I've been kind of curious why none of the major villages have used the 40 years of civil war as an excuse to use "police action" on "humanitarian grounds" to set up a client state. I was kind of wondering if the concept of war crimes was even a thing, or if the scale of the conflict only seemed significant because of the insider POV. But given those numbers and the fact that Emiko seems to think this war is unusually brutal it seems that it wouldn't be that hard to justify an invasion, particularly since the family of the old Daimyo lives on in exile.
End of an Era (Naruto AU)
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A point, though to note, the war isn't usually this brutal or *everyone* would be dead. The last month has killed more people than the previous half-year, which is to say, yes, that this war is hell, but it's been descending to a crescendo of violence that many hope is final, the dying gasps of this war and their inevitable victory.
The effect of the traitor working multiple sides to escalate I figure, otherwise it'd be a long exchange of fruitless probing.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
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The beauty of a starry night. The ugliness of a broken puppet. Also the bloodied teammate besides us, but mainly the puppet.
Our social stat at it's best. It's so weird Shizue doesn't have more Friends.
Also, you could have captured all enemy jounin, stopped the war and brought peace on earth. But don't worry Genta, we forgive you.
I kind of suspected he had to push his mind since that time we went to him to ask for help in the investigation and he mentioned it could be good training, but I thought it was something more akin to that the powers of the Shomeigan appeared gradually and became stronger the more you used them, hence why he had great observation abilities already. This... paints everything in a different light. In my previous theory, the case was that he had already awakened the Shomeigan but didn't have all the powers, so he wanted to fight the chunin to awake the combat related goodies of his bloodline. Knowing he had a time limit, and the consequences if he couldn't awaken it, explains a lot of why he was so desperate.
Plus, it's intersting how the particularities of how to get the Shomeigan makes him look like a better person. Normally, if the consequences were that if he failed to get it now he never would, one would take it as way more severe of a punishment tan two weeks of a headache. Here, it would only make him look like an asshole, since it would be that "he is desperate because he doesn't get to be special" instead of "he is desperate because he won't be able to help in the village direst time of need". If he really didn't care about everyone, he would be thinking among the lines of "well, at worst I can try again". As it is, his motivation are more hero-like.
Though I find a bit weird how the time limit Works. Normally, if I tried to think of a time limit for a bloodline it would be of the nature of that you can't get it after certain age.
That's the difference between Shizue and Genta against Ookie and Rika. Shizue says she thinks of him as a friend, that she considered him as a friend, and they could be friends now. The latter two would have said that they are friends. Period. Shizue and Genta see human relationships as far more complicated than other children their age.
And now you got me curious about where and how the jounin live. Isn't there a tv show displaying the houses of famous shinobi?
The welcome mat is a pressure plate. Trap teacher?
How many times must have happened for that to be his first asumption? More to the point, how many times for him to feel the need of placing a sign telling people not to know on his door at three in the morning? He must have been really polite to civilians if they felt safe enough to do so.
Add paranoia to the list of menta disorders. Also, this is hilarious.
Words of wisdom from Zenzo-sensei and a nice touch for a special jounin.
As it was later said, we were lucky to have more evidence if we rolled a 1. Also, since the GM commented this was the guy more likely to believe us with just numbers, does that mean that he had to be convinced it is true and thus is not the traitor? Or am I looking too much into this?
Yeah, that is the reaction you could expect given the difference in skills we saw in the fight. Which means Ichiman is really a badass.
I also like how Genta delivers the news. "Oh by the way, we captured an elite enemy fighter. It was nice" Very nonchallant.
Yeah, you tell them Shizue! You have the highest speech related skills in the group, as sad as that is!
Oh, and "them"? Should we add multiple personality to Zenzo's list or is Okiie just using an idiom?
THAT is how you explain it, Genta and Okiie. Though it was nice of Genta to add an index to the report. Gold star.
I still don't trust Zenzo. By taking over the investigation like that he can block us if he is the traitor while keeping tabs in what we know. Also, he seems really ambitious to chase after so many leads on his own.
An interesting thought though. If he discovers the traitor and it isn't him, does he seem like the type to expose him/her or to give false information to the spy?
Again with the ego, Genta. Where do you get the confidence for that? I thought the ambush was your last chance.
On that note, assuming Zenzo believes the rather extraordinary claim that Genta has a bloodline and that he will actívate it in a time limit he knows about, when he is in fact an orphan who arrived to the island with no memories of his past... is it wise to tell him that?
Alright. A ninja must know how to keep secrets. Should be easy enough.
Shizue, manipulating her fellow genin. I am so proud!
It is the second fight in which something goes badly due to the Yaramachi. It could be because he was promoted early and his skills are not up to par. It couldalso be lies and he refused to follow the orders. For example, if there were civilians on the line. Or if he is the traitor. Or it could be sabotaje. Maybe someday we will find out.
Another thing we get from this fragment, the Eviserator is increasing his rep. Is he a possible Mid-Boss?
SHIZUE! One thing! They asked you one thing! You didn't last a day!
Well, at least she didn't reveal what he confessed which is the most important part. It wasn't going to stay secret for long that they had a prisioner, but as long as she doesn't tell everyone about the confirmed traitor it should be ok.
That is some dedication, to begin training again two days after the butchering she received. Her father has reason to be worried.
What the hell does her father writte to her about? Whenever she mentions him he is going about some different analysis of the situation. The post office must be earning a fortune delivering their letters with how often do they seem to write to each other. On the bright side it is clear how important they are to each other.
"I need to train physically. And by "I" I mean my puppets"
I love how everyone here took our best friend coming out of the closet in stride, without making yuri jokes or a big deal about it. I would, but it is a Little late and I have to wake up early.
