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[X] Plan Not Quite ALL the Way
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Glad to see the Thread open again... And now back to the vote I was writing just when the thread closed.
[X] Plan NUTS to Quest Masochism
I know this is unlikely to win, but really guys we don´t need to go ALL IN with this, let´s, for the first time on the quest go for two average options that will be more than enough to appease everyone here and move on...
[X] Plan NUTS to Quest Masochism
I know this is unlikely to win, but really guys we don´t need to go ALL IN with this, let´s, for the first time on the quest go for two average options that will be more than enough to appease everyone here and move on...
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- Plan: All In, As Usual has us give all our Greatships to the Cult and do the most extreme Keelhauling option and the most dangerous. (Triton's Fury)
- Plan Not Quite ALL the Way has us give three of our Greatships and do a lesser Keelhauling option, but not as dangerous. (Marvelous Maisel)
- Plan Not all the Great Ships has us give two of our Greatships and do the most extreme Keelhauling option and the most dangerous. (Triton's Fury)
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Hopefully we can all be civil going forward, for our own sakes if nothing else.
Changing my vote to all in since I want the kneelhauling with Triton's Fury since the weight of doing option on temple-ship of Manann is important I think.
[X] Plan: All In, As Usual
No one can doubt Freddy nor backtalk against the Matriarch if Freddy does that.
Changing my vote to all in since I want the kneelhauling with Triton's Fury since the weight of doing option on temple-ship of Manann is important I think.
[X] Plan: All In, As Usual
No one can doubt Freddy nor backtalk against the Matriarch if Freddy does that.
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I'm not going all in either, but I think we can afford a bit more. I want to go as far as possible, without getting too risky. Not because I want to make them happy, but because I want a firmer potential ally against Rutger and a greater chance of the boon of Manaan.
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I could be convinced to give up to 3 Greatships, but I don´t really want to go for anything greater than the wolfship for the kneelhauling though.
I know it is not a death sentence like it was IRL, but, even then, it is still difficult for me to subject Freddy to any more of what I can consider strictly necessary to appease the mob.
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[] Plan NUTS to Quest Masochism
[X] Plan Not Quite ALL the Way
Approval voting is OK, right? I just want to limit risk to Frederick; I don't mind writing off more battleships but I don't want to write off Freddy or gamble with him over this.
EDIT: Approval voting is not okay, tactical voting ahoy!
[X] Plan Not Quite ALL the Way
Approval voting is OK, right? I just want to limit risk to Frederick; I don't mind writing off more battleships but I don't want to write off Freddy or gamble with him over this.
EDIT: Approval voting is not okay, tactical voting ahoy!
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I admit it's a little strange to see people dive into all in like it's somehow the secret best ending.
It's entirely possible that the only thing we get from this is trauma, or that we find out that giving all of our best ships away will have serious consequences that we might not like, you know? It's called a sacrifice for a reason. Or at least, please don't think of Freddy's health as something you can trade in for shinies.
It's entirely possible that the only thing we get from this is trauma, or that we find out that giving all of our best ships away will have serious consequences that we might not like, you know? It's called a sacrifice for a reason. Or at least, please don't think of Freddy's health as something you can trade in for shinies.
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It is not, sorry.
[X] Plan Not Quite ALL the Way
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[X] Plan: All In, As Usual
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[X] Plan Not all the Great Ships
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Sorry no, Torroar has a strict no approval voting rule on his quests.
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[X] Plan NUTS to Quest Masochism
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I think it is an unfortunate consequence of that happened with the interrogation by the witchhunters...I admit it's a little strange to see people dive into all in like it's somehow the secret best ending.
It's entirely possible that the only thing we get from this is trauma, or that we find out that giving all of our best ships away will have serious consequences that we might not like, you know? It's called a sacrifice for a reason, please don't think of Freddy's health as something you can trade in for shinies.
It went so well that now people believe we can get similar results if we go All In...
I didn't think it was possible to reach the same level of mental exhaustion that Karak Ungor managed to engender in me over the course of two IRL years in such a short amount of time. Or perhaps it wasn't so short, given all of 2020, and the difficulties and issues IRL therein for my family, my friends, and myself. Regardless, my blowing up yesterday was a mistake, and not one I should have made. I shouldn't have done it, and I regret that. I can't change the past, however, and I just want to move on. There won't be, hopefully, and threadbans or suspensions or anything like that, at least that's what I've advocated for.
Just vote. I don't care if someone votes a way you don't like, don't post about it or @ them. Just post your vote, and let that be it for the day. I don't really care about reading anything else than just the votes so I can close the vote tonight, write the update, and move on. This was supposed to be an interaction with a fish-out-of-water head of a Cult, compared to the entrenched and expected Ar-Ulric and Grand Theogonist. A deal with the grim dark nature of the world, where people make decisions that are right but are still dark and unfortunate. Something that could not simply be thrown money at, or bashed at, something to try and play politics and deal in-depth with religion, rather than just with building temples, in a Cult that is notoriously aloof and independent. With physical cost, yes, through the keelhauling if chosen, but also ways of dealing in a World that, contrary to a good amount of evidence and luck that the player faction has maintained, sometimes it's about making the best of a bad situation.
I don't care if you don't like Manann or the Cult or whatever.
