Uniting All Under Heaven (Kingdom AU CK2 Quest)

[X] Skip forward to Riboku's soldier years.
QM said that we'd get the same amount of points either way which means that he is factoring in the bonus already. I'd rather get into the meat of the quest and decisions that will actually matter.
 
So @Japanime our Daddy General pulled off the Battle of Cannae, Qin Edition?

  1. The center was deliberately weak, while the wings were strong.
  2. The enemy outnumbered us.
  3. We allowed them to push on the center but fucked them on the flanks.
  4. They were enveloped and got finished by a cavalry charge.
Anymore else?
 
So @Japanime our Daddy General pulled off the Battle of Cannae, Qin Edition?

  1. The center was deliberately weak, while the wings were strong.
  2. The enemy outnumbered us.
  3. We allowed them to push on the center but fucked them on the flanks.
  4. They were enveloped and got finished by a cavalry charge.
Anymore else?

To me it felt more like a Zulu Bull-Horns?
 
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By the way THIS is the guy I'd like us to be more like. Not as much of a..meanie but definitely as armored and mounted. I present the Gyoku Hou Unit!

EDIT: Also i'd like to suggest our real unit name to be the Dragon Riders or the Lóng qíshì unit. In time, we will be known as the Qin's Dragon General. The mightiest beast that Qin has to offer.

EDIT 2: Anyone have an idea for our unit and how it will look? I'm kinda in the fancy at the moment :)
 
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Will there be a significant probability of an option to Defect appearing If we play our cards right?

Possibly, though you would lose everything if you did so. Remember, treason in the Warring States Period was rewarded with the death of your family, even your extended family up to 7 relations away from you.

So would good plans during future wars where we are the commander/general add modifiers to our rolls?

Yes, if they happen to be particularly good or insightful though.

To me it felt more like a Zulu Bull-Horns?

Nope, those are both more or less right. This was more a double envelopment in the style of Cannae than the Zulu Bull-Horns.

Both Duke Ten and General Raizen knew the disposition of the other's army. Duke Ten knew that he was outnumbered by the Chu Army, and that in order to prevent his own army from being enveloped he would need to thin his center while trusting his flanks to be kept secure by his advantage in cavalry. General Raizen on the other hand, reasoned that he needed his flanks to be bolstered by his militia troops in order to prevent his regulars from being run over roughshod by the Qin cavalry. General Raizen believed that his stronger force in the center bolstered by his own presence would be able to securely break through the Qin lines, which it nearly did, while Duke Ten believed that the only way to win this battle would be to crush the Chu flanks and their cavalry support in order to trap the Chu in the center. While both strategies had merit, the dice rolls, and the ensuing battle showed that Duke Ten had outplayed General Raizen at least when it came to maneuver and timing. Had Duke Ten been a touch too late, read bad roll, then the Qin center would have broken and there would have been nothing he could do about it besides trying to order a quick retreat.

By the way THIS is the guy I'd like us to be more like. Not as much of a..meanie but definitely as armored and mounted. I present the Gyoku Hou Unit!

I will tell you that something like that is a possibility for when you try to start your own unit. I plan on giving you a lot of leeway there since you do have the status to be able to afford, equip, and lead a unit of nobles such as that. At the same time though, you could do almost anything with the make-up of your unit, whether it be adding a buttload of archers or even chariots. Of course, for those who want to try to rough it, you could always try to work your way up from the bottom and ingratiate yourselves with the peasant militia troops, though there are obviously advantages and disadvantages for that option.

Also i'd like to suggest our real unit name to be the Dragon Riders or the Lóng qíshì unit. In time, we will be known as the Qin's Dragon General. The mightiest beast that Qin has to offer.

Naming will eventually come later, after you have made a name for yourself.
 
[x] Continue with an extended prologue.
Holy shit I love this idea and hope you continue for a long time! I LOVE Kingdom so much!
 
Possibly, though you would lose everything if you did so. Remember, treason in the Warring States Period was rewarded with the death of your family, even your extended family up to 7 relations away from you.

Excellent. /evil hand rub

The road to the utter annihilation of China instead of its unification sounds grand. C:
 
Excellent. /evil hand rub

The road to the utter annihilation of China instead of its unification sounds grand. C:

Aside from the fact that you will probably be outvoted in this measure, defecting will not simply be a one-off decision but one based off of the development of your character.

Also, this assumes that you can successfully defect. You will probably have to fight your way out, and the opponents you could potentially face are not to be trifled with.

But, if that floats your boat then go ahead and try.
 
Pfft. Details, details. Having a set path is as boring as playing a New Game+ on the 10th try anyway.

It's but a small reminder to keep our, say, options open. C:

Let the cards, or dice in this case, fall as they may. \o\
 
Will there be a significant probability of an option to Defect appearing If we play our cards right?

GM already said something about this but id like to add that if we defect were most likely not going to be well respected by our new host.

No one likes a traitor. Especially those who do it for money.
 
GM already said something about this but id like to add that if we defect were most likely not going to be well respected by our new host.

No one likes a traitor. Especially those who do it for money.

Actually, back then it was quite common for men with talent to defect to other states. Great General Gakuki (Yue Yi in history) of Yan was formerly a citizen from the State of Zhao, while the current Qin Chancellor of State, Saitaku, was formerly from the State of Yan and served there as an official for awhile before he ended up in Qin. But the main difference there is whether or not you have proven talent. Furthermore, it also depends on if your host trusts you or not.

Also, you don't retain your nobility status if you defect, at least not of the same level, since there won't automatically be land for you to use as a fief. So, I doubt anyone will want to defect since you will lose most of your stuff.

I'd rather coup and become King of Qin ourselves than defect.

You can certainly try, but keep in mind who the current monarch is.

The current King of Qin is King Sho, the one whose conquests almost doubled the size of Qin. Furthermore, the Great Generals serving under him are very loyal to him, which was why in canon he allowed the ability to wage wars untethered from the State of Qin. Those Great Generals in questions are noteworthy ones such as Hakuki (Bai Qi).

You'd also need a lot more men for that matter.
 
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