Give 'em a day guys, jeez! (Is secretly hoping for a ship that drills through the ground of the bombed out Underworld Blessed Isle)
Drill based land battleship are just going to make everyone think of Gurren Laggan.

That said a bone based ship that drills through the ground always desperately pushing on towards the surface to save its crew even though they all died could be oddly tragic.
 
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LAURELS-AND-IVY TECHNIQUE
Prerequisites: Essence 4, Perception 4
A few Lunars learn to assume the shapes of plants and other non-animal life. This Knack adds "plants" to the list of valid targets for the sacred hunt. Hunting a plant requires the character to meditate in the presence of many such plants for a base time of 12 hours. When the Lunar changes, he becomes a plant of approximately equal mass—many creepers of ivy or a small tree.
Lunar Exalted in the form of plants have only limited perception. They suffer a -2 internal penalty to all attempts to detect their surroundings. In plant form, a Lunar is constantly Inactive in any form of combat, but the character may change this at will by changing shape.
What even is the point of this knack?!
 
It would be more useful if it was E2 so that you could use it as a spirit form Knack and be an Ent, but Lunars were too married to being incandescent Werewolves.
 
Use stealth form, infiltrate gardens or similar area at time of low security when you know target of opportunity will be present. Eat existing plant in area. Become plant. Wait. Killer trees then happen
 
Use stealth form, infiltrate gardens or similar area at time of low security when you know target of opportunity will be present. Eat existing plant in area. Become plant. Wait. Killer trees then happen
Yeah, as has been said before. It's useful if a bit niche. There are shitty knacks, like the stretchy arm one, but this particular one is fairly benign.
 
yeah, and it doesn't even let you copy a specific plant, you turn into a mass of plants of approximately equal size to yourself. So that 100 year old oak tree? you turn into a person sized oak tree. A field of grass. Hell, unless you're a djala, you can't even turn into a single fern! I'm not even sure if you can turn into an example of a rare plant and have people harvest you! Don't parts of shapechanged Lunars that are separated from their main body turn back into their natural form?
 
yeah, and it doesn't even let you copy a specific plant, you turn into a mass of plants of approximately equal size to yourself. So that 100 year old oak tree? you turn into a person sized oak tree. A field of grass. Hell, unless you're a djala, you can't even turn into a single fern! I'm not even sure if you can turn into an example of a rare plant and have people harvest you! Don't parts of shapechanged Lunars that are separated from their main body turn back into their natural form?
Wow. That's.... even worse than before. This is just embarassing.
Honestly I'd, just de-couple Lunar's from animals and reattach them to monsters in general. Let them have spirit forms based on Yetis, Vampires, werewolves(if they want it) and Unicorns and Swamp-Monsters or Chimera and Basilisks.
Yeah. Just give them the faces of those outside civilization. Like baba yaga or somethin"
 
yeah, and it doesn't even let you copy a specific plant, you turn into a mass of plants of approximately equal size to yourself. So that 100 year old oak tree? you turn into a person sized oak tree. A field of grass. Hell, unless you're a djala, you can't even turn into a single fern! I'm not even sure if you can turn into an example of a rare plant and have people harvest you! Don't parts of shapechanged Lunars that are separated from their main body turn back into their natural form?
Plants have roots, all the extra mass can be underground. A single fern with a huge root system, a stump sprouting new shoots, a sapling, a bed of moss, a creeper. Your mass still gives you lots of options.
 
Plants have roots, all the extra mass can be underground. A single fern with a huge root system, a stump sprouting new shoots, a sapling, a bed of moss, a creeper. Your mass still gives you lots of options.
Ok, I get that. But you also get an equal, if not superior amount of spying capability by turning into a mouse or something equally innocuous.

This just seems like a thing that ended up being wordcount padding more than anything else.
 
yeah, and it doesn't even let you copy a specific plant, you turn into a mass of plants of approximately equal size to yourself. So that 100 year old oak tree? you turn into a person sized oak tree. A field of grass. Hell, unless you're a djala, you can't even turn into a single fern! I'm not even sure if you can turn into an example of a rare plant and have people harvest you! Don't parts of shapechanged Lunars that are separated from their main body turn back into their natural form?

Parts of your plant self might be okay. Like spider lunar can spin webs. Fruit might work.
 
Parts of your plant self might be okay. Like spider lunar can spin webs. Fruit might work.
I rather think that someone plucking a celestial peach from your branches, because you spend a week in Yu Shan once and meditated near one, should have the result of someone getting a handful of your reproductive organs instead of a blessing of youth.
 
Ok, I get that. But you also get an equal, if not superior amount of spying capability by turning into a mouse or something equally innocuous.

This just seems like a thing that ended up being wordcount padding more than anything else.
Plants aren't good for spying, but if a Wyld Hunt is chasing you and you manage to break line of sight, startle a bird and turn into a plant. Lunar Anathema are known for becoming animals, not plants.
Yes but... that doesn't mean much. Sure, conservation of mass is dealt with..... but what about everything else?
? I don't get what you are saying here.
Parts of your plant self might be okay. Like spider lunar can spin webs. Fruit might work.
Turning into a plant is a solution looking for a problem.
As a plant, you get near perfect stealth and regen. If you are badly hurt and hunted, turning into a tree for a couple decades sounds like a good idea.
I rather think that someone plucking a celestial peach from your branches, because you spend a week in Yu Shan once and meditated near one, should have the result of someone getting a handful of your reproductive organs instead of a blessing of youth.
While funny, I think losing an organ because someone plucked a fruit is bad gameplay. I'd say that it just wouldn't be magical without an upgrade knack.
 
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