Not enough time. We cannot wait more than two weeks, that's barely enough time for the trip there and back.
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- Thread starter Packrat
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Not enough time. We cannot wait more than two weeks, that's barely enough time for the trip there and back.
It will take months for them to get transferred to us. We are moving in a week or two.
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Added your suggestion to the plan in regards to personnel transfer.
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[X] Fate Wants To Make Us Poor
[X] Wait A Week. If you wait a week, you will be able to expedite repairs on your ships and bring into service one or more of the captured vessels finishing refit above Ilam.
[X] Battlecruiser +2 Strike Cruisers (105 Political Capital, +5 sector budget)
[X] Reduce crew from the Endeavor and transfer to the Sword of Democracy. Transfer two levels of Crew and Marines.
[X] Make Sones captain of the Endeavor and Phardson the XO because the Peregrin is at 50% Readiness.
[X] Transfer the entire officer, crew and marine complement of the Hawk and Harpy to the Strike Cruisers.
[X] Strip Sector Command of crew and marines for the Sword.
[X] Transfer the crew and marines of the Peregrine to the Endeavor.
[X] Transfer the remaining marines off the Peregrine, the marines of the Cirrus and Whippet to the Strike Cruiser to give them a full complement of marines.
[X] Commit to selling the Hawk and Harpy for full PC return as soon as we're able to for 70 PC. Mothball them if we fail to sell them before the start of the next strategic turn when we'd have to pay for their upkeep.
[X] Make Wisanch XO of the Sword of Democracy. Make Adald and Ranca Commanders of the Sword of Democracy. Transfer the Crew and Marines of the Whippet to wherever they will be best placed.
[X] Spend 110 Political Capital on Sector Budget. Do this first.
[X] Spend 8 Wealth on the Sword by one level.
[X] Spend 6 Wealth on the Strike Cruisers to increase their crew level by one.
[X] Do not Request a Share.
[X] Chuang Mu
14 Wealth, 215 Political Capital. This update is trying to squeeze money and capital out of us and we have to be aware of that. Attacking Chuang Mu will fix that. The 110 PC is needed to eliminate our sector budget deficit with the addition of a battlecruiser. We're close to expending all of our PC but we"ll only have a 0.3 deficit. With the light cruisers sold and PC gains we"ll be able to fully eliminate it and bring out PC back up. We"ll do that by getting rid of two LCs and finishing Chuang Mu. 6 more Wealth is spent to prevent crew degradation for our new strike cruisers so they stay at Mediocre and Regular.
[X] Wait A Week. If you wait a week, you will be able to expedite repairs on your ships and bring into service one or more of the captured vessels finishing refit above Ilam.
[X] Battlecruiser +2 Strike Cruisers (105 Political Capital, +5 sector budget)
[X] Reduce crew from the Endeavor and transfer to the Sword of Democracy. Transfer two levels of Crew and Marines.
[X] Make Sones captain of the Endeavor and Phardson the XO because the Peregrin is at 50% Readiness.
[X] Transfer the entire officer, crew and marine complement of the Hawk and Harpy to the Strike Cruisers.
[X] Strip Sector Command of crew and marines for the Sword.
[X] Transfer the crew and marines of the Peregrine to the Endeavor.
[X] Transfer the remaining marines off the Peregrine, the marines of the Cirrus and Whippet to the Strike Cruiser to give them a full complement of marines.
[X] Commit to selling the Hawk and Harpy for full PC return as soon as we're able to for 70 PC. Mothball them if we fail to sell them before the start of the next strategic turn when we'd have to pay for their upkeep.
[X] Make Wisanch XO of the Sword of Democracy. Make Adald and Ranca Commanders of the Sword of Democracy. Transfer the Crew and Marines of the Whippet to wherever they will be best placed.
[X] Spend 110 Political Capital on Sector Budget. Do this first.
[X] Spend 8 Wealth on the Sword by one level.
[X] Spend 6 Wealth on the Strike Cruisers to increase their crew level by one.
[X] Do not Request a Share.
[X] Chuang Mu
14 Wealth, 215 Political Capital. This update is trying to squeeze money and capital out of us and we have to be aware of that. Attacking Chuang Mu will fix that. The 110 PC is needed to eliminate our sector budget deficit with the addition of a battlecruiser. We're close to expending all of our PC but we"ll only have a 0.3 deficit. With the light cruisers sold and PC gains we"ll be able to fully eliminate it and bring out PC back up. We"ll do that by getting rid of two LCs and finishing Chuang Mu. 6 more Wealth is spent to prevent crew degradation for our new strike cruisers so they stay at Mediocre and Regular.