I'm really starting to wonder what's the deal with that girl. Also, why the higher ups are so fixated with her.
It's not treason if they were never one your side.
Not to mention that if the traitor wants to damage the village, setting it against the uber ninja would be a hell of a way to do so. They would probably die in short order from pissing off said uber ninja by making her take the fall.
This is the moment Genta confirmed us as a friend. Also, I wonder how this played out. If Genta had know beforehand that Emiko was going to put us in danger, I don't think that he would have agreed, or that it would have worked. So probably Emiko asked him to bring us specially. After telling us to be his friend. It could be unrelated, or it could have been planned way beforehand.
I am not convinced by the scene that follows. It felt rushed, and kind of forced. Emiko's act wasn't very convincing from the reader point of view, I think.
Also, I think every college student can atestiguate in favor of last minute cramming.
The sudden 180° turn of her personality doesn't really fit her. Specially considering how hard was stated that it was to make a ninja of her caliber show her emotions. Maybe cold, calculating killing intent? Giving you the certainty she would do it, not because she was angry but because it's her mission? Not sure if I'm making sense...
That's some oddly specific information. I do hope it's because he had been Reading that in the past month, because who the hell -besides Rika's dad- would know those things? Or look for them? Either Reef's library is really big and Genta has been trying to randomly memoriz things for training or the Shomeigan has bullshit divination powers.
Well, you could see it coming that she didn't like the village. Though I wonder if this comment was related to the fish girl thing.
The hand is not a vital organ, so it would be more exact to say that she was going to cripple him. Not even sure that he would bleed out before the wound clots. But that's just me nitpicking.
Now that I think of it, we moved our hand by own volition, right? Unless Emiko knew we were going to do that, what was the point of asking for us to be here? Well, when genjutsu is on the table everything is posible, so maybe we were plan B if he didn't answer before illusionary kunai pirced his hand.
The really freaky thing about the shomeigan is that he recalls things from before awakening it. The sharingan gives you the ability to copy and memorize what you see with it, but these eyes give you better analitical powers and perfect recollection, but not because you understand better what you are seeing or you are seeing more details. So nothing strictly visual so far. Well, the rinnegan's powers weren't exactly eye related either.
And now she acts like a good person. What's the reason she is so invested in this?
Probability of Emiko doing backstabbing to our jounins intensifies. Also, unless Genta has Heard Iwa's accent before that's not a deduction, but blindly believing the other genin's Word.
Also, doesn't matter how you act or what you said some minutes before when you have genjutsu. Convincing people becomes far easier when you can make them feel what you want.
Seems it will be some time before we see the full benefits of the Shomeigan. Ranmaru was such a sickly child he could barely move, and he could keep it nearly constantly activated. That means the level of the Shomeigan shown in the anime was so high that the chakra use was minimal. So if Genta wants those awesome powers he better start leveling it.
Or maybe it's the other way around. Maybe Ranmaru was so sick because he used the Shomeigan so much that his chakra levels were on the floor. Food for thought.
He looked at ALL the data. Considering his eyes, maybe literally (advantages of perfect recollection vs perfectly memorizing what you see while activated).
Later we must ask him to explain his reasoning. For some reason I don't think that "my magic eye told me so" is going to convince a lot of people that that is the most reasonable explanation.
Could work for carácter development. In a "getting close to the civilians->understand them better->emphatize->realize you are fighting for their sake->bring change to the world" sort of way.
Unquestioned.
Just realized we could also use this to look at the different tokubetsu jounin and have a feel of how they are, plus the possiility of maybe getting some training.
After a closer look, the Yaramachi boy doesn't seem to like us a lot. I still want to aproach him, but maybe we need a plan first.
Seriously, we had a direct order about not telling anyone about this. Does the traitor really need to be high Rank when secrets are known so easily?
After re-Reading, this has piqued my interest. Might have been worthwhile chasing these leads
Now this depends of Zenzo. I still don't thrust him, he is going to srew us somehow.
Haha! Stupid Toyo.
BFF is an overachiever.
Need to rise ninjutsu.
Seallessly. Nuff said.
Might be useful in the future, but body replacement is a priority in my opinon. Need to rise ninutsu AND chakra control.
We need to get Genta some Curry of Life.
Thus we must befriend the Island shinobi, so we can attack more with a single action! That's the meaning of friendship in the shinobi world!
That's a lot of people for sure. In proportionally to their original numbers the shinoi have lost more people, but only because there were so few of them to begin with, but civilian deaths are still several times more.
After re-read, I decided I want to change my action vote. I think vote is already closed, so it's more of a simbolical thing, I guess.
[X] [Action] Plan Velocirampage
-[X] [Action] Repair Stinger.
-[X] [Action] Continue the investigation. (Choose ONE free, each additional investigation action costs ½ of a total week action.)
--[X] [Action] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
-[X] [Action] Go to Emiko.
--[X] [Action] Try to learn more about the code or what she might know.
--[X] [Action] It's not necessarily related, but what about the...runaway Tide Genin she might have smuggled out?
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
[X] [XP]Body Replacement Technique Rank 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 1 - Puppetry
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison, traps
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Intelligence
I'm not totally sure, but I think plans "winding down" and "we can rebuild him" won?
Arkatekt
Harbinger of Shitluck
So, First thing, I'd like to ask that in the future, anyone who changes their votes, to go back and take the Xs out of the votes on the old posts. The reason being, that Nettally is counting people twice for several options. (May be due to how Task Notation is tallied)
Second, I figured out why this tally looks so fucked up. We screwed up Task Notation.
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
-[X] [XP]Body Replacement Technique Rank 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 1 - Puppetry
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison, traps
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Intelligence
With Task Notation, this vote block will have all lines counted as seperate votes, rather than the clean Block we want.
