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Mastersgtjames said:
Entertaining and as enjoyable as that was... What was with the Geth nonsense? There are no Geth on earth, they(especially Talyor) would have noticed.
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Uh, yes there are?
Hells, last chapter they were integrating Geth work with their own (possibly the chapter before last).

FaerieKnight79 said:
In he one timeline where Reed was sent, he spent too long trying out various devices and looking for a better weapon to stop the World Devourer with. By the time he returned to Earth, Galactus had already feasted and left. At which point That Reed concluded the single greatest threat to humanity is... Reed Richards. And he started on a quest to wipe out every Reed Richards in existence.
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Man, I love Rick and Morty!
 
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FaerieKnight79 said:
Fantastic Four did that storyline YEARS earlier. Where do you think the writers of Rick & Morty got the idea from?
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Pop culture has a short memory. People latch onto whatever was the fad most recently with no clue about history.

I once got into an argument with a guy about a refence he thought was from League of Legends, while I tried to explain that the thing he thought was the source was actually just another reference to a show 20 years older.
 
FaerieKnight79 said:
As for Reed, he's a menace. Fortunately he can (usually) contain his mistakes with the help of the other Fantastic Four members. That said, he is the reason for the Skrull Invasion that Marvel did recently. Remember, his method of defeating the original invasion was to hypnotize the skrull into thinking they were cows or something. Which eventually set up the invasion that nearly worked.
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It also turned an entire town into crazed shapeshifters because they drank the Skrull Milk. Who basically turned into Milk Cultists with the goal of converting as many people into more of themselves via Skrull Milk consumption as possible.
 
Avernus said:
It also turned an entire town into crazed shapeshifters because they drank the Skrull Milk. Who basically turned into Milk Cultists with the goal of converting as many people into more of themselves via Skrull Milk consumption as possible.
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Reed Richards is proof that there's such a thing as being too smart for your own good.
 
mp3.1415player said:
High INT, very low WIS :)

Taylor in this case does rather well in both. And has a lot of advisers she listens to, which proves it ;)

Richards mostly doesn't listen to anyone other than the voices in his head.
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Is it not written, 'ooh, you're so sharp you'll cut yourself'?

It's easy to be a smart fool or a wise idiot. Taylor's lucky to have such good friends and family keeping her grounded.
 
mp3.1415player said:
Richards mostly doesn't listen to anyone other than the voices in his head.
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That, combined with his powers... Could someone have literally put a tiny speaker into his head and play voices into his head?

Because now I'm sort of imagining a prank gone wrong, where it got forgotten about and some receiver in his head picking up random signals and playing it in his head. Either that or Richards was trying to have a secret communications receiver that couldn't easily be taken from him, when he was sleep deprived and thus doesn't remember doing it. And now he's extolling the greatness of Hostess Fruit Pies.
 
mp3.1415player said:
High INT, very low WIS :)

Taylor in this case does rather well in both. And has a lot of advisers she listens to, which proves it ;)

Richards mostly doesn't listen to anyone other than the voices in his head.
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I do believe you forgot "short attention span/hyper-focus" and "no ability to parse consequences while doing Science" as part of this description... A very low WIS score might encompass the second, but doesn't affect the first too much.
 
Okibruez said:
Reed Richards is proof that there's such a thing as being too smart for your own good.
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Considering that during the Civil War storyline he consulted with the supervillain The Thinker (I think) because that was the only one he felt could check his math for the social prediction equations Reed had created. It took a villain to point out to him that since Reed created the equations from scratch, they will always tell Reed exactly what his bias wanted them to tell him.

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Actually, that's a common problem with super genius in comics. They are always so busy asking "can it be done" that they almost never stop to ask "should it be done". Doesn't matter if they're hero or villain. The only real difference is the heroic ones will (usually) clean up their own mess.
 
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FaerieKnight79 said:
Considering that during the Civil War storyline he consulted with the supervillain The Thinker (I think) because that was the only one he felt could check his math for the social prediction equations Reed had created. It took a villain to point out to him that since Reed created the equations from scratch, they will always tell Reed exactly what his bias wanted them to tell him.
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...That's only really true if you can't do honest reasoning from first principles. It's a profound failing of reasoning to not be able to develop a model that has implications contrary to your naive intuition.

I mean, I don't posit that it's plausible to do honest reasoning from first principles to "social prediction equations"...
 
Aineko said:
...That's only really true if you can't do honest reasoning from first principles. It's a profound failing of reasoning to not be able to develop a model that has implications contrary to your naive intuition.

I mean, I don't posit that it's plausible to do honest reasoning from first principles to "social prediction equations"...
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The problem was that Reed had created the entire branch of math whole cloth without consulting anyone else until after his equations were proving inacurate in their predictions. it never occurred to him that his math could be flawed because his base assumptions are flawed.
 
