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[X] [AdP] Preperations for the Revolution
-[X] Smuggle guns from our allies to arm ourselves. 10 funds. Gives 160 weaponry.
--[X]… and properly train them. Instead it gives 800 lightly armed militia (Q -5).
-[X] Work with the Mexican Liberal Party to make inroads with northern miners and farmworkers to establish aligned unions. 13 funds. 961/1000
--[X] Encourage these unions to join the ACUA.

Gonna keep pretending the revolution isn't real, it can't hurt me
 
[][FHM]ships?
[] Make a standardized bureaucracy for the organization to maintain cohesion in it and all its branches. Gives +1 action, 30 funds, -5 funds per turn (cost scales with size)
[] Have the infiltrated men in the Manilla work with the Philippine Army to seize the US Pacific Fleet. 5/15 funds.

For United Front Provisional Government West plan

[] Establish a Workers Planning Council built off of the Factory Management Council (which is too integrated into the FHM's internal politics to just transfer into the government) for the west coast and west to centrally manage all industry, allowing for a more effective war economy and elimination of private enterprise from the current mix of what is effectively cooperatives. +1 action, +1 weaponry, +1 equipment.
[] Establish a unified command for the army, merging all current militia into it. They gain the benefits of each merged militia, and including bonuses from the Revolutionary Government's army if they standardize this turn.
[] Concessions to Chinese-American business owners
-[] Set up a fund to reimburse them for any nationalized property.

I'm not sure what to do with the Revolutionary Army action
 

The Minutemen:

67,992 supporters
4 actions, 8 funds
By quarter:
Q1: 1 free
Q2: 1 free
Q3: 1 free
Q4: 1 free

[][Min]Plan business study
-[] Invest in new startup companies using new and old dismissed theories of management, using them as part of research. 8 funds.

[X][Min]Plan feds at the door
-[X] Raid military and industrial supply lines in Pennsylvania. 8 funds

Well, don't really think I have much variety in what I could really do. And unless the 8 funds covers all 4 quarters there is no point whatsoever to not just throw the Min's tiny warchest at whatever I am doing this turn, short of negative narrative impact. Would be nice to further the business research, but with most of the orgs presence in PA, the feds are basically in the backyard complicating lots of things given the whole subverting army thing.

Edit: As far as japan wanting a Hawaii base...
I think that is a choice that should exercise caution, because Hawaii is a massive deal strategically and japan may decide to do some shenanigans to ensure they get and keep the ability to base from there. After all, it was the strategic position plus some imperialism that OTL led to the US annexing the corp formed 'nation', after some time rejecting them because of it's formation from corporate shenanagins.
 
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Themarineguy said:

The Minutemen:

67,992 supporters
4 actions, 8 funds
By quarter:
Q1: 1 free
Q2: 1 free
Q3: 1 free
Q4: 1 free

[][Min]Plan business study
-[] Invest in new startup companies using new and old dismissed theories of management, using them as part of research. 8 funds.

[X][Min]Plan feds at the door
-[X] Raid military and industrial supply lines in Pennsylvania. 8 funds

Well, don't really think I have much variety in what I could really do. And unless the 8 funds covers all 4 quarters there is no point whatsoever to not just throw the Min's tiny warchest at whatever I am doing this turn, short of negative narrative impact. Would be nice to further the business research, but with most of the orgs presence in PA, the feds are basically in the backyard complicating lots of things given the whole subverting army thing.

Edit: As far as japan wanting a Hawaii base...
I think that is a choice that should exercise caution, because Hawaii is a massive deal strategically and japan may decide to do some shenanigans to ensure they get and keep the ability to base from there. After all, it was the strategic position plus some imperialism that OTL led to the US annexing the corp formed 'nation', after some time rejecting them because of it's formation from corporate shenanagins.
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Honestly, I might suggest using your actions this turn to encourage defections of the federal army this turn, especially since TFAM action to di the same should synergise. Any defections would rlly help the war effort in terms of manpower, equipment Intel and morale while giving you more to work with in future turns.
 
