King Arthur
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This was before Parker Industries, but he also made that super advanced cryogenic unit that I think helped a lot with organ transport.
Unwraveling the Web(Spider-Man Peggy-Sue)
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I was thinking doing something...new? I guess? A warning though, still half-asleep while writing this, my Avatar's really appropriate to my situation right now.
How about making a security consultancy firm? Some of reasons are as follows:
1) Guaranteed employment for some of Peter's most important people and a few of his more honest future villains. For instance, picture what could have happened if Dr. Connors had someone to support and properly assist him when he making the regenerative serum, like Gwen and Peter (seriously, Gwen's actually crazy talented in Biochemistry according to the Marvel Wiki, on the same level as Peter no less).
2) Producing non-lethal devices that Law Enforcement (at first) could use and personal security (again, non-lethal). Picture, for instance, bullets that are balls of web for instance.
3) Creating a place where super-powered folks could come and work, especially other Spider-themed heroes. Think of it as what Tony tried to do with the Ironmen and Stark Enterprises.
4) As one of the first supers, Spiderman being associated with the Company could actually see it gain a lot of cred. Making the time to both work with the firm and help out New York from time to time with stuff the police or other rescue services can't handle should actually raise the bar for all Supers that follow, on or off hours, Spiderman's been helping to save lives, would same be said for other heroes after us?
5) Having an in with the Police Force and Superhero community might just allow for better coordination between the two parties, especially with the tech from the consultancy. A lot of the tech that Peter's made serves to level the playing field between Supers and non-supers, take the classic webbing, strong enough to help him hold up a building, and with this, amongst many other techs, these guys have, it would mean that when there comes a point were the police can't handle something, Supers would have to step in. The police can't just be made irrelevant anymore.
6) The consultancy could offer training for new super-powered employees. One of the biggest problems that successful independent supers have caused is the idea that the whole business looks easy, we know it isn't, but Peter's in the unique position to offer training to supers, how to avoid a lot of the pitfalls that usually trip them up, we might even be able to prevent the New Warriors from fucking up...or even becoming a thing.
How about making a security consultancy firm? Some of reasons are as follows:
1) Guaranteed employment for some of Peter's most important people and a few of his more honest future villains. For instance, picture what could have happened if Dr. Connors had someone to support and properly assist him when he making the regenerative serum, like Gwen and Peter (seriously, Gwen's actually crazy talented in Biochemistry according to the Marvel Wiki, on the same level as Peter no less).
2) Producing non-lethal devices that Law Enforcement (at first) could use and personal security (again, non-lethal). Picture, for instance, bullets that are balls of web for instance.
3) Creating a place where super-powered folks could come and work, especially other Spider-themed heroes. Think of it as what Tony tried to do with the Ironmen and Stark Enterprises.
4) As one of the first supers, Spiderman being associated with the Company could actually see it gain a lot of cred. Making the time to both work with the firm and help out New York from time to time with stuff the police or other rescue services can't handle should actually raise the bar for all Supers that follow, on or off hours, Spiderman's been helping to save lives, would same be said for other heroes after us?
5) Having an in with the Police Force and Superhero community might just allow for better coordination between the two parties, especially with the tech from the consultancy. A lot of the tech that Peter's made serves to level the playing field between Supers and non-supers, take the classic webbing, strong enough to help him hold up a building, and with this, amongst many other techs, these guys have, it would mean that when there comes a point were the police can't handle something, Supers would have to step in. The police can't just be made irrelevant anymore.
6) The consultancy could offer training for new super-powered employees. One of the biggest problems that successful independent supers have caused is the idea that the whole business looks easy, we know it isn't, but Peter's in the unique position to offer training to supers, how to avoid a lot of the pitfalls that usually trip them up, we might even be able to prevent the New Warriors from fucking up...or even becoming a thing.
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Indeed.
And Reed is as we al know a patronizing dweeb.
He had a translation program that was capable of translating ALIEN languages in a few minutes notice and did not make it available to the public because it would put "translators out of their jobs".
Yes.
Just imagine , if Gutenberg or Caxton would have been as wise and never printed books because it would put scribes out of buisness, what a wonderful world stuck in the late middle ages we would live in.
