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A Magistrate on Halo rings (Starcraft and Halo crossover)

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[X] Core World: High population, High notice, medium population loyalty, High battle difficulty.

Meh, might as well start somewhere...we should take actions to insure loyalty, as well as keeping battle damage to the infrastructure to a minimum...but hey when we introduce some dominion tech which might be better then most of UNSC tech, well...some of the things of the cultural exchange would be interesting...and if we make that core world our new capital for the New Dominion...well...

I'm looking at fun times here!

also this:



pretty much this when we meet the covenant.​
 
[X] Colony world: low population, medium notice, high population loyalty, low battle difficulty.


- Easier to mix and assimilate out two tech bases.
- high loyalty is always a good thing bc it means we don't have to watch our back as much. Also, the locals actively cooperating and wanting to work with us means everything will get done faster, which we'll need.
- low battle difficulty less odds of combat, which means we can conserve our own sparse military forces and get our SC infrastructure up and running before we have to worry too much.
- Even low population isn't bad, bc with high loyalty means probably high levels of population intermixing, meaning we'll have loads of kids, and with our mixed Terran-UNSC techbase we can probably get some measure of robots and clones operating to supplement our population.

If we do use robots and clones, we need to make sure they get equal rights same as normal-borns, to avoid long-term issues or injustices down the road.
 
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[X] Colony world: low population, medium notice, high population loyalty, low battle difficulty.

Core world is too risky, as we could lose the first battle, and even if we win it, we could easily suffer severe damage to the world and the millitary forces. A Colony World give us plenty of time to repair our one weakness.
 
[X] Colony world: low population, medium notice, high population loyalty, low battle difficulty.

I'm changing.
 
I love how no one considers the insurrection world lol :D

but ya if you guys are not aiming for a hard and fast game while having to defend your starting planet a lot for a bit then you are best off with either the colony world or the rebel world...
Adhoc vote count started by san on Mar 2, 2018 at 11:20 AM, finished with 106 posts and 5 votes.
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    [x] Core World: High population, High notice, medium population loyalty, High battle difficulty.
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[X] Colony world: low population, medium notice, high population loyalty, low battle difficulty.

I'm honestly more interested in merging with the UNSC then starting a new Dominion and taking over. The Dominion at it's best was only slightly better then the UEG/UNSC at it's worst. To hell with the Dominion really.
 
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GhostKing 666 said:
[x] Core World: High population, High notice, medium population loyalty, High battle difficulty.

I'm honestly more interested in merging with the UNSC then starting a new Dominion and taking over. The Dominion at it's best was only slightly better then the UEG/UNSC at it's worst. To hell with the Dominion really.
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Ok I will be real with you if thats your reasoning... a core world is the WORST choice for you if thats what you want. You will start off at war with the UNSC if you choose that and it will be a LONG while before you can even be peaceful with them.
 
san said:
Ok I will be real with you if thats your reasoning... a core world is the WORST choice for you if thats what you want. You will start off at war with the UNSC if you choose that and it will be a LONG while before you can even be peaceful with them.
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Ok changed to a colony world then, is that better or should I pick Insurrectionist?
 
Changing vote now that I think about it...

but still hoping for a dominion of the human race... really don't like how the UNSC goes about, especially with the idoit balls being dropped everywhere.

[X] Colony world: low population, medium notice, high population loyalty, low battle difficulty.

This seems best of both worlds...but still there I strongly suggest that if the UNSC breaks down (its possible in this quest) we pick up the pieces for humanity to safe-guard them and do a slow and stable expansion...

also question for Sans...would the covenant be able to find us with our warp-drives? The UNSC and Covenant use slip-space...a rather different FTL system then what we have.
 
RandomDwarf said:
also question for Sans...would the covenant be able to find us with our warp-drives? The UNSC and Covenant use slip-space...a rather different FTL system then what we have.
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well... the covenant can't track your warp drives no... but you are kind of in UNSC space atm sooo you will probs be found anyway ya know?
 
RandomDwarf said:
Changing vote now that I think about it...

but still hoping for a dominion of the human race... really don't like how the UNSC goes about, especially with the idoit balls being dropped everywhere.

[X] Colony world: low population, medium notice, high population loyalty, low battle difficulty.

