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Thor: Ragnarok

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Mark said:
So just to clarify...... you agree with threatening to apply to become a mod and then abuse the power for personal vengeance?

Ya, you probably aren't a Christian.
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I should be vaguely offended, but am too amused to do so. It sort of feels like I'm talking to my friend's parents, to be honest.
 
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    • violation of multiple rules...again Hello.

    I think I warned some of you not to long ago about what a discussion was supposed to be; I felt it right at the time not to make overt gestures in order not to stifle discussion too much, but at the same time, I hoped the message would be received in a proper, adult way all the same.

    Instead this time I'm seeing things with a far clearer lens, and so we will proceed in a two-fold way.

    @Mark , you're receiving points and a permanent threadban from this discussion. What you had to say was said something like four to five pages ago, and you've just been repeating yourself from that point onward, doing your hardest to pretend you either weren't listening when others talked to you, or outright avoiding to tackle the issues in front of you until others pretty much insisted on it. I was willing to let you go with the points and a three day threadban because I hoped you'd calm down about a movie's backstory alteration after three days. Apparently you care for the issue deeply, but there is one such thing as caring too much.

    @Jace911 , what did I say about one-liners filled with sarcasm? If you have nothing to add to a discussion, then you don't need to bring up your post count. You help no one, and definitely don't make life easier because us Mods then have to go through more posts than needed to get to the crux of the matter. Since you're pretty much in this discussion to one-line Mark, you may take your points too.

    @Nilay , threatening another user through enlisting as a Mod and then using those powers to harass them is not okay; I'm letting you off with just a WfmB (warning for Marginal Behavior) right now, specifically because you were led into the situation by what I suppose is reasonable frustration...but don't do it again.

    The thread will now be reopened.

    This time, do try to keep it civil.
     
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    • I suspect the soundtrack did not have quite the intended effect on me because I was introduced to it as the soundtrack of an amateur animation about kittens photoshopped into viking raider outfits. But yes, it was still cool.
     
    So, uh, saw the movie myself recently. Not actually a huge fan of the soundtrack - stuff like Immigrant Song is cool but just kind of... there. Like, GotG made musical choices like that a major part of the movie, part of Starlord's character and informing you about his mother's character to a degree as well, giving you a solid image of her without really any dialogue or scenes. It felt like Ragnarok was aping that without really understanding the purpose it had served, as part of a sort of extended campaign to ape GotG's tone.

    And the tone was weird, being a serious story about the fall of Asgard and also a story with a lot of gag characters and scenes (and man Skurge was sort of a mess, and that last stand shot just did not work Marvel).

    Don't get me wrong, I had fun watching the movie and I'd recommend it to people, but, well, it had some problems. This is a film where Thor loses an eye and also a film where Loki has an extended 'oh shit' sequence played for laughs with the Hulk. A film where Asgard burns and a rock dude with a high-pitched voice is comically bad at revolutions and is played entirely as a gag except for that one time he's part of the desperate evacuation of Asgard.
     
    Creepy thought of the day:

    Why would the Grandmaster have Valkyrie's old clothes tucked away in the ship he uses for origies?
     
    I was pretty surprised that they decided to show Thor as just flat out stronger than Hulk when he's doing his one with the storm thing given Joss Whedon was adamant that "Hulk is strongest there is". From the looks of it, banner would have gone down for the count had Thor gotten another clean hit in.

    Still, this was the best Hulk movie ever made.
     
    Mental Omega said:
    I was pretty surprised that they decided to show Thor as just flat out stronger than Hulk when he's doing his one with the storm thing given Joss Whedon was adamant that "Hulk is strongest there is". From the looks of it, banner would have gone down for the count had Thor gotten another clean hit in.

    Still, this was the best Hulk movie ever made.
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    On the other hand Thor seemed to draw strength from Asgard just like Hela. With Asgard gone his lightning mode will likely be less powerful. So it makes sense to show the cosmic/strongest version of Thor as being stronger while letting Hulk be the strongest 99% of the time.
     
    Mook said:
    On the other hand Thor seemed to draw strength from Asgard just like Hela. With Asgard gone his lightning mode will likely be less powerful. So it makes sense to show the cosmic/strongest version of Thor as being stronger while letting Hulk be the strongest 99% of the time.
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    Wasn't the big thing about Thor's arc about how the power was never in his hammer but himself?
     
    Mental Omega said:
    Wasn't the big thing about Thor's arc about how the power was never in his hammer but himself?
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    Yes but he and Hela both also drew power from the physical location of Asgard, though Hela more so. I'm sure he will still have his lightning powers and be generally more powerful going forward but he's likely been depowered a bit so that the Hulk is more on the same level. Or maybe the Hulk will get a power-up, who knows.
     
    Mook said:
    Yes but he and Hela both also drew power from the physical location of Asgard, though Hela more so. I'm sure he will still have his lightning powers and be generally more powerful going forward but he's likely been depowered a bit so that the Hulk is more on the same level. Or maybe the Hulk will get a power-up, who knows.
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    Well, as far as I know Whedon is no longer involved in the creative process of the MCU, for which I think we can all be eternally grateful.
     
    Mook said:
    Yes but he and Hela both also drew power from the physical location of Asgard, though Hela more so. I'm sure he will still have his lightning powers and be generally more powerful going forward but he's likely been depowered a bit so that the Hulk is more on the same level. Or maybe the Hulk will get a power-up, who knows.
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    Where did they mention that?
     
    Mental Omega said:
    I was pretty surprised that they decided to show Thor as just flat out stronger than Hulk when he's doing his one with the storm thing given Joss Whedon was adamant that "Hulk is strongest there is". From the looks of it, banner would have gone down for the count had Thor gotten another clean hit in.

    Still, this was the best Hulk movie ever made.
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    Strongest Avenger.
    Strongest. Avenger!

    Yeah, who knows who has the highest maximum raw physical strength? We don't have the numbers, and the numbers don't really determine who wins in a fight.
     
    It's important to remember that the Hulk's strength is variable and having what was basically a Pro Wrestling match with Thor likely didn't really give him the same edge he'd have in massive brawls with supervillains.
     
    VolantRedX said:
    It's important to remember that the Hulk's strength is variable and having what was basically a Pro Wrestling match with Thor likely didn't really give him the same edge he'd have in massive brawls with supervillains.
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    Specifically, it increases the angrier he gets. Thor may not have been able to calm him down, but he was still being friendly and at worst mildly irritating rather than actively enraging.
     
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