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THRONE//FRINGE: Normal Human Mech-Girl Quest

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[X] Plan HYDRA//LEGION
-[X] Orby Assignment [1 cycle]
--[X] A4
-[X] Eyeball Assignment [1 cycle]
--[X] V7
-[X] Peeper II Research [1 cycle]
-[X] Conversion: Hex A1 [1 cycle]
-[X] Project HYDRA: Software [3 cycles]
-[X] DRONE/LEGION FABRICATION [4 industry]
-[X] Break the truth to Akshara [1 influence]
-[X] Concierge's Dossier [3 influence]
--[X] DOSSIER: FALL OF FORCE//FRINGE
-[X] Hardened Personality Backups [3 salvage]

First priority is backups- we don't want to lose our precious children (or ourselves/our partner).
Because of that, we won't get additional Industry, which will slow down HYDRA by a turn or more. Because of that, I decided to use all industry for drones this turn- should be enough to fend off one more attack.
Next turn: 3 industry to HYDRA: Hardware (3/10), 1 industry towards remaining drone (8/8 drones); Nanonectar Cloud goes online (assuming we get 1 salvage).
Next next turn: 7 industry to Hydra: Hardware (10/10)

This allows immediate safety through Backups and drones, and safely gets us full HYDRA three turns from now (if we don't get +1 salvage, it'll be 4 turns).
 
I'm going to vote for a Backup plan, though I haven't settled on which one.
[X] Plan HYDRA//BACKUP
[X] Plan HYDRA//WEAPONS
 
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[X] Plan HYDRA//WEAPONS

This plan does all I want, it continues our HYDRA build and increases our infrastructure.
 
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[X] Plan HYDRA//BACKUP

There's no actual benefit to finishing HYDRA software until it's time to actually bring the entire project to a close. Since we can easily one-turn it (more like half-turn), there's correspondingly no reason to keep investing in it until our Hardware comes online when we could instead be investing in things with actual returns on investment in and of themselves.
 
[X] Plan HYDRA//BACKUP

I'm not sure what to do with the fly yet, so I've got no problems putting it off. And this way we get the ability to send our children to certain death, and targets to point them at.
 
[X] Plan MISCELLANEOUS ARACHNID

-[X] Orby Assignment [1 cycle]. Orby is currently located at Hex A5 and was previously exploring the data-crumb trail towards The Last Resort, the Concierge's base of operations and where he is expected to provide you with more data on the nature of the mysterious Hidalgo. Orby's sapience is mostly expressed by moody silence.
--[X] A4. Engage in a deeper investigation of A4's mysterious cross-dimensional pulses. The hex appears to be transforming into something but without more exploration it impossible to say, though at the least it seems potentially aquatic [1 extra cycle required].

-[X] Eyeball Assignment [1 cycle]
--[X] V7. Investigate recently deposited remains of a Catalogue vessel. This could yield more information on what appear to be a civilization of slavers, which would be useful as they are not likely to be friendly.
-[X] Peeper II Research [1 cycle]. Peeper II has been benched for this exploration cycle, but looking into the cause behind her recent potential malfunction could grant data on the intentions and abilities of the Concierge, or whatever entity planted such strange visions in her consciousness.
-[X] Conversion: Hex A1. An abandoned hex once inhabited by refugees from the Zen Submission forcibly relocated, this graveyard could potentially yield cultural data and cycle production once restored, as well as granting more strategic depth to our position. Total progress is 0/10 cycles. [1 Cycle].

-[X] Project HYDRA: Hardware. Preparing your industrial fabricators for reconstructing the weaponry and modelling the ancient and exotic element rich designs on which your deadly arsenal is based on is no easy task and will require significant outlays of your manufacturing capacity to produce. Total progress is 0/10 industry [4 industry].


-[X] Concierge's Dossier. The Concierge dispatches you dossiers sent by stealthy nano-couriers disguised as specks of cosmic dust, sacrificing speed for ability to stay hidden. The current selection has been updated again, and topics have been cycled out and re-named, some of them with presumably more tantalizing names. He is quite a salesman, at least...whatever 'he' is. [3 influence].
--[X] DOSSIER: FALL OF FORCE//FRINGE.

-[X] Play along with Akshara.

-[X] Nanonectar Clouds. Gain additional industry, allowing for rapid repairs and replenishment of drones and reserves.

