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Hmm. 1 in 3 chance to penetrate but excellent performance, or always penetrates, good performance and comically large? Quite the choice.

I think the Kondor is objectively better, but the low penetration chance probably makes semiautomatic a lot more of a nice-to-have, maybe complicating things. On the other hand, I kind of want to see what people will try to give us with the 25mm, just to see what they come up with. I almost wish both could go forward.

[X]14.5x114 Kondor
 
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[X]14.5x114 Kondor It is a good anti tank round for ww1. Late war heavy armor can possibly be troublesome, but that would be less of the infantry's job, but rather a job for those lazy bastards in the artillery.
 
[X]14.5x114 Kondor

If we want people to carry this, we don't want to give them a full-fledged cannon, no matter how capable it is.
 
[X]14.5x114 Kondor

Three guesses which cartridge needs a Wellington screw breech to fire, I dare ya.
 
20mm probably needed a bit more in the way of powder load(and thus case length) to be competitive. Oh well.

[X]14.5x114 Kondor
 
[X]14.5x114 Kondor

Makes sense to me. If we have enough rifles distributed (or a rifle with sufficient rate of fire) the one-in-three chance of penetration shouldn't be a problem.
 
To prevent the QM from starting shit due to lack of discussion, what would we want to see from an anti-tank weapon that uses the Kondor round?
 
Probably try to keep the weapon under 30 kg at most, with a barrel no longer than the 1400mm test length.

I don't know about the action enough to comment.
 
Reasonably fast firing. There's a low enough penetration chance that being able to to fire a couple more shots right away is a big deal. I'd love to see semi-auto, but that might be too much to reasonably ask.

Light enough to be carried rather than towed.

A simple and robust action. This isn't the sort of round that will be kind to little fiddly bits.

Good ergonomics for prone firing and, ideally, loading.

All the normal avoiding-blunders things: finishes and materials that are easily maintained under field conditions, No special tools for basic disassembly. Optics mounted to a place where it won't get jarred more than necessary and doesn't have to be adjusted after loading, clearing jams or routine maintenance, etc.
 
Not so expensive or intensive to manufacture that we can't afford to give our troops enough of them to make an actual difference.
 
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