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Wormverse ideas, recs, and fic discussion thread 1

If gaining Eidolon's power-set includes the ability to shift dimensions (as seen when he & Fairy Queen fight Scion) then I bet a bunch of people are also going to leave Earth Bet for worlds that don't have so many equally powerful competition.

Also, Contessa would keep faaaaaaaaar away because it's a whole world full of blind spots.

Although if they all share one fuel tank for their powers then it'd probably run out pretty fast.


...And now at the thought of the Eidoclones sharing powers, I wonder if they can have any 3 powers but each person can only access a power that isn't being used by anyone else, so people need to wait for a certain desirable power to be freed up and hope they can mentally grab it fast enough.

Which reminds me of a Nanoha of 2814 character who'd actually make an interesting Eidolon counterpart in terms of powers, where she can borrow the powers of anyone else (usually with their permission) but doing so de-powers them while she's using it, so she needs to make mid-battle phone calls to check "are you free to be de-powered right now" when she knows a power she needs.
 
IIRC, the "twenty Endbringers" comes from a brief Thinker PoV that Contessa dreamed when she Triggered where Thinker and Warrior were masquerading as super-parahumans while guiding humanity in fighting a total of 20 monsters the same way Loner made his host species fight against monsters rather than each other to gain Data.

However, I don't think Eden actually constructed those when she crashed.

I think what happened with Eidolon's power was that he wanted "worthy opponents" or a challenge to prove himself the strongest, and thus much like Jack Slash's Shard could meta-game what other shards knew, Eidolon's High Priest Shard sent a request/order to the semi-inactive pool of resources to construct Behemoth and then the other Endbringers, possibly using whatever notes and plans Thinker had in the works before she crashed.

AFAIK Khonsu didn't exist prior to Behemoth being destroyed by Scion because Khonsu was constructed with the ability to teleport specifically because Eidolon was subconsciously fuming that Scion killed an Endbringer when he couldn't and feeling inferior, so his Shard basically said "make sure the next one can escape Scion so that doesn't happen again".
 
SinisterPorpoise said:
IIRC Eidolon's power doesn't make Endbringers, it's just that one of his powers acted as the "ignition key" that activated a pre-existing system that the Entities would have been using anyway.
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The mechanism is never actually explained. We see Endbringers, we see "superweapons," Scion identifies Eidolon as being responsible for the Endbringers.

My interpretation of the evidence is that Eidolon created the Endbringers, mostly because the Endbringers don't quite fit what we see of the "superweapons". They're too unrestrained, and the first couple are too raw. Also, I question whether the concept of a pre-existing "Endbringer dimension" or whatever where Endbringers can be summoned from makes any sense, especially given the dimension-fuckery of Endbringer cores, and also since the Endbringers and especially superweapons feel very...humanity-specific, considering the exceedingly inhuman glimpses we see of aliens in prior cycles.

Now, did Eidolon create the Endbringers with "a pre-existing system that the Entities would have been using anyway"? Yeah. He almost certainly used the same power Eden planned to make "superweapons" with. But he made them, he didn't summon them, and the same would presumably be true of this AU.
 
If Emma was a Marine in the One Piece world but still had her cowardly personality what position would work best for her?
 
Recruit or Chore Girl. She doesn't have the skills necessary to rise higher in the ranks.
Unless you add those skills to her, in which case do whatever you want.
 
brer rabbit said:
If Emma was a Marine in the One Piece world but still had her cowardly personality what position would work best for her?
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If Nezumi can be incredibly corrupt and criminal and still rise to his rank, then Emma can probably manage to be a Petty Officer or something with no real skills provided she's good at putting spin on things, reporting on fellow Marines, and generally sucking up.
 
