Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
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Inb4 every party starts to support hemp, preventing its criminalization.
The American Experiment (Riot Quest)
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Tabascoheath
Unkempt, Evil-eyed Charlatan, and Pseudo-Mystic
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Once we get the TFAM farming scheme up and running we might get that choice, though how effective that will be is up in the air.
[X] The Land and Labor Reform Party
[X] The Society for Universal Suffrage
[X] The Society for Universal Suffrage
[X] West Coast Union Association
[X] The New American Patriots
[X] The New American Patriots
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- America
Gotta make Hemp too useful and profitable to criminalize.Inb4 every party starts to support hemp, preventing its criminalization.
If we actually do go down the Hemp tech progress tree, we might want to start with Hemp paper just because it's an existing product.
That, and hemp paper is 10 times stronger than wood pulp paper and you can straight up skip steps that are mandatory with wood pulp, driving down costs.
A concerted effort to overrun the paper industry would help that. Clothing too. Apparently hemp cloth is stronger, more flexible and generally lasts longer after washing than cotton.
In addition, hemp requires a fourth as much water for the same weight in cotton. Is lower maintenance, and can grow in more places and in harsher conditions than cotton which is a finicky bitch even when the soil is absolut magnifiq.
It seems like a lot of effort though. Probably just throw business loans at a hemp supply chain and just see if it works out.
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Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
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Point of Order...
Isn't those entirely the reasons why Hearst and other major industrialists wanted it outlawed in the first place?
Because it was undercutting their paper profits because he owned stakes in wood paper pulp industries (Along with newspaper, but that is a different story) and wanted to prevent his investments from losing him money? in addition to the fact that he could not have a monopoly on it due to its use and ease of growing?
Its criminal drug use becomes a factor to keep it from becoming legal to prevent it from being used in other industries?
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IIRC not really. He hated blacks first and used hemp as an attack vector. In fact, he had to go to great lengths to separate marijuana from hemp since hemp was a very useful product and everybody knew it.
There was a lot of high quality hemp paper, and all the rope in use by the US was made of hemp because no other materials were as strong for the same weight.
So by the time people realized that hemp products were disappearing it was too late. It was already illegalized so nothing could be done about it. Though other than rope, there were other inferior but workable products to replace hemp so there wasn't enough pain that people were willing to go bat for it.
So what we gotta do is push hemp paper, hemp cloth, and other hemp products from common to "near ubuquitous" and wrap the supply chain around hemp so that attempting to attack it goes from "aw shucks well guess I'm buying an inferior product" to "hemp is banned and now the supply chain is collapsing and everybody is losing their jobs!"
Wonderful idea, plus the asian farmers easily could get behind it since hemp has been a major part of their industry for much longer than western cultures...well iirc at least for indian and chinese peoples, not entirely sure what other countries were doing. I know korea was doing something with tree bark for a bit.
Edit:...wait shit we just invented the hemp lobby
Edit2:wonder if we could get people to buy into hempcrete as a fire resistant insulator, especially for those factories that have to deal with flammable shit
Edit:...wait shit we just invented the hemp lobby
Edit2:wonder if we could get people to buy into hempcrete as a fire resistant insulator, especially for those factories that have to deal with flammable shit
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[X] Uranus Gathering for People of Queer Orientation and Allies
[X] The Revolutionary Federation of American Anarchists
I assume this is what was asked of me in exchange for funds but please correct me if I'm wrong
- excerpt from hemp ideologies by Hemprow Hempson
[X] The Revolutionary Federation of American Anarchists
I assume this is what was asked of me in exchange for funds but please correct me if I'm wrong
People in this thread: hempism? Hempeology? Hempunism?
- excerpt from hemp ideologies by Hemprow Hempson
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You're good.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
On the note of RFAA votes, I think the SPA has gotten enough votes now that it'll be in a good position next turn. So while I wouldn't mind more support for them, I'd overall prefer some more reinforcing the RFAA, since they seem to be the group that's lagging behind compared to the other United Front members (or soon to be members.)
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Stupid ideas be like
So what about a group called hemp farmers united that exists for the sole purpose of hemp lobbying
So what about a group called hemp farmers united that exists for the sole purpose of hemp lobbying
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
That feels a bit more like an action that'd be available to a broader agricultural focused group.
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Or Agri based groups could form a league for it.
always_confused
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[X] The Revolutionary Federation of American Anarchists
[x] The Society of Friends of All Faiths
[x] The Society of Friends of All Faiths
Well. During one of the world wars, civilians were encouraged to grow hemp to aid in the war effort. Of course that didn't last after the war an is not something they'd like to publicize.
It's not really stupid though? Hemp is one of those crops that has stupid amounts of uses that not only can be discovered with pretty much any level of industrialization. Mix in how it's perfect to grow in arid areas and you have a plant that is perfect for growing west of tornado alley...and also in southern california
Solarstream
It's all in the cards
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[X] The Forty Acres Movement
[X] The Friends of the Huddled Masses
[X] The Friends of the Huddled Masses
- Location
- America
Considering it's 95 already, the Boll Weevil should already be munching its way through Texas's cotton though it won't reach Alabama until 1909. After that it'll explode and really start doing damage.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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If only there was a large agrarian-focused movement in the South that could use its resources to buy failed cotton farms, or something!