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
-[X] Body Replacement Technique Rank 3
-[X] Priority 1 - Puppetry
-[X] Priority 2 - Poison, traps
-[X] Priority 3 - Intelligence
This Vote block has the entire thing counted as the same vote, and comes out looking significantly cleaner than the above. (this is what we wanted when Task Notation was used)
The difference between it coming out like this
Finally, for this tally, I cut out all of the doubled votes by hand, moved the Plan names to the top of their respective sections, and removed the excess for the XP vote since there were only three plans, and all were named.
Here is the raw version if you want to look at it.
Second, I figured out why this tally looks so fucked up. We screwed up Task Notation.
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
-[X] [XP]Body Replacement Technique Rank 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 1 - Puppetry
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison, traps
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Intelligence
With Task Notation, this vote block will have all lines counted as seperate votes, rather than the clean Block we want.
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
-[X] Body Replacement Technique Rank 3
-[X] Priority 1 - Puppetry
-[X] Priority 2 - Poison, traps
-[X] Priority 3 - Intelligence
This Vote block has the entire thing counted as the same vote, and comes out looking significantly cleaner than the above. (this is what we wanted when Task Notation was used)
The difference between it coming out like this
and like this
Finally, for this tally, I cut out all of the doubled votes by hand, moved the Plan names to the top of their respective sections, and removed the excess for the XP vote since there were only three plans, and all were named.
Vote Tally : End of an Era (Naruto AU) | Page 42 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.1.23
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Task: Action
[X] [Action] Plan Winding Down
No. of Votes: 5
[X] [Action] Plan Velocirampage
No. of Votes: 2
-[X] [Action] Repair Stinger.
No. of Votes: 7
-[X] [Action] Continue the investigation. (Choose ONE free, each additional investigation action costs ½ of a total week action.)
No. of Votes: 7
--[X] [Action] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
No. of Votes: 7
-[X] [Action] Talks to her fellow genin (choose two)
No. of Votes: 5
--[X] [Action] Rika
No. of Votes: 5
--[X] [Action] Okiie
No. of Votes: 5
--[X] [Action] Junko
No. of Votes: 5
-[X] [Action] Go to Emiko.
No. of Votes: 2
--[X] [Action] Try to learn more about the code or what she might know.
No. of Votes: 2
--[X] [Action] It's not necessarily related, but what about the...runaway Tide Genin she might have smuggled out?
No. of Votes: 2
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Task: Xp
[X] [XP] Plan We Can Rebuild Him
No. of Votes: 4
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
No. of Votes: 3
[X] XP Plan Sneaky Puppetry
[X] Upgrade Ninja Art: Piercing Note
[X] Upgrade Cloak of Invisibility Technique
[X] Upgrade Water Release: Thin Mist Technique
[X] Primary: Puppetry
[X] Secondary: Genjutsu
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 8
##### NetTally 1.1.23
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Task: Action
[X] [Action] Plan Winding Down
No. of Votes: 5
[X] [Action] Plan Velocirampage
No. of Votes: 2
-[X] [Action] Repair Stinger.
No. of Votes: 7
-[X] [Action] Continue the investigation. (Choose ONE free, each additional investigation action costs ½ of a total week action.)
No. of Votes: 7
--[X] [Action] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
No. of Votes: 7
-[X] [Action] Talks to her fellow genin (choose two)
No. of Votes: 5
--[X] [Action] Rika
No. of Votes: 5
--[X] [Action] Okiie
No. of Votes: 5
--[X] [Action] Junko
No. of Votes: 5
-[X] [Action] Go to Emiko.
No. of Votes: 2
--[X] [Action] Try to learn more about the code or what she might know.
No. of Votes: 2
--[X] [Action] It's not necessarily related, but what about the...runaway Tide Genin she might have smuggled out?
No. of Votes: 2
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Task: Xp
[X] [XP] Plan We Can Rebuild Him
No. of Votes: 4
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
No. of Votes: 3
[X] XP Plan Sneaky Puppetry
[X] Upgrade Ninja Art: Piercing Note
[X] Upgrade Cloak of Invisibility Technique
[X] Upgrade Water Release: Thin Mist Technique
[X] Primary: Puppetry
[X] Secondary: Genjutsu
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 8
Here is the raw version if you want to look at it.
Vote Tally : End of an Era (Naruto AU) | Page 42 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.1.23
[X] Veekie
No. of Votes: 2
[X] XP Plan Sneaky Puppetry
[X] Upgrade Ninja Art: Piercing Note
[X] Upgrade Cloak of Invisibility Technique
[X] Upgrade Water Release: Thin Mist Technique
[X] Primary: Puppetry
[X] Secondary: Genjutsu
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Repair Stinger.
[X] Continue the investigation.
-[X] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
[X] Trains with someone
-[X] Shizue could try to train with one of her fellow genin, though she'd have to train in what they wanted to train in. If so, which one?
--[X] Rika
[X] Body Replacement Technique Rank 3 - 12 XP
[X] Priority 1- Puppetry
[X] Priority 2- Evasion
No. of Votes: 1
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Task: Action
-[X] [Action] Repair Stinger.
No. of Votes: 6
-[X] [Action] Continue the investigation. (Choose ONE free, each additional investigation action costs ½ of a total week action.)
No. of Votes: 6
--[X] [Action] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
No. of Votes: 6
[X] [Action] Plan Winding Down
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [Action] Talks to her fellow genin (choose two)
No. of Votes: 3
--[X] [Action] Rika
No. of Votes: 3
--[X] [Action] Okiie
No. of Votes: 3
--[X] [Action] Junko
No. of Votes: 3
[X] [Action] Plan Velocirampage
No. of Votes: 2
-[X] [Action] Go to Emiko.
