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That works if you assume that these things don't need to be charged or maintained or have anything done to them at a regular basis. This might not be the case for balance reasons if nothing else.
Fools, We Will Destroy You All! ...After We Save The World! (Mad Scientist Riot Quest)(RECRUITING!)
- Thread starter We Just Write
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Are Forging Furnaces a free action or how does that work?
I'm still not clear on that stuff, what I'm seeing gives me the impression they are.
I'm still not clear on that stuff, what I'm seeing gives me the impression they are.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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I don't think that robots alone can expand a base (or at least w/o suffering a lone wolf debuff), but it would be interesting if they can.
5x5x5 = 125. You're making 160, no?
a) hopefully your capsule tech will work. Would you mind briefing me on what it does?
b) I'm not making a Mine so that you can fill it with robots and I doubt the other people establishing the other base are, either. I'm trying to establish a deadly plant fortest (portmanteau of forest & fortress) and eventually create trees that secrete globular orbs filled with the desired metals so that humanity can mine in a sustainable way. Admittedly I'll probably still use the spider bots to mine, but I'm just going to be turning the place into a biotech laboratory as we progress along the veins. Robots are cool and all, but bio- and nanotech is, in my highly biased opinion, cooler.
Yes, they are. Not to make new ones yourself, but commanding the current FF's to make more FF's or other things is indeed a free action.
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And I, personally, would very much like space for some additional Motobugs and Buzzkill; I don't want the new bases suddenly having all their store room eaten up by mass numbers of Spider Bots.
The Buzzkill especially I want to make sure there's room for.
Would it really be a Von Neumann machine, or would we be talking
Ylamona
Konlulu~
Black Blood could transform into (spooky scary) skeleton that could make other black blood/goo/skeleton by hugging. Does it matter? This is a totally RADICAL and MAD idea?
Isn't powergaming fun?
- Location
- The United States
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- He/They
[X] Go rescue Eggman (enables @Space Jawato ignore the Lost status)
[X] Write-In
-[x] Infiltrate into the Illuminati's information network.
@Shadowhisker, @Shadowhope, @Moronis, @Robotninja, @Revya Alt.Zero :Anybody down to figure out what the Illuminati knows?
[X] Design a blueprint
-[X] L.E.A.R.N.E.R. 1.5.4
--[X] A direct upgrade to the L.E.A.R.N.E.R. that allows for increased experience gain in all fields and not just Research
[X] Write-In
-[x] Infiltrate into the Illuminati's information network.
@Shadowhisker, @Shadowhope, @Moronis, @Robotninja, @Revya Alt.Zero :Anybody down to figure out what the Illuminati knows?
[X] Design a blueprint
-[X] L.E.A.R.N.E.R. 1.5.4
--[X] A direct upgrade to the L.E.A.R.N.E.R. that allows for increased experience gain in all fields and not just Research
Only so long as it doesn't come back to bite us in the butt.
Because when have zombie apocalypses ever not been a bad thing?
If that's the case then storage space is not the problem, but rather maintenance bays. A problem that will only be a problem for that one turn because then the robots would make the bays
I don't see why they wouldn't be able to. Its not exactly complex work.
I rounded down from 5.4 Even with the extra bit of size what i said before stands.
Dynacap Capsules (from Dragon Ball) can turn things into convenient capsules that are much easier to carry around when you aren't using it. We haven't seen a limit to how big of a thing can be put into a capsule, and we know for certain that (in cannon atleast) you could fit entire buildings into one.
You are exaggerating how much space is needed. The mine will hardly be filled with them, 160 of them can fit in less space than most cars, and there will almost certainly be atleast one cars worth of room somewhere on the new bases.
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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People are, to my mind extremely clearly, worried not about the effects of merely 160 of them but rather about what will happen if you continue on thinking the same way, making 160 every turn.
Also, personally, I doubt we're actually going to get a minion limit by theoretical size of robot.
yeah this is what I wanted
a) black blood's duplication effect gets triggered when you feel stressed (i.e. battle). This is necessary so that when you get a papercut in the lab it doesn't devour all of your machines.
b) the robots that form from your blood eating the ground around where it fell are then telepathically connected to you and obey your commands and sometimes mirror what movements you've trained into the blood through practice.
c) At some point, the nanobots in the blood could use the angelfield to form a protective utility fog so that we get blood armor + weapons.
Again, another issue you making is assuming that you get first dibs on new space in other bases that other people are working on putting together, despite at the very least @Umi-san and I saying that's not going to be the case.
You're running your plans on a lot of assumptions in the most annoying way right now, really. Assumptions that Op-only Bots are all we need space wise, assumptions that there's no possibility that space could be an issue, assumptions that you get whatever space you want for your Op bots to build all the additional storage space you could possibly need, assumptions that a solution to our space issue is guaranteed to happen before it becomes a problem...
All of it leading up to an assumption that there's absolutely no downside or restrictions to building max Spider Bots until we get as many as you think we need for whatever arbitrary reason, because MAXIMUM OPERATIONS FTW or something.
Which I guess works on some IC level with a Business-based character, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating to deal with from.
@I just write, How many Amon Hen systems are there?
Oh that's an even simpler solution to address. A portion of this 160 (maybe half) will be dedicated to base building, making more room for the next generation. Probably in another dimension. I do plan on accelerating production, but Id be simultaneously be handling all the stuff that entails. The only way my robotic hoards should effect the other Mad Scientists is beneficial, helping them out with whatever endeavor they take.