Sara said:
Honestly, I might suggest using your actions this turn to encourage defections of the federal army this turn, especially since TFAM action to di the same should synergise. Any defections would rlly help the war effort in terms of manpower, equipment Intel and morale while giving you more to work with in future turns.
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Ah... :oops:
Physici said:
—Note this only still exists in the western Northern Army, in Texas and Arkansas, and among the soldiers who defected to the United Front.
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Physici said:
[] Have the army network in the western Northern Government armies call for mass defections to Louisiana.
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I kinda overlooked the fact the Min had connections there. I guess time to freak the feds out more.😅

[X][Min]Plan calling on friends
-[X] Have the army network in the western Northern Government armies call for mass defections to Louisiana. 8 funds
 
Themarineguy said:
Well, don't really think I have much variety in what I could really do. And unless the 8 funds covers all 4 quarters there is no point whatsoever to not just throw the Min's tiny warchest at whatever I am doing this turn, short of negative narrative impact. Would be nice to further the business research, but with most of the orgs presence in PA, the feds are basically in the backyard complicating lots of things given the whole subverting army thing.
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You get 8 funds per quarter and if you're needing to have more funds for an action, a new universal action has been added:

[] Save funds for next quarter. ? funds. (Free action)

And yeah, the best way that the Minutemen have and can help is with that network. It's made an enormous difference to have the soldiers remember that they're also citizens, regardless of the tyranny of their officers.
 
I honestly have no idea what to do. I have two actions and too many fires to put out on top of existing obligations.

I need more funds. More manpower. I need to get Dark Winter Tools back online.

Also dammit. Is the UF stealing my gun factory? What the fuck man! That's not fucking cool! I thought we were on the same side but apparently not.
 
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[X][Min]Plan calling on friends and preserving funds
-[X] Have the army network in the western Northern Government armies call for mass defections to Louisiana.
-[X] Save funds for next quarter. 8 funds. (Free action)
 
Ramble said:
I honestly have no idea what to do. I have two actions and too many fires to put out on top of existing obligations.

I need more funds. More manpower. I need to get Dark Winter Tools back online.

Also dammit. Is the UF stealing my gun factory? What the fuck man! That's not fucking cool! I thought we were on the same side but apparently not.
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Godwinson said:
No?

It was seized by our enemies.
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The Dakota factory was seized by UF's enemies. The California factory has not been seized yet but a general nationalization of military industry (the Workers Planning Council action of California) would include it, as it includes all military industry. There would have to be a special exception made otherwise.
 
Physici said:
The Dakota factory was seized by UF's enemies. The California factory has not been seized yet but a general nationalization of military industry (the Workers Planning Council action of California) would include it, as it includes all military industry. There would have to be a special exception made otherwise.
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I had been under the impression that the action in question was a nationalization of UF-org holdings, not everything. Good to know.
 
[] Integrate the Californian arms factory into the WSG.

I'm assuming that integrating into WSG will auto veto nationalization.

And assuming nothing else, I'll be dumping all 13 funds into this one.

[] Agitate in the army to defect to your cause. ? funds.
-[] Northern

Also, do I know now many enemy troops are squatting in the DWT factory? How many would I need to kick them out?
 
Ramble said:
[] Integrate the Californian arms factory into the WSG.

I'm assuming that integrating into WSG will auto veto nationalization.

And assuming nothing else, I'll be dumping all 13 funds into this one.

[] Agitate in the army to defect to your cause. ? funds.
-[] Northern

Also, do I know now many enemy troops are squatting in the DWT factory? How many would I need to kick them out?
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The relevant armies are:

Minnesota: 2400 NCA (Q -10), 250 militia
ND: 400 NCA (Q -10), 100 militia
SD: 600 NCA (Q -10), 120 militia
—Weaponry: 4
—Equipment: 3
—Food: 5
—Morale: 6

Edit: And for reference the WSG is quality -5, making them significantly better than the NCA irregulars but worse than the state militia.
 
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[] Integrate the Californian arms factory into the WSG.

I'm assuming that integrating into WSG will auto veto nationalization.
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There's a listed option for that

[] Resist nationalization of the California arms factory, and have the union publicly vote so.