I should probably clarify that one of the skills I think Emma lacks is "connections within the Marines," which I'm pretty sure are a pretty significant part of why Nezumi and his ilk reached the level they did. If brown-nosing and a lack of personal decency were enough to let someone rise in the Marines, they would have more petty officers than they knew what to do with.
 
brer rabbit said:
Yeah I'm thinking something like a general inspector in the Grand Line though Emma actually does want to do good (backstory related reasons) it's just that she would rather have other people fight for her than risk her own life.
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That does sound like good nuance, but what on god's green earth could make Emma want to do good? Did she never go through a traumatic experience? (Or was she just not deluded into believing in some predator vs prey philosophy?)
 
I struggle to imagine what Emma would be in the One Piece universe. Her very specific bully MO doesn't really work outside a scholastic environment, and One Piece doesn't have many schools.

Take away that, and she's defined primarily by her relationships to Sophia and Taylor, who would also need to change in the transition to One Piece's social paradigms. Is Shadow Stalker a bounty hunter who wound up pressed into Marine service? Did Taylor join a pirate crew to escape her bullies? How do the three of them know each other?
 
Ultimate said:
That does sound like good nuance, but what on god's green earth could make Emma want to do good? Did she never go through a traumatic experience?
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Oh she did went through a traumatic event it's just that it wasn't Sophia that later gave her a messed up philosophy but instead a Marine that gave her a different philosophy.
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I struggle to imagine what Emma would be in the One Piece universe and she's defined primarily by her relationships to Sophia and Taylor,
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Emma never met Sophia in the One Piece world but did had a relationship with Taylor and it is the exact reason why Emma joined the Marines, you know how characters tend to have tragic backstories...
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Granted, there could easily be several large islands/kingdoms with established school systems, and we just never see them due to not being "Shonen" enough to feature in the series.
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We do actually see some kids in school learning history in Wano.
 
A Bit Tea'd Off

Grind, Grind, Pour, Serve.

Grind, Grind, Pour, Serve.

Grind, Grind, Pour, Serve.

There was something refreshing in the simplicity of it. Also, I was making money off it. But back to the less practical aspects - I enjoyed making tea merely for the act of it. I enjoyed serving tea both because I enjoyed it, and because my customers shared in my enjoyment of it.

There were no worries involved. No bullies trying to make my life a living hell, no Principals openly bragging that "freaks" like me would never be allowed a moment of joy at her school - which, honestly, would hit harder if Blackwell's definition of "freaks" didn't include students taller than average, students shorter than average, students smarter than average, students dumber than average, students better at sports than average, students worse at sports than average, students darker skinned than average, students lighter skinned than average, students in gangs, students with clean criminal records…

Average, of course, was defined as being Minako Blackwell.

In other words, I joined 95 or so percent of Winslow in being the 'nails' she gave speeches over the intercom about how we'd be hammered down.

"Thank You for coming," I gave a short bow and handed a receipt to the older couple in matching Brockton Bees jerseys.

The Emo Emu Teahouse (previously a short-live Australian-themed Vegan Restaurant called the Green Emu. I saved money by keeping part of the sign) was my own personal sanctuary. And the only one remaining for many of the Bay's outcasts - Goths, Nerds, Dorks, Loners, Band Kids, Drama Club Members, Mathletes, and the generally Bespectacled ever since Uber & Leet burned down The Heroes Of Old Comics and Games because they wouldn't stock cartoon Japanese porn.

Sure, I had to compromise by brewing that vile filth, coffee, and adding a much more extensive array of food options catering to a migraine-inducing (for me, anaphylactic shock-inducing for my customers) web of allergies and preferences, but for what it bought me?

A sense of personal freedom, a feeling of security about my future, interacting with people my age in a way that doesn't set my social anxiety racing, being able to have authority on my side for once (You don't think I was joking about that Trespass Order now, do you Emma?), and some people I'm starting to think I might actually be friends with.

DING!

I turned my head to the door, a practiced customer service smile on my face… ah, lovely.

Did I forget to add 'No PRT trying to use the exhaustively detailed contract Dad had negotiated with them as toilet paper' to the list?

"Pardon me, Ma'am," I said to the American Flag bandana'd woman marching in the door, as the Emu went silent, Koma and Sparky stopping their improvised jam session, conversations halted, and numerous phones were pointed at the Protectorate Hero.

