Welcome to Brighton (Mafia game)
- Thread starter Terrabrand
- Start date
- Mafia
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- Tags
- mafia
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Wait, so if you say "Nani", does Nanimani blow up or do you?
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Lessee. I'll probably stick with giving it another day-ish, but certainly at least another 3.5 hours, because having recruitment open less than a full day just seems unfair to prospective players.
Let's see...
@shadow shinobi
Just making sure, but you do know what you're signing up for, right? We've had some sign up wanting to try that turned up to be... mostly no show.
@shadow shinobi
Just making sure, but you do know what you're signing up for, right? We've had some sign up wanting to try that turned up to be... mostly no show.
shadow shinobi
I survived getting stabbed, TWICE!!!
- Location
- uk
Yeah I've played mafia before in real life and have town of Salem which is basically mafia but with more roles and rules.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Yep. It's majority hammer. Just one of the things that was settled on to help shake things up compared to recent games, which have all for awhile been plurality.
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Fair warning that TOS generally has less rules and arguably diversity of roles than forum mafia so its a order of magnitude harder than that. Mafia in real life also allows you to read the person for more information than you get through textso its also easier than forum mafia.
Just be prepared for this to be fairly involved.
- Location
- Central Standard Time
Time commitment, mostly. This takes place over *calcs* between three and four weeks. And threads can move fast. One recent game reached 100 pages.
shadow shinobi
I survived getting stabbed, TWICE!!!
- Location
- uk
Yeah I can commit the time I don't have much of a social life anyway.
- Location
- Florida
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Still it should be noted that was because of a mountain of player salt. This is more likely to be about 50-60 pages with this amount of people.
Nictis
Best Sidekick
- Location
- Ninja Dave's Cookies
- Pronouns
- Any
ToS takes 15 minutes and there isn't enough time in it for people to care about the game or think things over.
Just remember not to give up, and don't expect to be able to lynch someone just by putting your vote on them and meowing.
shadow shinobi
I survived getting stabbed, TWICE!!!
- Location
- uk
I know and I'm prepared for the commitment.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Nani, are you sure it's enough?Alright, I think that's been enough "Are you sure, though"
Nanimani
Probably listening to music
- Pronouns
- She/Her
- Location
- NZ
Bear in mind I am a complete noob at forum mafia. I like discussing stuff to clear my head and to participate and practice doing stuff in forum.
So over 50% majority hammer means that first lynch needs 8 votes. Presumably mafia will be at least 25%, possibly 33%. Which means that first lynch theoretically just needs a few town to join a ~5 scum bandwagon.
However, if the wagon kills a town, the voters will be under scrutiny and a bad scum would be risking their entire team being discovered fast.
If instead of majority of scum faction voting it's one of them tricking town into a bandwagon, then all town has to do is look at the main instigators.
The possibilities are endless.
So over 50% majority hammer means that first lynch needs 8 votes. Presumably mafia will be at least 25%, possibly 33%. Which means that first lynch theoretically just needs a few town to join a ~5 scum bandwagon.
However, if the wagon kills a town, the voters will be under scrutiny and a bad scum would be risking their entire team being discovered fast.
If instead of majority of scum faction voting it's one of them tricking town into a bandwagon, then all town has to do is look at the main instigators.
The possibilities are endless.
Nanimani
Probably listening to music
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Four or five, but it's rare to have a single scum faction with more than the standard three players. Occasionally there's a four player faction. Never is there a faction with five in. If there's five scum on a bandwagon, not all of them are coordinating.
Hum... That's an idea for a role... Scum who has a 1 on 1 contact with a member of the other scumgroup and both people know this. The mindgames'd be interesting.
On the one hand, yes, on the other hand, that's why they'd never do this. Generally speaking, scum often doesn't have much of a stake in day one lynches other than it being not-them. Popping in as like the fourth person on a bandwagon without providing a reason why is more suspicious behavior than starting one, which requires you to be very transparently opinionated
Of course, then you get Princess Bride shenanigans where a scum member would go three steps ahead to start a bandwagon to look like you're doing something too risky to look really town, but that's uncommon because you do have to put yourself out there. You can't just have "just because" as a reason and be seen as a major proponent of a bandwagon, it just doesn't work.
- Location
- NZ
Are day one lynches forced always?
With that in mind, how does town use the very likely town member lynched? since day one claims are usually policy lynched.
Or does day one lynch targets have enough reason to reveal information to avoid their death and try to find scum?
With that in mind, how does town use the very likely town member lynched? since day one claims are usually policy lynched.
Or does day one lynch targets have enough reason to reveal information to avoid their death and try to find scum?
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
To expand on this, the reason why you don't tend to get large individual scum factions is because, for example, with fifteen players and a single scum faction of five, they'd have control of the lynch in as little as five town deaths.
Which occurs day 3 (assuming standard one night kill from the faction), if they aren't managing to hit scum, while scum has a disproportionate influence on the vote because they are coordinating. Eg if on day 2 a scum is pegged by a townie, he needs to convince town to put at least six votes on the guy, while only having eight guys who will vote in earnest for them.
Suffice it to say, town has little chance if they have to get a scum within three days, and then start consistently getting scum, to not lose.
So, yes. More than three players in a single scum faction (at this kinda scale, anyways) would be highly unusual.
... not that I'll say anything about this game's actual set up. Just expanding on the 'why'.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Right, gonna start a player list up. Not setting the full list for another 17~ hours or anything like that, but the players I'm most sure on I ma as well handle adding to the player list now to save time later.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
I have slightly adjusted the rules to make clear that a plurality lynch will occur if the hammer is not dropped by day's end. Thus, the only way to not lynch would be an intentional mass voting of 'no lynch'.