FaerieKnight79 said:
The problem was that Reed had created the entire branch of math whole cloth without consulting anyone else until after his equations were proving inacurate in their predictions. it never occurred to him that his math could be flawed because his base assumptions are flawed.
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Okay, but there's a big difference between 'reasoning from bad postulates is garbage in garbage out' and 'if you invent a model from scratch it can only be an expression of your biases'.
 
Jacen1 said:
Is that in pure vacuum? Does it take into account additional mass falling in before it dissipates? How long would that Black Hole last in an Earth like atmosphere?
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Given the extreme energy *output*, you don't have to worry about stuff falling in since it is all blasted away quite quickly, and the actual radius of the hole is a microscopic target at ground zero of the blasting.

Aineko said:
Okay, but there's a big difference between 'reasoning from bad postulates is garbage in garbage out' and 'if you invent a model from scratch it can only be an expression of your biases'.
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Presumably he didn't call it done until it told him what he wanted it to say, because clearly if it doesn't say what he expects it isn't quite right yet. Why do empirical testing in the design or planning phases, when you're so s.m.r.t.
 
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FaerieKnight79 said:
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Actually, that's a common problem with super genius in comics. They are always so busy asking "can it be done" that they almost never stop to ask "should it be done".
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Also, they tend to only be super-smart in very narrow ways. So they make all sorts of mistakes outside of gadget-development, mistakes that are so obvious that even someone of normal intelligence - like, say a comic book writer - could predict them beforehand.

Even Taylor in this story is somewhat like that; she's a pretty standard a "comic book super genius", really good with science and technology but otherwise of normal intelligence. The conceit being that she's a comic book super genius that has been dropped into a setting full of Tinkers who unlike Reed Richards don't understand their own super-technology, and unlike Richards isn't narratively constrained from causing actual changes in her setting.

And that she's a lot more psychologically grounded than either Reed Richards or canon Skitter. Can you imagine what Skitter would have done if she'd suddenly gained this kind of ability? She'd be like Reed Richards on steroids; Reed at least tends to default to puttering about in his lab, not on unilaterally solving the world's problems by out-escalating it.
 
Wile E. Skitter; Super-Genius: I have solved world hunger with this food replicator!
Everyone else: but it's enormously expensive and people who don't have food also don't have money.
Skitter: And this machine extracts trace minerals from seawater, simultaneously producing gold and potable drinking water.
EE: that's even more expensive!
Skitter: and finally I have created this mobile universal factory that can make an unlimited number of both devices for free, starting from a desert with sea access!
I've already deployed three in Africa.
EE: but what's about the warlords? Or the Endbringers?
Skitter: that's what the antiproton beam cannon array is for, as you can clearly see labelled on the schematic. In testing it completely annihilated approximately thirty percent of Leviathan (that's why she's been sitting out the last couple of cycles).
EE: …
Skitter did I mention the factories can self-teleport to new job sites as needed? And they even construct their own high-capacity freeway to drive on as they go.
EE: So you say you have three enormous autonomous vehicles capable of taking out an endbringer…
Skitter: probably, if dad would let me turn it up to full power…
EE: … just gonna ignore that… and you want to use them to make food replicators and gold refineries to give away?
Skitter: Yep! But for Stage two, I'm gonna need some help, see, the plan is…
 
That's amusing and all but it overlooks one simple fact.

Only the first replicator is expensive. After that nothing is ever again.

The closest you get to a bottleneck is energy output.... except you can freely replicate an energy source too.

At that point you split production between 'stuff' and more replicator capacity, and watch as you completely erase the global economy.
 
Ahem. "It's a food replicator. Not a replicator replicator. No internal parts are made from potatoes. Or lemons. Not even the bios settings battery no matter how cool that would be, dad."


Seriously though, silicon chips actually require way more precision than potato chips to assemble. Especially if you're only concerned with flavour and nutrition rather than making baby potato plants. Heck you can completely skip the DNA and no-one would notice.
 
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Mr_Rose said:
Ahem. "It's a food replicator. Not a replicator replicator.
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Question for you there.

What's the difference?

Answer. There isn't one.

Once you're building your own objects one atom at a time the difference between a potato, a book, or a bullet is just the recipe. Chocolate cake, cheese cake, uranium cake. Doesn't matter. Block of Cheese, block of C4. Can of Coke, can of gas. Same difference.
 
TypoNinja said:
Question for you there.

What's the difference?

Answer. There isn't one.

Once you're building your own objects one atom at a time the difference between a potato, a book, or a bullet is just the recipe. Chocolate cake, cheese cake, uranium cake. Doesn't matter. Block of Cheese, block of C4. Can of Coke, can of gas. Same difference.
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Under the assumption that that's what a replicator does it's correct.
 
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