"If you didn't notice the sign on the door, the same sign I remind you of on nearly a daily basis, we at the Emo Emu, for the safety and happiness of our Valued Guests, do not permit masks on the premises."

"I am Federal Parahuman Agent, Countess, it is unlawful for you to ask me to unmask. You know that."

"And I am certain you know, that this private property, that mask bans have been upheld by the Courts repeatedly, that the Cape Name I chose is Rikyu, and that this is Brockton Bay, where Parahuman crime is so endemic, and law enforcement so terribly unable to do anything about it that many of my Dear Guests are traumatized and, might, for example, find themselves experiencing unpleasant memories at the sight of a masked Cape intruding on what should be a Safe Space." I didn't need to look at Table 6 to know to start brewing a potent anti-anxiety blend for Mrs. Shikibu.

"Perhaps if you showed up for your scheduled Wards patrols, some of those criminals might find their way off the street then?"

"Oh, was I scheduled tonight?"

"Yes," she hissed. "The same schedule I have had to come here to remind you about every night for the last month."

"Ah, it seems it slipped my mind, Ma'am, what with calling my Father the first several nights to ask if he'd approved of me going on patrol, finding out that he didn't, and then that prompt investigation by the Youth Guard…"

She ground her teeth, eyes tracking me as I stepped past Jeanne and her sister to hand the shaking librarian the cup I'd prepared for her. "On the house," I whispered.

"The one Channel 5 and the Bay Herald did that expose on last week about how a bunch of teenage thieves hacked into the PRT, re-wrote patrol schedules for months, and somehow shipped everylast Protectorate member to a Cultural Sensitivity Seminar in Boston so they could rob a bank."

Her glower was something fearsome. "That does not change that…"

As was my smile. "That you are still expecting me to work a patrol route authored by the criminal genius of… Hellhound, I suppose it was." I gave a shrug, as if to say 'It can't be helped'.

"...If you're still locked out of the computer, perhaps you could try working things out on pen and paper? I have some in the back I could let you borrow."

I prided myself on knowing my customers as well as they knew themselves. NOT BETTER. Holy Fuck, TMI is thing. …Where was I? Ah yes, I didn't need to look towards Table 11 to know it was Lisa (only Lisa, and only ever Lisa) who was snickering into her cup of house specialty anti-focus blend and that across from her Chris (only Chris, and only Chris unless we were both at the Rig picking up our paychecks at the same time) was hiding his face in his hoodie and cup of Emo Emu exclusive Focus Prompting Blend.

DING!

A girl, one of the fellow Goth crowd walked, burger in mouth and both middle fingers in the air, tossed a debit card on the counter and sat down with the Quebecois sisters. Her usual then.

"You are a Ward, Countess. Assigned Patrols are required. Assigned even."

Well, color me impressed. Okay, you can't, my powers have stuck me in a permanent state of terminal Goth-ness. Also, I'm ticklish and will absolutely blast you with my tea beams. I'd say my tea beams are awesome, but the girl with the boken at Table 3 will complain that I'm trying to steal her ultimate attack again, and she tips too well to risk aggravating.

But yes, Militia has hidden depths it seems. Hidden depths of snark.

"Strange, it seems my contract, the Wards Handbook, and the Youth Guard's many, many legal representatives are all of a different opinion."

"And how long do you intend to play this game? You made a commitment to serve, Taylor."

At real names are we? "No, the Protectorate made a commitment to get me into Arcadia, and yet I still languish my days away at Winslow. The Protectorate made a commitment to put away the girls who poisoned me, and I still see them every day at school. The Protectorate made a commitment to keep me safe, and I'm paying out my sepia colored ass to keep Newter in scones so he'll keep the Nazis awa…"

"NEWTAH GETS FREA SCONES!" Burger girl yelled, waving a fist with one hand and catching her mostly eaten burger with the other. "Wotz that bloody 'izzard gots tha' ay don' have any!"