No. of Votes: 2
--[X] [Action] Try to learn more about the code or what she might know.
No. of Votes: 2
--[X] [Action] It's not necessarily related, but what about the...runaway Tide Genin she might have smuggled out?
No. of Votes: 2
[X] [Action] Plan Winding Up
No. of Votes: 1
-[X] [Action] Trains with someone
--[X] Shizue could try to train with one of her fellow genin, though she'd have to train in what they wanted to train in. If so, which one?
No. of Votes: 1
---[X] [Action] Rika
No. of Votes: 1
---[X] [Action] Genta
No. of Votes: 1
[X] [Action] Plan Bakkasama
No. of Votes: 1
[X] [Action] Repair Stinger.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] [Action] Talks to her fellow genin (choose two)
No. of Votes: 1
-[x] [Action] Kihara Junko
No. of Votes: 1
-[x] [Action] Yaramachi Hachiro
No. of Votes: 1
[X] [Action] Continue the investigation. (Choose ONE free, each additional investigation action costs ½ of a total week action.)
No. of Votes: 1
-[x] [Action] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
No. of Votes: 1
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————
Task: Xp
-[X] [XP] Priority 1 - Puppetry
No. of Votes: 6
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
No. of Votes: 4
[X] [XP] Plan We Can Rebuild Him
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Cloak of Invisibility Technique Rank 4 -16xp
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Traps, Wires
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 4 - Awareness, Chakra Control
No. of Votes: 3
[X] [XP]Body Replacement Technique Rank 3
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison, traps
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Intelligence
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 11
##### NetTally 1.1.23
[X] Veekie
No. of Votes: 2
[X] XP Plan Sneaky Puppetry
[X] Upgrade Ninja Art: Piercing Note
[X] Upgrade Cloak of Invisibility Technique
[X] Upgrade Water Release: Thin Mist Technique
[X] Primary: Puppetry
[X] Secondary: Genjutsu
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Repair Stinger.
[X] Continue the investigation.
-[X] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
[X] Trains with someone
-[X] Shizue could try to train with one of her fellow genin, though she'd have to train in what they wanted to train in. If so, which one?
--[X] Rika
[X] Body Replacement Technique Rank 3 - 12 XP
[X] Priority 1- Puppetry
[X] Priority 2- Evasion
No. of Votes: 1
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————
Task: Action
-[X] [Action] Repair Stinger.
No. of Votes: 6
-[X] [Action] Continue the investigation. (Choose ONE free, each additional investigation action costs ½ of a total week action.)
No. of Votes: 6
--[X] [Action] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
No. of Votes: 6
[X] [Action] Plan Winding Down
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [Action] Talks to her fellow genin (choose two)
No. of Votes: 3
--[X] [Action] Rika
No. of Votes: 3
--[X] [Action] Okiie
No. of Votes: 3
--[X] [Action] Junko
No. of Votes: 3
[X] [Action] Plan Velocirampage
No. of Votes: 2
-[X] [Action] Go to Emiko.
No. of Votes: 2
--[X] [Action] Try to learn more about the code or what she might know.
No. of Votes: 2
--[X] [Action] It's not necessarily related, but what about the...runaway Tide Genin she might have smuggled out?
No. of Votes: 2
[X] [Action] Plan Winding Up
No. of Votes: 1
-[X] [Action] Trains with someone
--[X] Shizue could try to train with one of her fellow genin, though she'd have to train in what they wanted to train in. If so, which one?
No. of Votes: 1
---[X] [Action] Rika
No. of Votes: 1
---[X] [Action] Genta
No. of Votes: 1
[X] [Action] Plan Bakkasama
No. of Votes: 1
[X] [Action] Repair Stinger.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] [Action] Talks to her fellow genin (choose two)
No. of Votes: 1
-[x] [Action] Kihara Junko
No. of Votes: 1
-[x] [Action] Yaramachi Hachiro
No. of Votes: 1
[X] [Action] Continue the investigation. (Choose ONE free, each additional investigation action costs ½ of a total week action.)
No. of Votes: 1
-[x] [Action] Investigate the matter of the potential for there to be two suspects/perpetrators.
No. of Votes: 1
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————
Task: Xp
-[X] [XP] Priority 1 - Puppetry
No. of Votes: 6
[X] [XP] plan Bakkasama
No. of Votes: 4
[X] [XP] Plan We Can Rebuild Him
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Cloak of Invisibility Technique Rank 4 -16xp
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Traps, Wires
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 4 - Awareness, Chakra Control
No. of Votes: 3
[X] [XP]Body Replacement Technique Rank 3
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison, traps
No. of Votes: 3
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Intelligence
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 11
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Note taken.
This thing is going to need an instruction manual soon
Arkatekt
Harbinger of Shitluck
Funny thing is: It has a manual. Which includes, How to write votes, How to manage Votes, and How to Use NetTally. Problem is, nobody ever reads it (including myself until I noticed the mess we made.)Note taken.
This thing is going to need an instruction manual soon
Arkatekt
Harbinger of Shitluck
Yeah, I've seen 3 different explanations on how Base Plan voting works, and all of them have been different.
Eventually I'll actually read that part of the manual, but I think Task and Ranked voting are complex enough for now, considering how rarely I actually see them used. (even though it isn't actually as complex as the tally makes it out to be)
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- Pronouns
- They/Them
Okay, plan 'Winding Down' and 'We can Rebuild Him' win. Give me a second, and this morning another vote will start that will last a little while...
OOC: Character Building, and Votes!