This seems best of both worlds...but still there I strongly suggest that if the UNSC breaks down (its possible in this quest) we pick up the pieces for humanity to safe-guard them and do a slow and stable expansion...

also question for Sans...would the covenant be able to find us with our warp-drives? The UNSC and Covenant use slip-space...a rather different FTL system then what we have.
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What you mean not ruthlessly oppressing and attacking it's own citizens and brainwashing dissidents into being cannon fodder grunts? The worst that the UEG/UNSC has ever done were the second and third Spartan programs and the shit ONI has been flanderized into doing. Compared to the Confederacy, the Dominion and the UED that stuff's all Tuesday. Even valerian's government isn't completely clean, otherwise he wouldn't have had to deal with a coup attempt and step down.
 
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What you mean not ruthlessly oppressing and attacking it's own citizens and brainwashing dissidents into being cannon fodder grunts? The worst that the UEG/UNSC has ever done were the second and third Spartan programs and the shit ONI has been flanderized into doing. Compared to the Confederacy, the Dominion and the UED that stuff's all Tuesday. Even valerian's government isn't completely clean, otherwise he wouldn't have had to deal with a coup attempt and step down.
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ehhh to be fair the coup was attempted because he did the right thing and stepped aside letting his daddy die and then later worked alongside peaceful aliens to prevent the end of existence.

also... the UNSC has its own coup, is very corrupt in its own right, and morally has a lot of issues too.

but none of this matters at all... because you literally CAN'T set up a new dominion (or at least something named that.) because as will be explained later once finish her character sheet you character hates Mengsk, never knew Valerian and there are too many parallels between the UEG and the UED especially that name for your character to like or trust them right away.

EDIT: also good news, I already got everything up until this vote is relevant complete so once I close this it will be fairly easy to finish up the chapter at a decent pace.
 
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san said:
ehhh to be fair the coup was attempted because he did the right thing and stepped aside letting his daddy die and then later worked alongside peaceful aliens to prevent the end of existence.

also... the UNSC has its own coup, is very corrupt in its own right, and morally has a lot of issues too.

but none of this matters at all... because you literally CAN'T set up a new dominion (or at least something named that.) because as will be explained later once finish her character sheet you character hates Mengsk, never knew Valerian and there are too many parallels between the UEG and the UED especially that name for your character to like or trust them right away.
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well a new government then? because like I said, I don't like the unsc much, and with our character, she wont like the UNSC and compare them to the UED constantly...which is not so far off.

so a break-away colony...we might end up with a constitutional monarchy at this rate, though were going to have to be careful to insure loyalty, as well as increasing population growth with time.

also is UNSC medical technology better then Terran tech? because in some cases I read that in halo-verse humans could live up to 200 years, not sure how long for terrans due to the attrition they have...
 
san said:
ehhh to be fair the coup was attempted because he did the right thing and stepped aside letting his daddy die and then later worked alongside peaceful aliens to prevent the end of existence.

also... the UNSC has its own coup, is very corrupt in its own right, and morally has a lot of issues too.

but none of this matters at all... because you literally CAN'T set up a new dominion (or at least something named that.) because as will be explained later once finish her character sheet you character hates Mengsk, never knew Valerian and there are too many parallels between the UEG and the UED especially that name for your character to like or trust them right away.

EDIT: also good news, I already got everything up until this vote is relevant complete so once I close this it will be fairly easy to finish up the chapter at a decent pace.
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The hell? The only parallels between the UEG and the UED is the name, having the earth as their capitol and the UNSC having an eagle motif, that's it. The UEG is a representative democratic government even if the UNSC suspended the civilian government during the Covenant War, they still reinstated it after the war. The UED on the other hand are literal fascist Nazis. Comparing the two is almost like comparing the Terran Empire to the Federation.
 
RandomDwarf said:
well a new government then? because like I said, I don't like the unsc much, and with our character, she wont like the UNSC and compare them to the UED constantly...which is not so far off.

so a break-away colony...we might end up with a constitutional monarchy at this rate, though were going to have to be careful to insure loyalty, as well as increasing population growth with time.

also is UNSC medical technology better then Terran tech? because in some cases I read that in halo-verse humans could live up to 200 years, not sure how long for terrans due to the attrition they have...
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The UNSC is better in BIOLOGICAL medical technology... but considering you can literally send a stream of nanobots to heal troops in the middle of a battle? they are a joke compared to you when it comes to healing wounds.

and yes you can make a new government or even EVENTUALLY join the UNSC, but merging with it is almost impossible though allying it is fairly likely atm. Most likely you will start with your own government, ally them during the war, and then later on you work together to found a NEW government combining both of your current ones.
 