Though I'd rather figure out something besides that sort of thing. Especially since the typical planners for the ACUA and FHM haven't arrived yet and the proposed plan was a draft someone floated rather than a final ultimatum or the like.
 
Godwinson said:
There's a listed option for that

[] Resist nationalization of the California arms factory, and have the union publicly vote so.

Though I'd rather figure out something besides that sort of thing. Especially since the typical planners for the ACUA and FHM haven't arrived yet and the proposed plan was a draft someone floated rather than a final ultimatum or the like.
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I'll wait and see what they say then.

Though my other motive for integrating the Cali factory is to get the Training facility running at full speed. I would like to start taking actions to liberate the Dakotas sometime soon.

I also need to free up 400 guards to fulfill my UF obligations as well.
 
At this point you might want to post the army info-sheet in its own threadmarked post, Physici, since it seems like a lot of folks missed it.
 
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1903 Q2 Armies
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    • The following numbers are approximates for the end of Q2, with some orgs IC knowing better than others. The Weaponry, Equipment, and Food stats represent logistics and affect the performance and noncombat attrition of that army going forward. Morale affects desertion rate and if very low gives a modifier to combat.

    All armies on the side of the United Front are in italics.

    Player Artillery Production (per quarter):
    Provisional Government (Midwest): 18
    —Chicago Factory: 17
    —Rock Island Arsenal: 1

    Revolutionary Government: 5.25
    —Distributed Town Production: 5.25

    Texas Front:
    Primarily along Texas' eastern border.

    Northern Army: 8,806 (quality +4)
    —44 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 10
    —Morale: 8
    —Large Minutemen network

    Southern Army: 3,525 (quality +3)
    —Weaponry: 4
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 6
    —Morale: 3

    Mississippi/Tennessee:
    From Mississippi's western border to Kentucky.

    Northern Army: 23,885 (quality +4)
    —116 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 5
    —Food: 9
    —Morale: 6
    —Moderate Minutemen network
    Southern Army: 12,878 (quality +3)
    —18 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 2
    —Equipment: 3
    —Food: 2
    —Morale: 1

    United Front Forces:
    —Louisiana State Militia: 2354 (Q +2)
    —WIA Volunteers: 3708 (Q +4)
    —TRV: 947 (Q +2)
    —Spartacists: 1894 (Q +7)
    —16 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 5
    —Equipment: 5
    —Food: 6
    —Morale: 8

    Louisiana:
    Northern Army: 6,000 (Q +4)
    —60 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 5
    —Food: 9
    —Morale: 6
    —Moderate Minutemen network
    Louisiana State Militia: 1130 (Q +0)

    Eastern Front:
    Primarily near D.C, from Appalachia to the coast.

    Northern Army: 11,789 (quality +4)
    —77 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 2
    —Food: 1
    —Morale: 1

    Maryland UF: 14,663 (Quality +4)
    —Additional Untrained: 7766 (Quality -5)
    —25 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 6
    —Equipment: 8
    —Food: 5
    —Morale: 5

    Southern Army: 16,612 (quality +4)
    —89 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 4
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 3

    Virginia:
    Southern Army: 14,532 (quality +4)
    —45 units of artillery
    —Weaponry: 2
    —Equipment: 5
    —Food: 6
    —Morale: 2

    Guerrilla Army: 2432 total
    —900 CDC (Q +3)
    —900 PMFs (Q +5)
    —532 revolutionaries (Q -5)
    —Weaponry: 5
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 8

    Northeast:

    Pittsburgh/Erie:
    CDC: 1031 (Q +4)
    FF: 949 (Q +2)
    TRV: 2791 (Q +2)
    PG Army: 9351 (Q +2)
    TV: 3146 (Q +0)
    —Weaponry: 6
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 7

    West Virginia:
    RDC: 254 (Q -2)
    Untrained: 1200
    —Weaponry: 6
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 7