- Pronouns
- They/Them
82 XP Total:
[XP] Plan We Can Rebuild Him
-[X] [XP] Cloak of Invisibility Technique Rank 4 -16xp
-[X] [XP] Priority 1 - Puppetry
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Traps, Wires
-[X] [XP] Priority 4 - Awareness, Chakra Control
82-16 (Cloak of Invisibility, Rank 4)-23 (Puppetry to 30)-14 (Poison to 28)-9 (Wires to 18)-9 (Traps to 25)-6 (Awareness to 25)-6 (Chakra Control to 23)=-1 XP left over, but you know what, it's fine. I'll just roll it into the next turn because to be honest, this build plan right here is the most solid of the entire Quest in how much real and measurable improvement there is.
Now, your puppet's total points have gone from 205 to 250. Intelligence is now trailing behind puppetry, if you're curious why. 20+30/2=25*10=250 points.
Now, Stinger as they were, was like this...
So you need to do another vote. Now, I *could* do this in an update as a natural 'stopping point' halfway through an episode, but nah.
So, to explain again:
Armament: The weapons and ability to use them that has been granted to a puppet. A puppet might wield a weapon, or open up into a whirring hacksaw death-trap, but either way, if it cuts, slices, dices or shoots something at an enemy (like Kunai) it's armament.
Structure: The toughness/armor of the puppet. This affects how quickly and easily it can be destroyed, or at least begin to be crippled. The stronger the structure, the more it can take a beating and keep on going.
Design: Design is the care, cunning, and cleverness that went into its mechanisms. If one wants a puppet to be equipped with a camera for scouting, or to be capable of Taijutsu effectively (having the full range of motions to do so), or to set up (using Fuinjutsu) any number of sealing arrays...it starts with design.
Agility: How fast a puppet can react, but also how stealthily. A puppet might be big, bulky, incapable of moving across the ground quickly, and make loud grinding noises as it moves, or it might be a shadow upon the darkness of the forest.
Equipment: Equipment represents special tools and abilities that are not fully captured by four stats. That a puppet-owner has captured an A-rank Fire Release and made a mechanism to release said attack on their enemies through their puppet cannot be represented, nor can poison. Equipment allows it to be temporarily represented, and also represents design differences. A Puppet colored to fit into the background of a forest might have an Agility of +5 when sneaking in forests to represent that, in this one area, but not in speed, for instance, their Agility should be counted as higher. These too are worth points, and a good puppet has some of both. One that has no surprises, that is entirely without equipment, is unlikely.
To open up more slots on Stinger, you need to have a higher 'Design.' Structure governs HP, Armament, their 'regular' attacks. Agility dodging, etc, etc. Now, there are multiple ways you can do this, as with anything. You could place all 45 points in some stat and leave nothing for the equipment, keeping the puppet as is--unless you swap one equipment for another with an equal value/total equal value) or spend only enough to open up more equipment slots and put the rest on Equipment. Or *not* spend to open up equipment slots, and the points would thus be towards making better pieces of equipment rather than more. There are many, many possibilities, so vote!
How Many Points do you set aside for equipment?
[] Write-in
Among What's Left, what's your priority on point spending.
[] Regular ol' Priority system: Armament, Structure, Design and Agility.
[XP] Plan We Can Rebuild Him
-[X] [XP] Cloak of Invisibility Technique Rank 4 -16xp
-[X] [XP] Priority 1 - Puppetry
-[X] [XP] Priority 2 - Poison
-[X] [XP] Priority 3 - Traps, Wires
-[X] [XP] Priority 4 - Awareness, Chakra Control
82-16 (Cloak of Invisibility, Rank 4)-23 (Puppetry to 30)-14 (Poison to 28)-9 (Wires to 18)-9 (Traps to 25)-6 (Awareness to 25)-6 (Chakra Control to 23)=-1 XP left over, but you know what, it's fine. I'll just roll it into the next turn because to be honest, this build plan right here is the most solid of the entire Quest in how much real and measurable improvement there is.
Now, your puppet's total points have gone from 205 to 250. Intelligence is now trailing behind puppetry, if you're curious why. 20+30/2=25*10=250 points.
Now, Stinger as they were, was like this...
Name: Stinger
Build--
Armament: 22
Structure: 19
Design: 22
Agility: 23
Equipment--
Poison Kunai Thrower (8): Costing half of Poison level, this allows the puppet to temporarily have 'Poison 16' for the purposes of its attack.
Bound Techniques (3): Through clever engineering, Shizue has made it so that the motions of handsigns on certain techniques of hers do not impede the operation of the puppet. She can use Replacement, one of her Sound Ninjutsu, and one of her Water Releases without any worry.
Stealthy Puppet (5): Through the clever use of painting and finding ways to muffle the various sounds a machine is likely to make, the agility of this puppet acts as 5 points higher when sneaking.
Sound Generator (5): This puppet has been outfitted with (kept silenced until activated) bells and chimes that can generate the noise required for low-level Sound jutsu to work.
Pit Spike Technique (8): In the front of the puppet are covered holes, and beneath them are carefully prepared spikes. When an enemy gets close they shoot out. Their force isn't the best and they aren't so long, so--and Shizue doesn't regret this--they're unlikely to impale someone, but it's still being stabbed with a bunch of spikes coming out of nowhere.
Ball-Joint Flexibility (4): A puppet is more flexible than any human can be, when made well. For the purpose of Taijutsu and evading attacks, it can count its score as 4 points higher, and is thus much harder to land a 'solid hit' on.
Internal Armoring (5) : There are many important gears, joints and parts to be protected in this complex puppet, and so Shizue has decided to work on that by putting in internal protection without sacrificing the speed of the puppet in any way. Damage to the puppet's outside is less likely to disable or screw up any equipment or important mechanisms immediately.
