Mersy, please, a single idea per paragraph. Walls of text block attempts at understanding.
so ladies and gentlemen, we are here again, discussing the update and trying to make plans. But let's go back a little and try to figure out what we have, what knowledge we have and how we will proceed further.
Let's start with what's really important. Attention of the master and princesses. You may not immediately understand my concern, but do not worry, you will understand everything over time. So. If we assume that we are almost an open book for the master, and what he definitely knows about our discontent and insecurity, we need to think about where we can go if we are caught hot. we're not ready for the Outcast scenario. Both morally and physically and according to knowledge.
I would argue that we are not an open book to the Master. They have implied that they know about Luna (or at least that is how Velvet understood the conversation) but Jade might have a point about how they lack empathy. They could know that we are keeping secrets and what they are yet be completely wrong about the why.
Many people say that in this case we need to go to the princesses, but, oops, we already missed our chance to painlessly (relatively) go into their retinue. We still have a chance to get closer to the Master, but in that case we won't survive Celestia's indignation (and I don't want to cut off such a useful communication channel. And Kazhens don't want to offend ... Even if it's stupid).
Who the hay is Kazhens?
Further. Selena, Family and our environment. In essence, we are slowly but surely acquiring more and more connections and acquaintances. We can hurt them if we make the wrong decision ... We've already done that. There are cultists around us. We ourselves are. It is our fault that the ponies continue to die. we are drawing more and more ponies into this abyss, because we KNOW how to call them. And Selena. We chose the longest and most painful option (at the moment) for her out of our mercy. I'm not saying it's bad. It's Risky. but suffering makes us fight and grow stronger. Everyone knows this. (By the way, I propose to give the next lesson to Selena on the topic of the Edge. She needs to learn to fight. To stand for herself and for the world.)
That was a bit of a melodramatic way to say "we should be more careful when planning our socials less we hurt ponies by either being insensitive or bringing them into a dangerous situation".
That say I would argue two thing about the opinion about Selene. The first is that I am not sure this is really the most painful option. That would have been to try and restore her memories without teaching her enough lore to handle the memories. Or to bring her as a young mare and mishandle our husband reveal, which might have lead the ponyservants to believe that she is either our or Stormchaser's lover.
As for edge, it might be worth it to teach it to her but not to teach her to fight. Edge is about confrontation, which also involves in part social combat.
And the last point that I would like to mention. Velvet. The further all this happens, the more chances we will be able to see in her the familiar symptoms like the Horror of Ozarinius or Anxiety. And I would not be surprised if the latter is about to arise for her. For what is happening around her and through her fault will really go beyond the bounds. Or rather, it crawls out of bounds about her idea of the norm. It will be hard.
Again, who the hay is Ozarinius and why should I be familiar with them?
And probably the last thing I want to mention. her affiliation. We know that her main aspect is the Moth, and so far everything seems to be fine. but I'm more interested in its secondary aspects. I will tell you my suggestions, and then you will agree with me or not. And her secondary knowledge in my opinion is Knock and Winter. Based mainly on the events shown to us. Knock - for let's be honest, we are surprisingly good at penetrating the souls of ponies, opening their hearts. And think for yourself, Velvet is the first pony besides the moon who managed to find its way to the kingdom of dreams ... And her very road to the door of the moon is proof of this. And winter ... Just at the level of feelings that this is her element (I still remember her work as the coordinator of the guards). Yes, and the first lesson to Selena (even if it's completely our choice, but still ... We all strive so much for Winter for peace ... For a beautiful end for Jade.) Thank you for listening to me) Good luck to everyone.
There are several things to comment about this.
First, the assumption that Moth is Velvet's primary focus. We used it a lot, true, but the same could be said for Secret Histories and Velvet has affinity for all of them. Moth is the
cult's main aspect, not necessarily Velvet's.
Even discarding that, the arguments for Winter are mistaken. The beautiful end, in relation to Winter, means death. That is the main thing about that lore. The important part of the phrase beutiful ending is not the beautiful but the ending part. The fact that we are so worried about the ponies we care about surviving should be a strong indicator that, if Velvet had such a thing as primary and secondary aspects, Winter would not be it.
For Knock, it is about opening things. Finding the way is more a Secret Histories thing. Finding our their wants might count as Knock, but it might as well count as Grail since you need to know their desires to fulfill them and their main use in the quest so far was about making them want the same things we do (like them telling us their issues). Or Lantern since it is about uncovering the truth.
Edit:
As a MOTH we are attracted to his light, his love, his being.
And we cannot help but reveal ourselves before him, shedding our mysteries and secrets, and await the glare that was to come.
We hoped.
We dared to hope.
That while he might run, that he might yet... leave.
That he would choose to stay with his MOTH, and make our days that bit brighter.
That he would accept what may come, and stay by our side all the stronger, leading the way with his sight.
A MOTH and her LANTERN.
(I mean, I wasn't there for the vote itself, but this is what I got from that discussion)
Why do people insist on trying to use the Lores to justify all our actions? (rhetorical question, it is because it is fun)
Anyways, that is not what I got from the discussion. What I got was that a) the more we postponed it, the worse it would be b) He deserved to know that we were putting the family in a dangerous situation c) if we told him about the end of the world, he would probably focus on helping us stop that instead of the fact that we are technically a terrorist and d) he loves us so he would probably support us and give us an extra confidant action.