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I can understand why people don't want to give our XO a ship but this is a situation where we can give him a relatively safe command and still have some control over him. If this isn't the time for him to step up and prove himself, when will it be? It's dramatically appropriate!
Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
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We don't want the share yet, that's something I'm absolutely set on holding to. We also are not spending 120 PC on it when we have far more important expenditures to make and really do not want to drop our PC below 100. We can take a small hit, as our attack should make it back, but not a major one. We also should not split our forces for this. A BC, four HCs and escorts will be enough to shatter the Chaung Mu defence force and their main fleet if they come after us. I'm tempted to spring for the Strike Cruisers, as they're really strong ships due to their Speed and marine compliments, but I'm not sure that's sustainable even if we hit Chuang Mu perfectly. I'm honestly considering, if we can reduce their defences quickly without any vast loss of readiness, to use the system as a trap for their main fleet that will no doubt redline it for home the moment they hear what we're up to. But that's for later.
For now...welp, I was ninja'd.
[X] Gunman
We don't want to get distracted by the Strike Cruisers, not when with a BC I'd expect us to be able to dance with at least two of their battleships and come out on top. We also have four HCs, three of which have the same Firepower as a Battleship. Those will be more than capable of wiping any screening element from the skies, and that's without even considering the two Lights we can bring in at 65% readiness.
@Packrat would it be possible to burn Wealth to acquire Marines for our ships?
For now...welp, I was ninja'd.
[X] Gunman
We don't want to get distracted by the Strike Cruisers, not when with a BC I'd expect us to be able to dance with at least two of their battleships and come out on top. We also have four HCs, three of which have the same Firepower as a Battleship. Those will be more than capable of wiping any screening element from the skies, and that's without even considering the two Lights we can bring in at 65% readiness.
@Packrat would it be possible to burn Wealth to acquire Marines for our ships?
Guys, why not we don't immediately send of Viscountess to raid while spending 1 or even 2 weeks to prepare our forces? She has Strategy 15 to plan her run on the system, and good tactics.
She would certainly survive until we arrive, and possibly deal quite a bit of damage to the locals.
Our flotilla would still be faster than theirs - BBs are not fast - and we would finish our preparations around the time commander over Chuang Mu has to decide whether he moves or not.
She would certainly survive until we arrive, and possibly deal quite a bit of damage to the locals.
Our flotilla would still be faster than theirs - BBs are not fast - and we would finish our preparations around the time commander over Chuang Mu has to decide whether he moves or not.
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Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
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Because if she goes and gets lucky, she gets all the prize. If she goes and gets savaged, we lose the Heavy Cruiser core we need to break the Chuang Mu capital fleet that will no doubt burn for home at max the moment the message that we're sieging their homeworld comes through.
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Also it will make the Governor happy, giving us a lot of political cover.
I am confused why all the other plans are only taking the Battlecrusier and not the lesser cruisers. We need as many ships we can in case the Capital ships return. Multi-attack bonus for the win.
They might get caught out or trapped. There is no FTL communication. Hence why I have cutters scouting the enemy fleet to see what they do in Plan: Prepared.
@Packrat this game is starting to move too fast. For the next update can you add a 4 hour moratorium on voting so nobody feels the need to rush out a plan because of how fast the quest is moving and increased bandwagon effect?
Because we"ll be most effective working together. The combined firepower will make a difference whether we go to Chuang Mu or Imhotep.
I asked Packrat before about giving him command of the Endeavor and he shot it down as it being too nepotistic because he is a young junior officer recently promoted to commander.
Because we"ll be most effective working together. The combined firepower will make a difference whether we go to Chuang Mu or Imhotep.
I asked Packrat before about giving him command of the Endeavor and he shot it down as it being too nepotistic because he is a young junior officer recently promoted to commander.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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[X] Fate Wants To Make Us Poor
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
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This is not a safe command lol. If he gets into a fight with a BB while he's in a HC he's gonna get absolutely pasted, maybe dead.