"He doesn't bring in outside food," I told her. I got a reply in the form of both middle fingers as she sat back down, burger already in her mouth.



A Bit Tea'd Off (Worm/Fate:Grand Order Inspired)

AN: Kind of ran out of steam here.

Inspired by a combination of the latest FGO event being about Tea, so, you know, clear crossover potential with Taylor, and a post on R/Wormfics looking for a Taylor that joined the Wards before Sophia.

Backstory: Taylor's Summer Camp after her Mom's death was taken over by Uber & Leet, who forced a bunch of middle school girls into a live-action survival horror game. Taylor was thoroughly pissed by the time she got home, went to see Emma, and ended up taking weeks of built up Hebert Temper out on Sophia's face.

This caused Sophia and Emma to Quintriple down on the bullying from the get go, leading to Taylor being held down and having rat poison tea forced down her throat in the middle of the cafeteria. Taylor triggers.

Danny comes through and negotiates a banger of a Wards contract. Which Piggot promptly ignores 'cuz Taylor's In The Army Now and Emily Piggot's Military ain't no union shop.

Pissed, the Heberts decide Taylor will opt of everything Wards (everything is voluntary beyond the basic power testing and costume fitting Taylor had already done), and just collect her did-the-bare-minimum minimum wage paycheck and college fund.

Taylor, being an open Cape (she's visibly not normal), managed to get befriended by a bunch of other outcasts looking for protection at Winslow, they needed a place to hang out, and Taylor decided "I've got tea powers, so I might as well sell tea."

As this was FGO inspired, there are several human!Servants in the Emo Emu.
 
Godseed Taylor a somewhat original concept but not really because nothing is original lol

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A Godseed is an exceedingly rare form of life across the entirety of the omniverse. They are beings who can become gods. They aren't a race; however, they can appear across any world in any universe. Godseeds have the ability to take on the form of some mythical creature or being from their home universe. This is due to numen, which I will explain later. Alternatively, they may transform into completely original forms, though this is rarer. In the beginning, they only possess a small range of abilities, as they are godlings and not gods.

They grow stronger through three ways:

  1. Creation of a Race:
    A Godseed has a very important ability: they can willingly transform other races into entities similar to themselves but lesser in power. Think of a vampire creating lesser vampires who are subject to their command. This creates a new race that is intimately connected to the Godseed. Not only does this increase the Godseed's power in numbers, but it also increases their individual strength. However, they can only bear so many connections, so they need to grow stronger to turn more beings. When they become strong enough, they can form a court, which consists of leaders of their race that hold special abilities, second only to the Godseed itself.
  2. Absorbing Ambient Energy:
    By absorbing ambient energy, a Godseed can slowly increase the strength of their body and abilities. With time and practice, they can create new abilities related to their original one.
  3. Absorbing Numen:
    Numen is one of the oldest forms of energy across the omniverse. It is the fundamental energy of sentience, formed by all beings who live, think, and feel. It can also be described as the energy of acknowledgment. When someone thinks of another being—even offhandedly—they are generating a wisp of numen attributed to that individual. Though it may seem insignificant, this numen can accumulate over time.
Few beings have the power to use numen, which is why this rarely matters. However, this is the reason that when meeting world leaders or famous people, they seem to have a powerful aura—the numen unknowingly attributed to them. Numen does not simply disappear, and legends believed in by many, past or present, can create an ambient field of numen related to those myths. This is why Godseeds often awaken in forms related to the myths, creatures, or beings prevalent in their culture, as they unconsciously absorb said ambient numen.

When a Godseed or their creations achieve great feats, they absorb a large amount of numen attributed to them. This drives their hunger for fame. Particularly impressive feats can even create a myth—a powerful ability related to the Godseed's achievement. For example, if a Godseed saved a country from a tsunami with a single swing of a sword, the numen attributed to them might form into an ability to split almost any power to defend themselves. These abilities are rare and grow in strength alongside the Godseed, making them highly sought after.