Waterproofing (8) : While Shizue is pretty sure the puppet *shouldn't* be submerged in water, and it creates difficulty, being soaked in Water Releases is no problem with its tight joints and waterproof materials, and it can be completely soaked and yet unaffected, important considering the area.
Wired Reflexes: Agility is increased by 2 for the purposes of acting first, quick reactions.
Cloak and Dagger (Free): +1 to Stealth rolls, cooler puppet
Spring Loaded: Boy, won't that be a surprise!
(Caustic) Water Gun: Attack based on Water Jutsu level and Stats, has chance to debilitate or cause problems to enemies owing to, well, its caustic nature.
(No slots open)
In Testbed
Net Trap Explosion (8 of 8): There are a few bugs that need to be worked out.
Fuinjutsu? (0 of ???): Surely it could help with something on a puppet.
Some sort of Power-drill thing, it didn't work and Shizue hasn't taken it out yet (0/0)
Build--
Armament: 22
Structure: 19
Design: 22
Agility: 23
Equipment--
Poison Kunai Thrower (8): Costing half of Poison level, this allows the puppet to temporarily have 'Poison 16' for the purposes of its attack.
Bound Techniques (3): Through clever engineering, Shizue has made it so that the motions of handsigns on certain techniques of hers do not impede the operation of the puppet. She can use Replacement, one of her Sound Ninjutsu, and one of her Water Releases without any worry.
Stealthy Puppet (5): Through the clever use of painting and finding ways to muffle the various sounds a machine is likely to make, the agility of this puppet acts as 5 points higher when sneaking.
Sound Generator (5): This puppet has been outfitted with (kept silenced until activated) bells and chimes that can generate the noise required for low-level Sound jutsu to work.
Pit Spike Technique (8): In the front of the puppet are covered holes, and beneath them are carefully prepared spikes. When an enemy gets close they shoot out. Their force isn't the best and they aren't so long, so--and Shizue doesn't regret this--they're unlikely to impale someone, but it's still being stabbed with a bunch of spikes coming out of nowhere.
Ball-Joint Flexibility (4): A puppet is more flexible than any human can be, when made well. For the purpose of Taijutsu and evading attacks, it can count its score as 4 points higher, and is thus much harder to land a 'solid hit' on.
Internal Armoring (5) : There are many important gears, joints and parts to be protected in this complex puppet, and so Shizue has decided to work on that by putting in internal protection without sacrificing the speed of the puppet in any way. Damage to the puppet's outside is less likely to disable or screw up any equipment or important mechanisms immediately.
Waterproofing (8) : While Shizue is pretty sure the puppet *shouldn't* be submerged in water, and it creates difficulty, being soaked in Water Releases is no problem with its tight joints and waterproof materials, and it can be completely soaked and yet unaffected, important considering the area.
Wired Reflexes: Agility is increased by 2 for the purposes of acting first, quick reactions.
Cloak and Dagger (Free): +1 to Stealth rolls, cooler puppet
Spring Loaded: Boy, won't that be a surprise!
(Caustic) Water Gun: Attack based on Water Jutsu level and Stats, has chance to debilitate or cause problems to enemies owing to, well, its caustic nature.
(No slots open)
In Testbed
Net Trap Explosion (8 of 8): There are a few bugs that need to be worked out.
Fuinjutsu? (0 of ???): Surely it could help with something on a puppet.
Some sort of Power-drill thing, it didn't work and Shizue hasn't taken it out yet (0/0)
So you need to do another vote. Now, I *could* do this in an update as a natural 'stopping point' halfway through an episode, but nah.
So, to explain again:
Armament: The weapons and ability to use them that has been granted to a puppet. A puppet might wield a weapon, or open up into a whirring hacksaw death-trap, but either way, if it cuts, slices, dices or shoots something at an enemy (like Kunai) it's armament.
Structure: The toughness/armor of the puppet. This affects how quickly and easily it can be destroyed, or at least begin to be crippled. The stronger the structure, the more it can take a beating and keep on going.
Design: Design is the care, cunning, and cleverness that went into its mechanisms. If one wants a puppet to be equipped with a camera for scouting, or to be capable of Taijutsu effectively (having the full range of motions to do so), or to set up (using Fuinjutsu) any number of sealing arrays...it starts with design.
Agility: How fast a puppet can react, but also how stealthily. A puppet might be big, bulky, incapable of moving across the ground quickly, and make loud grinding noises as it moves, or it might be a shadow upon the darkness of the forest.
Equipment: Equipment represents special tools and abilities that are not fully captured by four stats. That a puppet-owner has captured an A-rank Fire Release and made a mechanism to release said attack on their enemies through their puppet cannot be represented, nor can poison. Equipment allows it to be temporarily represented, and also represents design differences. A Puppet colored to fit into the background of a forest might have an Agility of +5 when sneaking in forests to represent that, in this one area, but not in speed, for instance, their Agility should be counted as higher. These too are worth points, and a good puppet has some of both. One that has no surprises, that is entirely without equipment, is unlikely.
To open up more slots on Stinger, you need to have a higher 'Design.' Structure governs HP, Armament, their 'regular' attacks. Agility dodging, etc, etc. Now, there are multiple ways you can do this, as with anything. You could place all 45 points in some stat and leave nothing for the equipment, keeping the puppet as is--unless you swap one equipment for another with an equal value/total equal value) or spend only enough to open up more equipment slots and put the rest on Equipment. Or *not* spend to open up equipment slots, and the points would thus be towards making better pieces of equipment rather than more. There are many, many possibilities, so vote!
How Many Points do you set aside for equipment?
