed.
Because in Sane Exalted doing something like the Salinian Working requires someone to organize all the meta-sorcerous muscle of the entire Solar Deliberative, rather than just using a single Essence 10 Lore Charm. Thus, she was a social monster, not a sorcerous prodigy.
It's also a statement about reasons for the Working- a Twilight may have attempted the Working to preserve knowledge, while Salina performed it as a deliberate blow against the Principle of Heirachy.
Remember, she wanted to outright remove restrictions on who could learn the various Circles of Sorcery.
Remember, she wanted to outright remove restrictions on who could learn the various Circles of Sorcery.
earthboy
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Salina: "My great Working is done! The hands of the proletariat are now clearly grasping the means of destruction!"
Kejak: "The book says they should grasp the means of production."
Salina: "Well ... uh... I'll just have to change the book!"
Kejak: "Not again."
Aleph
Princess of Stabbity
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- The sixth circle of Hell (second on weekends)
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- She/Her
No single place, no. Uh... we use quite a few Infernal Charm hacks and homebrew, including Pantheon Heresy and the Fourth Soul rewrite, plus a heavily altered Reclamation with a very different Lilunu that style Infernals more as Sidereal foils than Solar ones. We use a chopped-up and condensed Attribute/Ability system, as well as replacing Martial Arts with the Style system and Intimacies/Motivations with Principles. We also have lesser magical materials and demythologised Artifacts and use Revlid's elementals. Uh... hmm. Oh, we also use the sublimati, a bit of oMage "paradigm" stuff has wormed its way in to describe different approaches to Charm-learning at a fluff level, and we cleave quite closely to the "hunter-seeker murder weapon" view of Exaltations, though ironically the actual gameplay is mostly fairly low-key.
And holy shit, this is link and reference city, so I'll just remember this post for if I ever need to find stuff. @EarthScorpion, anything you can think of that I've missed, off the top of your head?
Well, she actually had to be both, because she needed a theory of where to start from that she could lead the Deliberative into making functional. Just having the basic summary of it we get, which is all a non-sorceror could figure out, would not be enough to catch the interest if a skilled enough Twilight to get it working.
Aaron Peori
Rest in Peace
She needed to be a sorceress, but not the sorceress, if you get my meaning.
Basically, she's the Richard Dawkins of the Exalted cosmos. Brilliant scientists, mainly skilled at communicating their expertise to laymen, huge chips on their shoulders, kind of an asshole.
…that makes more sense than it should.
Honestly, with some of my more recent character ideas (I have a LOT of character ideas) I've been moving away from past lives as a major individual factor in general. The past two 'out-there' character ideas I had (Crimson Orphan of Adorjan and the amnesiac Twilight Caste who looks exactly like Her Redness- the second one got kinda swamped in Type-Moon crossover discussion
) I've got no fixed idea of their past lives- indeed, the drama in their lives would come from their current lives almost exclusively.