Not to mention, numen attributed to a Godseed can increase their overall strength, akin to ambient energy. This is another reason they are called Godseeds, as they can absorb the fundamental power of faith—faith being an aspect of numen. Additionally, turning beings into their race creates an influx of strength, as those transformed have unshakable faith in the Godseed and always keep them in the back of their minds.


Hanu: A Godseed's Domain
With enough ambient energy and numen, and after reaching a heightened level of power, a Godseed can establish a Hanu—a unique space that overlays reality. In a Hanu, the Godseed's power is elevated, and their opponent's abilities are weakened. The Godseed's innate abilities may also surpass their usual restrictions, becoming far more formidable. The terrain is always advantageous to the Godseed, and their race is strengthened within the Hanu.

This space may also have an ability unique to itself. As the Godseed grows stronger, their Hanu expands, transforming from a space into a world, then a galaxy, and eventually into a universe. A fully-developed Godseed may even create a spiritual plane where the souls of their race are recycled. In other words, they are meant to create their own universe, populate it with their race, and become a true god rather than simply a seed.

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I'm thinking about making her Nordic in this fic so she grows up around a lot of that leading to her being a female Ymir or something of the sort which may get her involved with the empire. Maybe have her mom be a retired nazi. or not I'm debating, I wanted to do something Christian but eh it's distasteful. I might just do an original insectoid form and have her turn others into bug people.
 
Hey all I need help, I have the start of a story written out and I have painted myself into a corner the MC needs to get to the hospital but they have no transport so they called the operator and long story short the PRT showed up Armsmaster Battery and Assault and a bunch of PRT goons. Now, this is not actively a bad thing but MC has an aura that gives people in it access to the gamer system Armsmaster called MS protocols after touching the area of effect and now Battery is in charge and sent Assault to talk to the MC. Here is the problem the only thing MC thinks is going on is his ride to the hospital arrived.

How the devil do I get the MC to the hospital without making the PRT an enemy.
 
Happy Hampster said:
Hey all I need help, I have the start of a story written out and I have painted myself into a corner the MC needs to get to the hospital but they have no transport so they called the operator and long story short the PRT showed up Armsmaster Battery and Assault and a bunch of PRT goons. Now, this is not actively a bad thing but MC has an aura that gives people in it access to the gamer system Armsmaster called MS protocols after touching the area of effect and now Battery is in charge and sent Assault to talk to the MC. Here is the problem the only thing MC thinks is going on is his ride to the hospital arrived.

How the devil do I get the MC to the hospital without making the PRT an enemy.
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Ambulances actually have pretty solid medical equipment in them to treat patients on the way to the hospital.

How badly is MC hurt that he needs a ride to the hospital specifically, or will an ambulance do?

If an ambulance will do, or Armsmaster (who has already touched the field) has medical equipment in his supply kit, then they can treat the MC without taking him into the hospital where a bunch of innocent people will be in his range.

If the MC really needs the hospital for treatment, then having the MC pass out mid-negotiations and get rushed to a treatment center (and potentially kept drugged under for treatment until they move a stabilized MC to an area with no innocents).

Failing that, given PRT's paranoia and prep abilities, there ought to be an isolated medical treatment area somewhere in the city in case there's a need for emergency treatment of a potentially contagious case.

...Lastly, if Armsmaster touched it and Battery is sending in Assault, I have to wonder why Armsmaster -- who has a digital link in his suit to Dragon who can observe him, and who has already touched the area once before -- isn't being sent in by Battery since he's most likely to be able to provide medical treatment on-site while also having options like "Dragon notices he's been effected and overrides his power armor's software to freeze him in place".
 
Obloquy said:
snip excellent advice
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unfortunately he ISN'T injured but he needs to get to the hospital.

Okay, so the MC is a dungeon core in the form of a necklace on a human avatar with a zone of influence that heals anyone inside it and he gets mana for anything people do inside the zone of influence including healing but anyone that enters the zone gets gamer powers while they are inside Armsmaster is on lockdown Assault is going in so he can confirm Armsmaster's statements and Armsmaster and Battery being higher ranking than the former villain are a bigger security risk. the MC has only just found out about parahumans from the 911 operator and because from their perspective they were reincarnated a couple hours earlier they have very little idea of what is normal so they summoned a dozen skeletons and dressed them as clowns with the idea of entertaining the kids at the hospital while he heals them. the MC's idea of what is or is not normal is absolutely broken.
 