[] Write-in
Among What's Left, what's your priority on point spending.
[] Regular ol' Priority system: Armament, Structure, Design and Agility.
Arkatekt
Harbinger of Shitluck
I'm somewhat confused, and would like to ask for clarification on some things.
We have 250 points to assign to Stinger 2: The Return of Stinger.
Armament, Structure, Design, and Agility are leveled using the same point costs as Shizue's Skills and Stats.
We have a hard cap of 45 points spent per stat.
Each piece of equipment has a specific cost that comes out of our 250 points.
We are choosing which pieces of equipment we want to remake and install into Stinger 2: The Reckoning and setting aside the necessary points to install them.
If we do not have enough points set aside for the equipment we want, the over-limit equipment gets added to our workshop and can be added later by trading out other equipment or adding to Puppetry or Intelligence.
Poison Kunai Launcher now costs 14 points and applies 'Poison 28' due to our increased Poisons skill.
Do any of the other equipment pieces have an increased cost?
Shizue is capable of reinstalling Spring Loaded onto Stinger 2: Revengeance without Emiko there to help.
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- Pronouns
- They/Them
Okay, to clarify, I'd assumed that everything as it was would be the minimum. Like, the build I showed you right there used 205 points, so basically, I assumed that any plan would spend everything the previous puppet had, and then improve on the base design. So, like, the poison launcher and everything, right now, is just the base/normal one. With more points into equipment, you can improve that, as with everything else.
Basically, you're remaking that exact character sheet...plus 45 more XP, which means it'll likely be better
More XP into the Equipment section means that next time you tinker with the puppet...you'll have much more that you can do.
Arkatekt
Harbinger of Shitluck
Thank you for the prompt response.
Any points left after the stat division (like the 1 XP left over above) will be added to Equipment automatically, or will it become floating Puppet-XP that we can apply next time we tinker with Stinger 2: Resurrection of S?
How Many Points do you set aside for equipment?
[X] 20 equipment points
20/45 is a not insignificant number, but it should allow us to upgrade the poison, and hopefully the armour as well. Should leave some room for new stuff after that as well, if we want to get the net trap or something.
Among What's Left, what's your priority on point spending.
[1] Agility
[2] Structure
[3] Armament
[4] Design
Stat distribution is a focus on survivability so we don't have to repair Stinger 2: The Return of Stinger's Revenge as often, and he will be a better tank (quicker too).
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Also, Welcome to Ranked Voting! Done right, it should make this not a mess to tally (hopefully) and we won't have to keep writing 'Priority X' 'Priority Y' and changing it every time some minor change int he order is made.
With any luck, it should look something like this, after it's done.
Any points left after the stat division (like the 1 XP left over above) will be added to Equipment automatically, or will it become floating Puppet-XP that we can apply next time we tinker with Stinger 2: Resurrection of S?
How Many Points do you set aside for equipment?
[X] 20 equipment points
20/45 is a not insignificant number, but it should allow us to upgrade the poison, and hopefully the armour as well. Should leave some room for new stuff after that as well, if we want to get the net trap or something.
Among What's Left, what's your priority on point spending.
[1] Agility
[2] Structure
[3] Armament
[4] Design
Stat distribution is a focus on survivability so we don't have to repair Stinger 2: The Return of Stinger's Revenge as often, and he will be a better tank (quicker too).
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Also, Welcome to Ranked Voting! Done right, it should make this not a mess to tally (hopefully) and we won't have to keep writing 'Priority X' 'Priority Y' and changing it every time some minor change int he order is made.
With any luck, it should look something like this, after it's done.
Vote Tally : End of an Era (Naruto AU) | Page 43 | Sufficient Velocity
NetTally 1.1.23
Options:
Agility
Armament
Design
Structure
Winner: Agility
First Runner Up: Structure
Second Runner Up: Armament
Third Runner Up: Design
Total No. of Voters: 1
[] 20 equipment points
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 1
NetTally 1.1.23
Options:
Agility
Armament
Design
Structure
Winner: Agility
First Runner Up: Structure
Second Runner Up: Armament
Third Runner Up: Design
Total No. of Voters: 1
[] 20 equipment points
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 1
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ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
How Many Points do you set aside for equipment?
[X] 25 equipment points
This seems like a good round number.
Among What's Left, what's your priority on point spending.
[2] Agility
[1] Structure
[4] Armament
[3] Design
Stinger mainly saved our and Rika's lives by serving as a...I want to say 'meat-shield', but that doesn't seem appropriate considering Stinger isn't made out of flesh and blood. Therefore, we should improve him in this regard.
[X] 25 equipment points
This seems like a good round number.
Among What's Left, what's your priority on point spending.
[2] Agility
[1] Structure
[4] Armament
[3] Design
Stinger mainly saved our and Rika's lives by serving as a...I want to say 'meat-shield', but that doesn't seem appropriate considering Stinger isn't made out of flesh and blood. Therefore, we should improve him in this regard.
Arkatekt
Harbinger of Shitluck
Wait... I think I might have misinterpreted something.
@The Laurent Does Agility directly effect Stinger 2: Wrath of Stinger's ability to dodge/deflect attacks?
@The Laurent Does Agility directly effect Stinger 2: Wrath of Stinger's ability to dodge/deflect attacks?
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Yes, it does. Averaged with Shizue's dexterity in this regard, since the quickness of her fingers influences things at this lower level. But yeah Agility helps with evasion, with speed of movement, etc, etc.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
@The Laurent Is the ability to actually hit someone with "Stinger 2: Faster and more Furious" related to his agility, design or armament?
On a different note unrelated to the current situation, the jutsu to make a puppet look like us, Is an evolution of transformation or replacement technique or its a jutsu on its own right?