They have -3 crews. Aka they basically have no firepower bonus and they have no marines. They're liable to go up in flames in a serious fight. We already have the ships to get a multi-attack bonus anyway.
Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
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We don't need them. Four heavies, two lights, whatever other chaff we're taking and a BC is more than enough to match up against the Chuang Mu battleship force. They've got three battleships, but only four LCs and an attack skiff. If they engage, we go for their support and then bleed the battleships once its gone. They need their light cruisers to hold us still, and our core force will eviscerate them. After that, it's all over but for the screaming.
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@Gunman I am going to have to I think, things have rather exploded in activity over the last couple of updates.
Also you could put your XO in command of a heavy cruiser, it would not cost you political capital, but it would annoy your two captain ranked light cruiser captains along with some of your commanders and hurt their Loyalty.
Also you could put your XO in command of a heavy cruiser, it would not cost you political capital, but it would annoy your two captain ranked light cruiser captains along with some of your commanders and hurt their Loyalty.
She would be dealing with just the garrison for the first two weeks, and we would arrive around the same time the rogue fleet would, if not earlier.
She is capable enough to not get pasted by some skiffs, a corvette and a monitor, what with her Tactics 16 and XO with strategy 14.
Also, if we prepare for a week or two without exerting pressure, basically giving locals on Imhotep a ~month to get provisional government and stir shit up, like asking for NASP membership... I would prefer to not give them enough time to do so.
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Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
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The real reason is because it gets her the glory instead of us. Remember that the point of hitting Chaung Mu isn't just to make them break off from Imhotep, it's to net us a boatload of Wealth and PC. We can't do that if she gets first blood in this strike.
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
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Again more ships=more loot. This is going to be a major battle. Taking anything less than the maximum possible strength is asking for trouble. Afterwards we can sell off those light cruisers for PC/Wealth so we don't have to maintain them.
Good information. I wouldn't worry too much about this. Loyalty is already fairly high and everyone will be making bank off this attack. Better to get the political cover of appointing the governor's nephew to a command.
She gets her glory, she goes back to New Atlanta and gets assigned as our replacement in this sector in a year or two. She doesn't?
She stirs shit up until she gets her glory or dies trying.
Which and where?
@Packrat what are our realistic odds of fighting 3 BBs if we take the battlecruiser? Or raiding Chuang Mu? What kind of PC and W can we expect from either choice?
I would when we're dipping below 100 PC and lower from necessity. One of them has Loyalty 10 and another has Loyalty 11.
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Your plan is the one wasting PC on the Sector Budget. Either things heat up and we keep making bank, or things cool down and we can sell off some ships to other sectors for PC. Also when our attack is successful we will make bank and loyalty like we just did in the last update. Another reason to go all in with all the ships we can get. Losing this will be a major loss, we can't afford to lose the upcoming battle no matter what since so much is riding on it.
Your odds really depend on what ships you activate but a battlecruiser and four heavy cruisers can absolutely melt through Chuang Mu's defenses under your command, how long would it take? It would depend on the rolls, how many light vessels you bring to support, etc, but certainly before battleships could get there from Imhotep even with attack skiffs being used by them as couriers.
Looting the planet would take a long time though, depending on how brutal you are willing to be, how much you are willing to expose your marines, and rolls.
Fighting three battleships and four light cruisers is likely to be brutal though. I would be very surprised if you did it without losing ships, though unless they luck out and have really good tactical commanders on those battleships you in a BC will be horrifyingly dangerous and some of your better officers will be able to at least take a long time to die in heavy cruisers.
Looting the planet would take a long time though, depending on how brutal you are willing to be, how much you are willing to expose your marines, and rolls.
Fighting three battleships and four light cruisers is likely to be brutal though. I would be very surprised if you did it without losing ships, though unless they luck out and have really good tactical commanders on those battleships you in a BC will be horrifyingly dangerous and some of your better officers will be able to at least take a long time to die in heavy cruisers.
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Snowfire
Polyglot of Chimera
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Two ships at -3 crew rating is just asking for them to die to battleships. The only reason to take the Sword is because we can strip ships to make her capable without reducing their effectiveness too far. We can't do that with a bunch of terribly crewed vessels weighing us down.
Yeah...no. Not even close. If she gets glory, she'll keep on pushing for more. We need her controlled and in a position where she can understand that any glory she gets comes on our terms. We were lucky with the dip success we got, now we need to make it work.