Yeah, you've written yourself into a bit of a corner, so...

1) How and why does MC know that things like 911 calls and hospitals exist? Might be more sense to have the MC get to a hospital first and other people mistake the clowns, healing, etc. as a new parahuman villain/attack until they realize that people are getting healthy.

2) PRT doesn't show up until a few minutes later, when people have started being healed, and the fact that no one appears to be in immediate danger changes things...

3) Might want to just do a bit of a cut a few days later, after things have been investigated and everyone has been M/S cleared, and the MC can have had the opportunity to read enough reports about evil groups attacking hospitals (Slaughterhouse 9 especially) to understand why everyone got jumpy about this new force showing up out of nowhere at a place with vulnerable people, especially when skeletons in clown costumes at a hospital can LOOK a lot like the opening of a Bonesaw appearance.
 
Obloquy said:
1) How and why does MC know that things like 911 calls and hospitals exist? Might be more sense to have the MC get to a hospital first and other people mistake the clowns, healing, etc. as a new parahuman villain/attack until they realize that people are getting healthy.
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the MC has no idea where in BB he is but he last lived in our world, it's an MC I've worked on for a while of a reincarnating character that has died and lived so many different places and times that they got bored of being human and requested being a dungeon core.
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2) PRT doesn't show up until a few minutes later, when people have started being healed, and the fact that no one appears to be in immediate danger changes things...
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Yeah maybe I should do this but I started them in the docks for story reasons and again they don't know where the hospital is, the operator took their confusion and a couple things they said out of context I really want to run with the theme of people being confused by the MC through no real fault of the MC. It's very much a comedy of errors with the MC bobbing along not entirely sure why everyone is acting so odd all the time but they are so used to weird and wonderful that mundane misunderstanding just slips beneath their notice.
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3) Might want to just do a bit of a cut a few days later, after things have been investigated and everyone has been M/S cleared, and the MC can have had the opportunity to read enough reports about evil groups attacking hospitals (Slaughterhouse 9 especially) to understand why everyone got jumpy about this new force showing up out of nowhere at a place with vulnerable people, especially when skeletons in clown costumes at a hospital can LOOK a lot like the opening of a Bonesaw appearance.
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yeah, I can see the appeal certainly, but I don't like reading time skips where things happen and we're told about the events later so I can't really justify writing it like that. like sure skip a training montage fine but don't skip three years where the MC becomes a lesbian dates the leader that was just trying to kill her and her friends and now they've broken up because of god I could never figure out what was going on with the 100.
 
There is NO WAY that the PRT is going to let an new parahuman with unknown powers ANYWHERE NEAR a hospital with injured and vulnerable civilians without several rounds of power testing, ESPECIALLY a human-influencing Master

As long as you're set on this particular set-up, the only way out I can think that doesn't involve a time-skip with explanations and tests or developing enmity between them and the PRT is if the Endbringer alarm goes off (Simurgh attacking in Australia maybe? Or just a totally AU attack elsewhere,) and MC shows up volunteering to heal people at the site since they take and by-default trust all volunteers
 
The fans who were the right age to get really angry about Blackwell when Worm came out are now the right age to get really angry about HOAs. So, I propose the following:

Worm AU where the Undersiders are adults who just bought homes in a developer managed HOA being built by Fortress Construction. They all still have their canon powers, they don't know each other when the fic starts, and yes, Calvert is getting up to the usual HOA gone amuck nonsense, in an effort to rack up enough fines that he can extort them into doing crime for him.
 
I'm 40something and childless and I'm still the right age to get really angry about Blackwell :p

(HOAs, on the other hand, are wrong-end-of-telescope due to me not living in America.)
 
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