On a different note unrelated to the current situation, the jutsu to make a puppet look like us, Is an evolution of transformation or replacement technique or its a jutsu on its own right?
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- Pronouns
- They/Them
Armament. And, it's something that might be unlocked once you get to a certain level of transformation. Not sure whether it'll be a split-off jutsu or not, though it makes sense that it'd be one, since you're not actually transforming yourself...
[X] 20 equipment points
20 should be a good balance
[1] Agility
Biggest lack so far, it's fast and responsive, but not quite fast and responsive enough to handle enemies by doing anything but tanking. It can hit enemies, but only if using a special trick they get surprised by.
Upgrade this, it's too low to land blows soon.
[2] Design
We literally can't install any more equipment last time. So Design needs a big increase to add any equipment.
[3] Structure
Now, one might look at the structure and think we need more initially, but Stinger ALONE had taken enough damage that last fight to kill the whole team three times over. I'd say it needs to AVOID taking as many hits at this point. It's tanky enough that a small increase in evasion, or another extra gimmick would do more to increase durability than raising structure.
[4] Armament
Goes last, it's already got plenty of killy built into it so far, based on performance.
20 should be a good balance
[1] Agility
Biggest lack so far, it's fast and responsive, but not quite fast and responsive enough to handle enemies by doing anything but tanking. It can hit enemies, but only if using a special trick they get surprised by.
Upgrade this, it's too low to land blows soon.
[2] Design
We literally can't install any more equipment last time. So Design needs a big increase to add any equipment.
[3] Structure
Now, one might look at the structure and think we need more initially, but Stinger ALONE had taken enough damage that last fight to kill the whole team three times over. I'd say it needs to AVOID taking as many hits at this point. It's tanky enough that a small increase in evasion, or another extra gimmick would do more to increase durability than raising structure.
[4] Armament
Goes last, it's already got plenty of killy built into it so far, based on performance.
Kairos123
Insomniac Extraordinaire
[X] Arkatect
[1] Agility
Because while Stinger can soak up damage like a beast, it should be able to dodge and prevent that damage from ever occurring in the first place.
[2] Structure
So far it is Stinger's weakest stat, which is not optimal for a front line fighter. Get this raised a bit higher to prevent critical failure against the coming fights.
[3] Armament
This is our very killy puppet, it needs more blades. Also increases the chances to actually hit the enemy.
[4] Design
While we might need to upgrade this next, I think Stinger is okay equipment-wise. For the moment at least.
Unless I'm mistaken we can still improve design later without penalty, no? When we actually have a new design to put in Stinger? If so I don't want to spend the points to open up slots for equipment we don't have and aren't even in the process of designing. I could be convinced if we had anything other than the net trap in the works, but we don't. If we ever needed that net trap we could always replace the Pit Spike technique with it (the pit spikes haven't really done anything yet).
I imagine Stinger will always be our kill-tastic puppet, and thus should be up to the challenge. Our next one should be something like Kankuro's Sanshōuo. Something made almost solely for defending Shizue and her allies.
[1] Agility
Because while Stinger can soak up damage like a beast, it should be able to dodge and prevent that damage from ever occurring in the first place.
[2] Structure
So far it is Stinger's weakest stat, which is not optimal for a front line fighter. Get this raised a bit higher to prevent critical failure against the coming fights.
[3] Armament
This is our very killy puppet, it needs more blades. Also increases the chances to actually hit the enemy.
[4] Design
While we might need to upgrade this next, I think Stinger is okay equipment-wise. For the moment at least.
Unless I'm mistaken we can still improve design later without penalty, no? When we actually have a new design to put in Stinger? If so I don't want to spend the points to open up slots for equipment we don't have and aren't even in the process of designing. I could be convinced if we had anything other than the net trap in the works, but we don't. If we ever needed that net trap we could always replace the Pit Spike technique with it (the pit spikes haven't really done anything yet).
I imagine Stinger will always be our kill-tastic puppet, and thus should be up to the challenge. Our next one should be something like Kankuro's Sanshōuo. Something made almost solely for defending Shizue and her allies.
[X] 20 equipment points
[1] Agility
[2] Structure
[3] Armament
[4] Design
Since what little we know of Islands plan says that they intend to force a decisive battle more dodge and more hit points are necessary to stay in the fight longer. I'm pretty sure that even split like this design should get at least enough for one more slot and that's fine for now.
[1] Agility
[2] Structure
[3] Armament
[4] Design
Since what little we know of Islands plan says that they intend to force a decisive battle more dodge and more hit points are necessary to stay in the fight longer. I'm pretty sure that even split like this design should get at least enough for one more slot and that's fine for now.
Didn't Naruto transform Gamabunta into the Kyubbi to grab onto Shukaku during the Sound Invasion arc?
Oh I am slain!
Wynaut?
- Location
- Tatooine
Hmm, I'm going with the order: Agility, Design, Structure, Armament.
So:
[x] veekie
@The Laurent
1. By the way, is there any reason why our puppet has to be human shaped and sized?
2. I forget--what are the skills needed for us to control multiple puppets at once?
So:
[x] veekie
@The Laurent
1. By the way, is there any reason why our puppet has to be human shaped and sized?
2. I forget--what are the skills needed for us to control multiple puppets at once?
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Pure puppetry. You're not high enough to control two at once, not yet. First, you reduce it to five fingers, and then you can do five fingers per puppet...and do two puppets at once. Before, you were at the 'two free fingers' stage.
I'll check the chart to see where you are now.
Edit: You're at six fingers. Two more points, and you are at five...but not two puppets. Your concentration and skill at commanding a puppet with one hand isn't great enough, but being at 32 does mean you'd have an entire hand free!
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