Moral: LET US NOT BE REED.
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Crow
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Ehhh we addressed this before but the main thing is that these things would completely revolutionize the world. And the writters cant have that cuz the comics appear in a reality similar to us-in the modern sense thatt we can relate to the thigns that are happening and the setting is not completely removed from reality.
Reed´s still something of an ass a character trait. comes with being a recognized supergenius territory.
And Tony is a dick cuz he´s Tony. He may be a loveable dick cuz of his inherent charisma but he´s still a dick.
I dunno. A sucessful parker industries would be pretty rad you know? considering in the comics people are always outmaneuvering peter and setting things for him to fail and he cant do anything cuz he aint all knowing.
And the little queens boy becoming a super billoinaire philanthrope is a neat development. From rags to riches stories are beloved for a reason.
Though yes. I do want to train the younger heroes too if possible and hey! why not have both developments?
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Thing is, Peter can still become rich through the Security Firm, very rich in fact thanks to some of the tech he could release. The fact that the Firm could still allow him to punch in a few hours as one of the company's Supers without much problem is a bonus.
I'm uncertain of how well I could explain the (badly written) idea, because there's a lot I didn't write down, but I'll try.
Security Firm (Web Inc. name pending)
Primary Responsibilities
- Providing non-lethal security options for the New York Police Force, rated up to Class 50 Supers.
- Providing safety equipment for the New York Police Force, rated for engagement against Supers.
- Providing Security Options for New York's Civil Structures, Banks, Museums, and so forth against criminals, mundane or supers, including adequately trained and equipped responders.
- Providing personal security options.
Secondary Responsibilities
- Become one of the largest employers of Supers in the Greater New York area, either as trained responders or support staff.
- Unofficial liaison between Lawful Supers and the New York Police Force.
- Assist the Police Force against engagements with Supers the officers cannot handle.
- Supply the New York Police Force and Forensics with state of the art equipment in one of many laboratories they could rent.
- Run charity projects that involve funding schools, homeless shelters, outreach programs, urban renewals, and freed prisoner reintegration through temporary employment.
- Investigating cases of a super misusing their powers.
- Investigating cases of the unauthorised use of Web Inc. equipment.
Tertiary Responsibilities
- Become one of the largest employers of mutants in the Greater New York area.
- Finding unknown / new Supers and assisting them with their powers and abilities.
- Legitimising supers in the eyes of NY citizens and instilling a sense of responsibility and accountability in NY Supers.
- Provide employment for Peter's loved ones and friends.
Hidden Responsibilities
- Finding other Spider Supers and acting as a nerve centre for their activities.
- Serving as a test bed for Project: Great Responsibility, by trying to instill a sense of responsibility and accountability in all employees.
- Creating the Future Foundation Think Tank with excess profits.
There's more to it, but the idea behind Web Inc. is to try help out on the ground by sorting out the sources of many of New York's greatest problems as early as possible, so that by the time the Avengers and the Fantastic Four are all things, there's a New York that can properly take care of itself and demands of these teams more than what they gave in the comics.
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Peter might be a little young for a security firm. Also it makes things a little too militant. Which is a bad look for general metahuman labour. You want people to move away from thinking of them as weapons.
Why not just fund himself with his own inventions? Maybe find a way to get to/talk to Stark and talk a little money out of him to start up Parker Industries?
If you want Supers working more closely with the police, just have Spider-Man speak up about getting a training program going on with the police.
If you want people to be more accepting of metahuman labour, just hire a lot of metahumans and have them sue their abilities within the company, if possible. Force people to see it as an edge, and other companies will basically lobby for us.
Why not just fund himself with his own inventions? Maybe find a way to get to/talk to Stark and talk a little money out of him to start up Parker Industries?
If you want Supers working more closely with the police, just have Spider-Man speak up about getting a training program going on with the police.
If you want people to be more accepting of metahuman labour, just hire a lot of metahumans and have them sue their abilities within the company, if possible. Force people to see it as an edge, and other companies will basically lobby for us.
Not necessarily. The thing here is marketing, a Security Firm invokes security which is the message that we need to send.