<cracks knuckles> Alright. Hopefully, this was properly formatted.

A4 is very interesting, I can't imagine how unimaginably vast the entity must be to have the effect it does. Science demands that we investigate! Oh and it's vaguely concerning that an unknown bio-entity is voidforming the Hex for reasons unknown. That's probably a good reason to look into it.

V7 is a win-win, we can learn more about a clear threat and because they're slavers we can eventually devour their civilization without too many moral issues.

Emergency Fortifications seem like a no-brainer, it costs us resources we could spend on other concerns but you gotta spend money to stop the goddamn space conquistador from taking your money. Or something. The remaining industry should be divided between Drones and Hydra, military power is key and both address our current/future concerns. MJ12 has convinced me, the Spaniard must die.
 
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The main thing is to make sure all your votes except for the plan name have a dash (and sub-votes two dashes) so that the tally doesn't recognize them as votes.
 
Consider for a moment that if you folks emphasize building towards full combat operational ability, by trying to push towards project completion ASAP, you can start working towards breaking Don Hidalgo and ripping the valuables out of his corpse to get the new and shiny things you want.

Also a fully armed and operational spider platform is probably a great diplomatic accoutrement.

I'd argue strongly against getting anything but Nanonectar Clouds and that people should start pushing industry into the HYDRA hardware so they can hopefully 2-turn it once Arachne has the dossier.
 
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That... is a very good point.

[X] Plan HYDRA//WEAPONS
-[X] Orby Assignment [1 cycle]
--[X] A7
-[X] Eyeball Assignment [1 cycle]
--[X] V7
-[X] Peeper II Research [1 cycle]
-[X] Conversion: Hex A1 [1 cycle]
-[X] Project HYDRA: Software [3 cycles]
-[X] Project HYDRA: Hardware [4 industry]
-[X] PROJECT HYDRA: A Favour of the Concierge [1 influence]
-[X] Concierge's Dossier [3 influence]
--[X] DOSSIER: FALL OF FORCE//FRINGE
-[X] Nanonectar Clouds [3 salvage]

This is based on the HYDRA//LERNA chassis, and unlike surprisingly every other plan proposed so far gets us Nanonectar, the Favour, and at least 3 Industry into HYDRA Hardware.

This means we can complete our project and markedly upgrade our weaponry next turn, at least assuming that either the Concierge gives us our data before we complete the favour or we can one-turn it, whatever it might be, which is reasonably plausible. Even if it's not the case, then this puts us in a very solid position, needing only to complete said Favour and our industrial commitment (which we can do in one turn if needed) to get our weapons back online.
 
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EternalStruggle said:
This is based on the HYDRA//LERNA chassis, and unlike surprisingly every other plan proposed so far gets us Nanonectar, the Favour, and at least 3 Industry into HYDRA Hardware.

This means we can complete our project and markedly upgrade our weaponry next turn, at least assuming that either the Concierge gives us our data before we complete the favour or we can one-turn it, whatever it might be, which is reasonably plausible. Even if it's not the case, then this puts us in a very solid position, needing only to complete said Favour and our industrial commitment (which we can do in one turn if needed) to get our weapons back online.
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Then again, we don't know what they'll ask for it and the description does not imply good things. It's a very real risk.

I agree that Nanoncetar and minimum 3 industry into HYRDRA is wise but we have less to lose by trying to get a new cultist-ally. Playing along is both less risky then telling the truth and significantly safer then risking the Concierge.
 
Fourthspartan56 said:
Then again, we don't know what they'll ask for it and the description does not imply good things. It's a very real risk.
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So it is, but there's no alternative in sight, meaning we'll almost certainly have to do it sooner or later. Later just means we won't have our Big Honking Space Guns as fast.
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I agree that Nanoncetar and minimum 3 industry into HYRDRA is wise but we have less to lose by trying to get a new cultist-ally. Playing along is both less risky then telling the truth and significantly safer then risking the Concierge.
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We have no reason to assume she can help us with the Serial Number. She's a literal primitive. We should get to her for her own reasons in due time, but it's not the same.
 
Beware the views of Ishtar and others who would speak of Akshara simply as a 'primitive' (indeed, beware the views of most people who would describe others as a primitive). Ishtar is both shaken and from a different era, running on low information that she thinks is right because it confirms her own despair. Akshara at least has an advanced body that used exotic materials, and her mech-machine does have exotic technologies, and yet she wasn't using them when she was caught inside your trap.