Frederick cares a lot more about his people than you dislike Manann or his Cult. He has fought for them, and is willing, just about every season of every year, to die for them if necessary against the myriad threats that come after them. He has been characterized, repeatedly, by votes, to care not how humiliating things are or how painful things might be, if it can resolve situations favorably to his people. Zhufbar and the Engineers is a good example of this. That wasn't fatal, or in danger of being fatal, yes, so there is a difference. But the attitude behind those decisions, for Frederick at least, is not. The cost, yes, is in ships and possibly blood. The benefit, however, is to go towards his people. That is how Frederick has been built up, not just by my writing him for the past six years, but how the players have voted for him. In Karak Ungor, he shoved others onto a transport first despite knowing he could be overwhelmed in moments once they'd gone waiting for the next transport. In the Vampire War, he stayed behind to give the Emperor and others time against Zacharias, a fight he could not possibly be certain he would win. In the Battle of Three Armies, he leapt upon and dealt the killing blow to the Bloodthirster, knowing that the violence of its death could be his own. In the Nordland Campaign, he did the same against Gruber, carving his way into the Daemon Prince and was blown into a small coma from the backlash. He self sacrifices even when it might not be entirely necessary, but when it certainly might bring things to a more beneficial conclusion for those he cares about, either through speed or thoroughness. Even when his survival is not only uncertain, but unlikely. Who boldly accepted the torturous investigations of the Cult of Sigmar, and though he suffered nightmares later on, still accepts it to this day, and supports the Cult of Sigmar. That last part with the fire was not part of the deal and was Jung's thing, but the point is that - this is the world of Mallus. The one he lives in. Not Earth. This is the Grim Darkness of Warhammer, and though certainly in a number of aspects it's sometimes more Noble Bright, with people like Magnus the Pious, just...oh I suppose it doesn't really matter right now.
Because that's who you have built with me, over the past six years. Someone who, often, takes the hits to his body so that others might not. So that others might not suffer.
But I guess somewhere along the way, that characterization might have gotten muddled. Or, people just cared enough about the character we've made that they just don't want to see him suffer needlessly...while possibly forgetting that to Frederick, it isn't needlessly at all. Not stupidly, he isn't going to be slitting his throat to please any of the Cults, or emptying his entire treasury, or anything ridiculous like that. In fact, as I stated so many times over, Maghda is pretty obviously - I thought - trying to not infringe on his treasury or force him into a death sentence. He is self-sacrificing to an extent, but he isn't an absolute idiot about it. He has the Light of Summer, Adira, and other things as well. But whatever, I guess.
At the moment, I don't want to discuss it.
Just vote. If you need clarification on a vote, ask, and I'm sure someone will answer. But overall, just vote and let that be it. For today, at least.
Just vote. I don't care if someone votes a way you don't like, don't post about it or @ them. Just post your vote, and let that be it for the day. I don't really care about reading anything else than just the votes so I can close the vote tonight, write the update, and move on. This was supposed to be an interaction with a fish-out-of-water head of a Cult, compared to the entrenched and expected Ar-Ulric and Grand Theogonist. A deal with the grim dark nature of the world, where people make decisions that are right but are still dark and unfortunate. Something that could not simply be thrown money at, or bashed at, something to try and play politics and deal in-depth with religion, rather than just with building temples, in a Cult that is notoriously aloof and independent. With physical cost, yes, through the keelhauling if chosen, but also ways of dealing in a World that, contrary to a good amount of evidence and luck that the player faction has maintained, sometimes it's about making the best of a bad situation.
I don't care if you don't like Manann or the Cult or whatever.
Frederick cares a lot more about his people than you dislike Manann or his Cult. He has fought for them, and is willing, just about every season of every year, to die for them if necessary against the myriad threats that come after them. He has been characterized, repeatedly, by votes, to care not how humiliating things are or how painful things might be, if it can resolve situations favorably to his people. Zhufbar and the Engineers is a good example of this. That wasn't fatal, or in danger of being fatal, yes, so there is a difference. But the attitude behind those decisions, for Frederick at least, is not. The cost, yes, is in ships and possibly blood. The benefit, however, is to go towards his people. That is how Frederick has been built up, not just by my writing him for the past six years, but how the players have voted for him. In Karak Ungor, he shoved others onto a transport first despite knowing he could be overwhelmed in moments once they'd gone waiting for the next transport. In the Vampire War, he stayed behind to give the Emperor and others time against Zacharias, a fight he could not possibly be certain he would win. In the Battle of Three Armies, he leapt upon and dealt the killing blow to the Bloodthirster, knowing that the violence of its death could be his own. In the Nordland Campaign, he did the same against Gruber, carving his way into the Daemon Prince and was blown into a small coma from the backlash. He self sacrifices even when it might not be entirely necessary, but when it certainly might bring things to a more beneficial conclusion for those he cares about, either through speed or thoroughness. Even when his survival is not only uncertain, but unlikely. Who boldly accepted the torturous investigations of the Cult of Sigmar, and though he suffered nightmares later on, still accepts it to this day, and supports the Cult of Sigmar. That last part with the fire was not part of the deal and was Jung's thing, but the point is that - this is the world of Mallus. The one he lives in. Not Earth. This is the Grim Darkness of Warhammer, and though certainly in a number of aspects it's sometimes more Noble Bright, with people like Magnus the Pious, just...oh I suppose it doesn't really matter right now.
Because that's who you have built with me, over the past six years. Someone who, often, takes the hits to his body so that others might not. So that others might not suffer.
But I guess somewhere along the way, that characterization might have gotten muddled. Or, people just cared enough about the character we've made that they just don't want to see him suffer needlessly...while possibly forgetting that to Frederick, it isn't needlessly at all. Not stupidly, he isn't going to be slitting his throat to please any of the Cults, or emptying his entire treasury, or anything ridiculous like that. In fact, as I stated so many times over, Maghda is pretty obviously - I thought - trying to not infringe on his treasury or force him into a death sentence. He is self-sacrificing to an extent, but he isn't an absolute idiot about it. He has the Light of Summer, Adira, and other things as well. But whatever, I guess.
At the moment, I don't want to discuss it.
Just vote. If you need clarification on a vote, ask, and I'm sure someone will answer. But overall, just vote and let that be it. For today, at least.
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