GhostKing 666 said:
The hell? The only parallels between the UEG and the UED is the name, having the earth as their capitol and the UNSC having an eagle motif, that's it. The UEG is a representative democratic government even if the UNSC suspended the civilian government during the Covenant War, they still reinstated it after the war. The UED on the other hand are literal fascist Nazis. Comparing the two is almost like comparing the Terran Empire to the Federation.
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yes... BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. all you will know is that just like the confederacy or dominion they prioritize core worlds over colony worlds, that their governments place Earth first and all its core worlds second, with colonies a very distant third. That they had a major rebellion over colony worlds that wished to separate that was met with HEAVY reprisal including sending LITERAL SUPER SOLDIERS at them. Finally you will know that the military arm controls it currently and that civilians have little say at best in what happens atm.

yes the UEG is BETTER, but they are not even close to a clean and uncorrupt government.
 
san said:
are too many parallels between the UEG and the UED especially that name for your character to like or trust them.
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..... :rofl:

GhostKing 666 said:
The UED on the other hand are literal fascist Nazis.
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1: Those "few" bad things the UNSC has done are pretty damn bad, and could be considered borderline fascist at times, or at least on par with the government in Starship Troopers (which is pretty damn awful).
2: *points at Stukov and his magnificent sweater, then at Nazis, and shakes head disapprovingly*
 
I agree with King, the UNSC really does show just how bad humans could be if we colonize outer space...but consider this, were showing a different option for colony worlds...maybe we can get a core world that's on the edge of UNSC "borderline" between colony space and core world space...that way we can do the slow-turtle expansion if we end up at war with the unsc...

on the ground we win, because were just to damn tough to dislodge...not to mention our BASIC marines could kill Spartans with ridiculous ease with their gauss rifles (if a sniper rifle can kill a Spartan, a gauss gun can certainly do so!)

but in space? that's a different cake-walk...were going to need to expand our Battle cruisers and make other screen-type ships...otherwise we might get overwhelmed by sheer numbers.
 
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I agree with King, the UNSC really does show just how bad humans could be if we colonize outer space...but consider this, were showing a different option for colony worlds...maybe we can get a core world that's on the edge of UNSC "borderline" between colony space and core world space...that way we can do the slow-turtle expansion if we end up at war with the unsc...

on the ground we win, because were just to damn tough to dislodge...not to mention our BASIC marines could kill Spartans with ridiculous ease with their gauss rifles (if a sniper rifle can kill a Spartan, a gauss gun can certainly do so!)

but in space? that's a different cake-walk...were going to need to expand our Battle cruisers and make other screen-type ships...otherwise we might get overwhelmed by sheer numbers.
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actually your marines only win vs spartans when massed in numbers equal to 10-1 at the bare minimum. This is based on the story not the game remember? This means spartans are a LOT stronger than normal. the main reason ground battle is a cakewalk is because siege tanks and thors... those two things make EVERYTHING, even scarabs, in halo look like a pathetic joke.

as for space... the main reason Battlecruisers can't just 1v1 the largest covenant ships is because they are ironically not made solely for the purpose of battle. They are production facilities, mobile command centers, troop carriers, aircraft hangers and more all rolled into one ship. If you build a proper pure warship with JUST Terran technology about 30% larger than your regular BC's, they will probs be able to 1v1 even some of the largest Covenant ships. Plus if you add Covenant shielding and plasma technology refined with Terran methods and knowledge then you would be able to 1v1 Forerunner ships of the same size.
 
King Tharassian said:
1: Those "few" bad things the UNSC has done are pretty damn bad, and could be considered borderline fascist at times, or at least on par with the government in Starship Troopers (which is pretty damn awful).
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And as I said that shit is all Tuesday as far as any Terran government is concerned save the Umojans. They all did worse as a routine. The Confederacy was a heavily corrupt oligarchy, the Dominion a heavily corrupt dictatorship, the UED fascist Nazis and the Kel-Morian Combine a profit minded Corporatocracy. Of all the Terran governments the Umojan Protectorate were the only ones that gave a damn about human rights or democratic government. The UEG/UNSC has it's flaws, but most of said flaws laid in the heavy handedness Colonial Administration Authority(which has since been stripped of all real power) and an ONI that has grown out of control thanks first to having to clean up the CAA's mess and then to the desperation of the Covenant War.

RandomDwarf said:
I agree with King, the UNSC really does show just how bad humans could be if we colonize outer space...
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You don't know StarCraft then, believe me all but one of the Terran governments are all a hell of a lot worse.
 
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