"Superhumans are safe. Some may harm you, but the rest will keep you safe from them."
This message needs to be sent out as early and quickly as possible before people like JJ Jameson strangle it in its crib.
Peter is too young to be the head, yes, but Ben Reilly, former Military Police?
That's what Reed and Tony do, we need to look different from them, again from the get go so that when they do what they do, the Public will force to do more, to be better.
"Oh, so you invented new weapons...okay, but that Web Incorporated in NY just rolled out new riot gear for the city's police force."
Again, public image is key here. Nobody will ever trust donations or equipment made by a kid or an anonymous person, but equipment made by a brand new company built to keep people safe on top having a trained workforce for on-site security and offering it all at lower than normal prices?
Also, Parker Industries was a good idea, the problem is that it was another think tank headed by another genius. It's soooo bland from a marketing perspective.
Furthermore, getting Stark to fund us means that we'll owe him a favour. This will bite us in the rear later on.
No one will listen to Spiderman now, remember that this is at the start of his career and all people saw was a wise-cracking joker on TV. We don't have a Brand or the Trust.
That's what the Firm will solve. It's a company, so it MUST do well with its Brand to gain the trust needed to make that suggestion, but until then, Supers will need to eat. Furthermore, the Public also saw the dangerous side of Supers, it will take a while before that will be sorted (if at all) and I don't think that the Police will be all that eager to train and hire any.
And that, ultimately is what I don't want to happen. The idea isn't to make metahuman labour a thing to lobbied over, on that path lies Unions, Workers Rights, and more than likely a lot of fights.
The idea is quite simply, "There's this Security Firm that started up in New York and has taken its obligations to the community seriously."
Certainly, hiring superhumans will be big headlines, but if done properly (with the right interviews), it's going to beg the question, NYC isn't the only city in the USA that has a superhuman population. Who's hiring in those other cities?
Web Inc. isn't going to hire superhumans, it's going to hire the right people for the job, provide the money to have the best and brightest of NYC think up and produce wonders, and help the city clean itself up for the sake of those young geniuses.
Super idealistic I know, however, don't you think it's about time Peter put some of those ideals down to paper and make a business out keeping families safe?
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Anything to keep the two stooges accountable to the public, us from being an impoverished reporter forever and our conscience clean while doing so.
I knoww I keep harping on this, but in this quest at least we are not wedded to try and keep society in synch with real world cevelopment.
So, let us be a game changer and not a pawn of the "Illuminati" .
Crow
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You know he does a lot of these things with Parker industries and through his Ben Parker Foundation.
It has its troubles what with nothing ever going well with peter but its there. and he´s funding scientists and curing cancer and all that and has significant more power and has a couple supers and geniuses on his payroll.
Or had, well the dead no more storyline is being vicious.
But it does feel too militant too as a complete focus rather than an off-branch. I dont dislike it but I think the Parker Industries could be pretty good with this too.
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Not quite. since a security firm invokes defense/protection. Which makes people think of metahumans as warriors. Which makes them think of danger.
This?
This would polarize things.
It would be setting public opinion of metahumans as 'living weapons'. Either for you, or against you. So, any metahuman that doesn't go out of their way to protect people ala a super? Will basically be considered a terrorist. Not officially (probably), but that'll be the sentiment.
If you want the rest of the world to accept metas, just make it accept them as people (with a little extra). Using them to get an edge in general business? That would do that. Setting them up in a security firm? They'll only be seen as weapons.
Crow
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Also think of the possibility of using supers for business! Kurt could be a billoinare with:
Bamf Airlines.
"Itt´ll be a hell of a trip"
King Arthur
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Not really practical for anything outside of delivery from parts of New York to other parts of New York.
He can only move a mile or two in one teleport. Sure, he can do multiple teleports in a row, but it's super exhausting. Like, if he had to he could probably make it to Florida super quick, but he'd be about to collapse.
It's just not something he can sustain on a regular basis, he can't manage those long trips often.
Also, it's very tiring to brng others with him, and I assume this means the same with objects of partcularly large sizes.
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He could still do a Courier service. Fastest in New York.