Size should atleast play a part, you need more room for a hundred Norms than you do for a Spiderbots. Until an actual system is introduced, I'm going to go off of physical size.
Genon
Baron Awesomesauce the Magnificent
- Location
- Neptune
[X] Continue work on Skillsoft blueprint
[X[ Save Eggman
[X] Combat Training
Also, may I propose the following computer-science invention?
[X[ Save Eggman
[X] Combat Training
Also, may I propose the following computer-science invention?
An extremely-advanced version of the physics engines already found in video games and computer simulations the world over, the Sandbox is the greatest achievement in computing since the invention of the NetNavi. It is effectively a supercomputer with such unparalleled power that it can simulate an area the size of the observable universe, atom-for-atom, allowing MAD researchers an ideal testing ground for their experiments so long as they are purely physical in nature. You can test your planet busters and black-hole machines in here, as well as eliminate the need for test subjects almost completely, but you cannot simulate anything that disobeys the basic laws of physics, meaning that simulations of magic or divine interventions are off-limits baring an upgrade. It is also possible to simulate the growth of societies, have realistic conversations with simulated brains, screw with a simulated rat's biology in new and fascinating ways, and so on, without fear of breaking anything (or anyone) important.
Effects: Can be used like a minion for one Research action per turn, massively boosting the odds of success. However, it is limited by known natural laws. This means that it cannot be used for experiments that are magical or spiritual in nature unless it is upgraded to do so, likely in the form of an extremely-complex software patch. It also cannot be used for experiments that cross dimensions or examine other universes, as it can only simulate, at most, a physical space the size of the known universe barring hardware upgrades. Multiple Sandboxes can be built.
Effects: Can be used like a minion for one Research action per turn, massively boosting the odds of success. However, it is limited by known natural laws. This means that it cannot be used for experiments that are magical or spiritual in nature unless it is upgraded to do so, likely in the form of an extremely-complex software patch. It also cannot be used for experiments that cross dimensions or examine other universes, as it can only simulate, at most, a physical space the size of the known universe barring hardware upgrades. Multiple Sandboxes can be built.
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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until an actual system is introduced that includes size, I will be going off of numbers. 1 variable rather than 2.
As long as you're going to be dedicating all of your actions toward progressing this and not using up other peoples' space (w/o asking, of course. Like, I'm pretty sure whoever the heck is involved in the Junkyard won't mind giving over one of the storerooms) or an overwhelming amount of income (which the Forging Furnaces should cover) it's fine.
Solve the problems before they occur and be careful not to overcommit and i'll support/not oppose you. Though I honestly do wish you'd build the 1 combat 1 operations bots. Pure-combat bots are more effective in combat but useless otherwise and we're probably going to go w/o combat at least one turn.
The assumptions you listed in order
- The only lot of bots I'm assuming there will be space for is the one I'm making this turn. And I would hardly call it an assumption, if they can go literally nowhere else they can go in the empty parking spot not used by your egg or the rocket car. There is a third space. Everything after that the bots will make.
- I do not see how combat, espionage, or research robots would help with the building of more space. Unless you mean not needing to put other bots in that space, then you are just wrong. We got the space, and I'm making the space.
- I'm only assuming that for this turn
- We got several dozen other dimensions i can stick the new bases in addition to the entire planet. Id be shocked if they get all used up.
- Not an assumption, I'm planning on making it so. That's what building bots are for, building more space.
- I'm not building max spider bots, already I'm splitting production with making net navis to help everyone. As production amps up, less of it will be needed by operations.
We Just Write
Blatantly Plural
- Location
- New England
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- Plural
"Enough."
@I just write
I know you're running this right now, but given scenes featuring fights are usually the best part to read... Well, I wanted to know if you would consider my suggestion next time to go on a simpler battle RIOT quest, without having to manage things that usually seems to have you rip your hair out managing.
I know you're running this right now, but given scenes featuring fights are usually the best part to read... Well, I wanted to know if you would consider my suggestion next time to go on a simpler battle RIOT quest, without having to manage things that usually seems to have you rip your hair out managing.
Moronis
Has-Too-Many-Fictional-Children
- Location
- NC
[X] Go rescue Eggman (enables @Space Jawato ignore the Lost status)
[X] Write-In
-[x] Infiltrate into the Illuminati's information network.
[X] Design a blueprint
-[X] L.E.A.R.N.E.R. 1.5.4
--[X] A direct upgrade to the L.E.A.R.N.E.R. that allows for increased experience gain in all fields and not just Research
I'll just stick with this for the time being unless I find something else that I could help with better.
[X] Write-In
-[x] Infiltrate into the Illuminati's information network.
[X] Design a blueprint
-[X] L.E.A.R.N.E.R. 1.5.4
--[X] A direct upgrade to the L.E.A.R.N.E.R. that allows for increased experience gain in all fields and not just Research
I'll just stick with this for the time being unless I find something else that I could help with better.
Ylamona
Konlulu~
We all love eggman and It's a picnic/travelling too!It is a free action.
I mean at 2.5 mach eggman probably several kms from where we are, so picnic!
theflyingbiscuit
"Titanic neechan"
"You don't have to be the best spymaster. You just have to read his mail."