    NYC:
    Revolutionaries: 15,200 (Q -5)
    CDC: 3761 (Q +2)
    FF: 5637 (Q +0)
    TRV: 261 (Q +2)
    Soldiers: 3132 (Q +4)
    —Weaponry: 5
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 3
    —Morale: 7

    Other Northeastern pockets:
    Revolutionaries: 4,000 (Q -8)
    Minutemen: 272 (Q +7)
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 3
    —Food: 9
    —Morale: 7

    Far northeast:
    8200 Revolutionaries (Q -8)
    600 CDC (Q +0)
    200 FF (Q -2)
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 4
    —Food: 6
    —Morale: 7

    Rhode Island:
    4000 Revolutionaries (Q -8)
    —Weaponry: 8
    —Equipment: 7
    —Food: 4
    —Morale: 7

    18,021 Northern Infantry
    —9,000 at NYC (Q +4)
    —3,007 in Massachusetts (Q +4)
    —2,622 in Pennsylvania (Q +5)
    —Weaponry: 5
    —Equipment: 7
    —Food: 4
    —Morale: 5

    Midwest:

    Ohio:
    Untrained: 18,440 (Q -8)
    —Weaponry: 6
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 7

    Wisconsin:
    TRV: 300 (Q +0)
    State militia: 2,300 (Q +0)
    —Weaponry: 6
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 7

    Illinois/Indiana:
    TRV: 700 (Q +0)
    State militia: 10,232 (Q +0)
    —Weaponry: 7
    —Equipment: 6
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 7

    Minnesota: 2400 NCA (Q -10), 250 militia
    ND: 400 NCA (Q -10), 100 militia
    SD: 600 NCA (Q -10), 120 militia
    —Weaponry: 4
    —Equipment: 3
    —Food: 5
    —Morale: 6

    St. Paul/Minneapolis: 300 untrained, 330 militia
    —Weaponry: 6
    —Equipment: 5
    —Food: 6
    —Morale: 5

    Northern Army (Missouri): 8000 (Q +4)
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 5
    —Food: 9
    —Morale: 6
    —Small Minutemen network

    West/west coast:

    West Coast:
    Untrained: 13,950 (Q -10)
    YS: 1088 (Q -4)
    State militia: 4400 (Q +0)
    —Weaponry: 4
    —Equipment: 4
    —Food: 7
    —Morale: 7

    OR/WA state militia: 300
    —Weaponry: 2
    —Equipment: 2
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 5

    Colorado/Wyoming:
    Untrained: 3,500 (Q -10)
    State militia: 1617 (Q +0)
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 2
    —Food: 6
    —Morale: 6

    Montana Workers: 500 (Q -10)
    —Weaponry: 1
    —Equipment: 1
    —Food: 8
    —Morale: 3

    State of Montana: 80 militia (Q 0), 400 settler militia (Q -5)
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 3
    —Food: 4
    —Morale: 5

    Hawaii:
    Untrained: 800
    YS: 200 (Q -4)
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 3
    —Food: 6
    —Morale: 10

    Southern Partisan Fighting:
    United Front:
    —3036 AotT (Q -5),
    —1000 CDC (Q +1),
    —5193 TFAM (Q +5),
    —500 TRV (Q +0),
    —3750 PMFs (Q +3)
    —2000 WIA Volunteers (Q +2)
    —4900 untrained (Q -10)
    —Weaponry: 5
    —Equipment: 4
    —Food: 6
    —Morale: 8

    Southern Counter-Revolutionary Forces: 24000 (Q -8)
    White Union Army: 1450 West, 3509 Atlantic (Q +1)
    —Weaponry: 3
    —Equipment: 3
    —Food: 4
    —Morale: 7

    Fleets:

    United Front:
    More than half of the Caribbean Fleet, blockading the South. Based in New Orleans.
    A third of the Atlantic Fleet in Baltimore.

    Northern Government:
    The remaining Caribbean Fleet and most of the Atlantic Fleet, based in Philadelphia and blockading the Mid-Atlantic coast.

    Southern Government:
    Few ships, building more.
     