I'll be honest, I'd like him to be a SHIELD agent more with a business on the side then the Security Firm approach.
I feel this would give us more contacts and info to work with short term AND long term.
Crow
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Its just that being a shield agent we would be well a subordinate to someone. While building a power base on our would let us be more independent and allow us more freedom.
Sure itt´ll give contacts but at the price of having to answer up the command chain, and we would still be getting lots of contacts with our hero career anyway.
Working together is not bad but working for them is ehhhhh...
I don't see freedom to be a particularly valuable thing, given that the things that we want to do don't really require it. Superheroing? They agree to that. Changing the world for the better with our nifty tech? They allow that.
Being subordinate to someone isn't bad. And we'll always be constrained by time; we will NEVER get to do everything we want to do.
So, honestly, is the idea of answering to someone that bad? Because for a quest, focus is kind of important and having a GM mission generator provides that in spades.
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I'm in favor of working for ol' Nick.
Amazing Spider Man had that as a thing, right? We could be the first Avenger, I suppose.
Allows us an in with anything like the Hulk or the Thor fiasco in the future, hopefully. Maybe a way to affect change regarding metahuman relations in general too, if we're lucky.
Amazing Spider Man had that as a thing, right? We could be the first Avenger, I suppose.
Allows us an in with anything like the Hulk or the Thor fiasco in the future, hopefully. Maybe a way to affect change regarding metahuman relations in general too, if we're lucky.
Crow
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Nicks a dick tho. You want to work with Nick Jr.
Shield agents are...well you know. They are supposed to be secret agents or the like.
Also yes that whole metahuman relations thing happens and we work under say Maria hill. We would have to do what they say or go rogue.
and anyways being a big time hero and joining the avengers (maybe become a founding member?) Would see us meet him.
Or if we see the big God of thunder calling storms to smite his enemies with. How much of an awareness roll would that be?
We have some very different set of values then.
Now for personal opinion? Im not really intersted in Peter Parker: Agent of Shield. Im interested in Spider-man maybe with a side of Peter Parker: Genius CEO.
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We should be both.
CEO for the money, and because Peter can actually help people with it.
SHIELD agents because his parents were SHIELD agents, and Peter can actually help people with it.
CEO for the money, and because Peter can actually help people with it.
SHIELD agents because his parents were SHIELD agents, and Peter can actually help people with it.
So you want to turn Peter into Tony 2.0? A significantly less dickish version that is less of a whore to be sure, but Tony 2.0?
I mean, how? Peter is GOOD at making things that benefit mankind. But I can't recall a time where he was particularly good at marketing, networking or having the people's skill to apply. Him gaining these things, well, MAKE him into Tony.
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And with the field record of the various Directors of SHIELD being rather...spotty.....
King Arthur
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I really don't want to be a Shield Agent, way too shady for my taste.
If we do want to join a group why not, you know, the Fantastic Four? Cool space adventures and being in a position to try and get Reed to market his stuff. At the very least joining the FF is something Peter has always wanted to do, I'm pretty sure he's never wanted to be a Shield Agent.
If we do want to join a group why not, you know, the Fantastic Four? Cool space adventures and being in a position to try and get Reed to market his stuff. At the very least joining the FF is something Peter has always wanted to do, I'm pretty sure he's never wanted to be a Shield Agent.
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Spidey tried.
He got the non-approval of Reed for asking about a stipend.
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I'm aware, but even after that he still wanted to be a member of the FF. As long as he doesn't ask to be payed he's cool.
Which honestly isn't a problem. With Uncle Ben alive the family isn't hurting for money, Reed would definetly be willing to let his team member have supplies for making webbing/other equipment/experiments, as long as he lives with his family he doesn't need to pay for food or rent and if he wants to move out the FF would let a member of their team live with them. In addition to all of that, Reed is the smartest man alive, working with him would allow for collaboration on projects and even just poking him for ideas which could easily lead to more money then any job could make him.
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And when we want to make our ideas availablae to the public, he will find a way to stop us from doing so, because heaven forbids the gap between John Q. Public and FF superscience should ever decrease...
No.
Sorry, but no.
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