Akshara's dialogues contains many hints as to what she really is, but none of them will make as much sense unless you talk more to her.

That being said, the best way to get the serial number and other information is from the option that gets you that information :V
 
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All the backups in the world aren't going to help Arachne if she can't actually rebuild her hardware, for those people voting backups.

If she doesn't want to lose her drones she can just avoid exposing them to risk - but the earlier she gets Nanonectar Clouds the faster they pay for themselves and the faster she can make it less likely that she'll lose her main chassis, which is by far the most important and valuable asset she has.

This is why I recommend maxing all industry into HYDRA and also getting Nanonectar Clouds.

EternalStruggle said:
So it is, but there's no alternative in sight, meaning we'll almost certainly have to do it sooner or later. Later just means we won't have our Big Honking Space Guns as fast.
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There is an alternative...

Ishtar has all those missing parts we could go and look for.

Of course this would require a very long distance journey to AXIOM space searching for her Elite citadel to make use of. Given her history it'll likely have the databusses and drivers to work with FORCE hardware. Who knows, it might also have emergency deification capacity and we can also make use of our new guest!

But this is pretty much guaranteed to take longer and be far more risky than any attempt to listen to the Concierge.
 
Cetashwayo said:
Beware the views of Ishtar and others who would speak of Akshara simply as a 'primitive' (indeed, beware the views of most people who would describe others as a primitive). Ishtar is both shaken and from a different era, running on low information that she thinks is right because it confirms her own despair. Akshara at least has an advanced body that used exotic materials, and her mech-machine does have exotic technologies, and yet she wasn't using them when she was caught inside your trap.

Akshara's dialogues contains many hints as to what she really is, but none of them will make as much sense unless you talk more to her.
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The problem is primarily that we cannot from the available evidence expect Akshara to know jack shit useful about the shit relevant to this particular thing. She's most likely going to primarily be a source of information about current events and Sector politics, if we can coax it out of her. Which, while useful, is not what we're after here.
MJ12 Commando said:
There is an alternative...

Ishtar has all those missing parts we could go and look for.

Of course this would require a very long distance journey to AXIOM space searching for her Elite citadel to make use of. Given her history it'll likely have the databusses and drivers to work with FORCE hardware. Who knows, it might also have emergency deification capacity and we can also make use of our new guest!

But this is pretty much guaranteed to take longer and be far more risky than any attempt to listen to the Concierge.
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On top of time and risk, we don't even know where to look for it beyond a vague region of space, as the above helpful diagram shows. Which is not ideal when Don Hidalgo is being a pain in the ass right now.
 
EternalStruggle said:
The problem is primarily that we cannot from the available evidence expect Akshara to know jack shit useful about the shit relevant to this particular thing. She's most likely going to primarily be a source of information about current events and Sector politics, if we can coax it out of her. Which, while useful, is not what we're after here.
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Oh absolutely. As I said in the edit, the best way to get serial information is to choose the option that is most likely to get you serial information :V

I just wanted to counter an impression in-thread that the assumptions of certain characters should be taken verbatim by the players. Everyone is an unreliable narrator.
 
EternalStruggle said:
The problem is primarily that we cannot from the available evidence expect Akshara to know jack shit useful about the shit relevant to this particular thing. She's most likely going to primarily be a source of information about current events and Sector politics, if we can coax it out of her. Which, while useful, is not what we're after here.
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Is it not what we're after? After all, we want to focus on HYDRA so we can take down our enemies. If she has useful information then that could very well help with that. Warfare isn't just about weapons, intelligence wins wars.

Also narratively I am very interested in hearing what she has to say.
 
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EternalStruggle said:
On top of time and risk, we don't even know where to look for it beyond a vague region of space, as the above helpful diagram shows. Which is not ideal when Don Hidalgo is being a pain in the ass right now.
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Don Hidalgo is also directly between us and where the AXIOM corporation used to be, and is unlikely to just let us go by on our quest to get enough weapons to kill him.
 
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Hmmm. The point about getting more industry online to complete HYDRA in hopefully two turns is superior to my arguments. Abandoning my plan, if people still want to vote for it the go ahead.

[X] Plan HYDRA//WEAPONS
 
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