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    • Physici said:
    This time the militia stood strong, defending the Red and Black City. From inside the city the rich fled, their assets expropriated and the factories turned towards the revolutionaries' ends. The mostly empied forts were captured, establishing New York City as a solidly controlled base. They were divided by sea from the rest of the United Front, the US navy pivoted north to blockade them, albeit an extremely weak one due to now needing to cover almost the entire southern and eastern coasts.
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    Given that it's been known for a while that the NYC police were controlled by anarchists, I am surprised that the Fat Cats still kept much wealth in the City.
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    I'm talking about the wider possibilist faction that tried to ditch the rest of the movement and stay in the Federal Government as "loyal opposition". That is the betrayal I'm talking about. The revolution had already drawn the battle lines and they tried to go to the other side, that's textbook definition of betrayal.
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    It's only a betrayal if the premise that the battle lines were drawn is accepted. For those who disagree with that premise, or the idea that the only option is violence now rather than compromise now in order to fight the even worse enemy, but maintain the option of violence later, I don't think it would seem like a betrayal.
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    Would downriver (technically part of different cities) not have the facilities? Might just change it to Newark if so.

    Ah right, I'll fix that. I meant anti-revolutionary and anti-violently seizing private property. I just internally conflate that with being anti-socialist. :V
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    The Philadelphia Naval Shipyard was a major shipyard that build Ships of the Line in the 1800s, and full-up battleships (including New Jersey and Wisconsin) in the 1900s. (Philadelphia Naval Shipyard - Wikipedia) I am not sure how much facilities the port would have to service a major fleet, but it seems likely that it would be possible with at most a bit of work.

    As for "not being in favor of violent revolution" being "anti-socialist", that... is definitely a problem on your end, since there are a lot of socialists who do not consider violent revolution the only/the best/a viable option.

    Also, for the Orange Disciples, would it be possible to do a specialized action along the lines of "Fund and organize assistance (food/shelter/medical care) for those displaced by or injured by the fighting"? (Possibly with some recruiting baked in.)
     
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    @Physici
    How many violations of the 3rd Amendment has the McKinley government been getting up to, with its occupation in New England? Given that the 3rd Amendment being at all ever relevant is, like, a litmus test for extraordinary overreach.
     
    Lightwhispers said:
    The Philadelphia Naval Shipyard was a major shipyard that build Ships of the Line in the 1800s, and full-up battleships (including New Jersey and Wisconsin) in the 1900s. (Philadelphia Naval Shipyard - Wikipedia) I am not sure how much facilities the port would have to service a major fleet, but it seems likely that it would be possible with at most a bit of work.
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    Ah thank you.

    Lightwhispers said:
    As for "not being in favor of violent revolution" being "anti-socialist", that... is definitely a problem on your end, since there are a lot of socialists who do not consider violent revolution the only/the best/a viable option.
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    It was just a joke because I mistyped, don't take it too seriously.

    Lightwhispers said:
    Also, for the Orange Disciples, would it be possible to do a specialized action along the lines of "Fund and organize assistance (food/shelter/medical care) for those displaced by or injured by the fighting"? (Possibly with some recruiting baked in.)
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    Yeah you can do a write-in like that.

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    @Physici
    How many violations of the 3rd Amendment has the McKinley government been getting up to, with its occupation in New England? Given that the 3rd Amendment being at all ever relevant is, like, a litmus test for extraordinary overreach.
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    Not very many since they're mostly buying from like apartment complexes but there's enough intimidation involved for a court case to be brought up.
     
    Physici said:
    Not very many since they're mostly buying from like apartment complexes but there's enough intimidation involved for a court case to be brought up.
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    Amazing.
    Lightwhispers said:
    Also, for the Orange Disciples, would it be possible to do a specialized action along the lines of "Fund and organize assistance (food/shelter/medical care) for those displaced by or injured by the fighting"? (Possibly with some recruiting baked in.)
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    Keep in mind that the soup kitchens and aid groups are being attacked in areas under Federal control, and that even before this crisis hit they considered the radical-progressives in the ARM to be little different from the socialists in the UF. It's a good and worthwhile action, but the effect of it in Federal-controlled areas will probably be limited.
     
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