HymnOfRagnarok said:
Interesting idea Hymn. Most are OP things that I can't allow right now, but they are good for long term projects. Transhumanism by messing with biology (less metal) is something that Enryu could approve and work to. Granted it will take time and resources, and you will not see great results in the immediate future, but they make for good narrative.
HymnOfRagnarok said:
I think the armor idea is feasible, by having a passive and active mode: in the first the armor is formless shinsoo kept inside Enryu's body, in the second it's compressed and materialized outside. Something like
this?
An armory like that it's an armory anymore, but a full laboratory. Possible with a bit of help but I'm sorry to inform you it will be useless in battle: too slow.
Your Devil's Assimilation ability only work on Devil. To be clear when devouring the shinsoo they're made of not everything is converted into pure food, it keeps the skills.
HyperionTW said:
Would it be possible to have one of the Armor's abilities be adaption in response to our needs in combat? For example if we needed to be stronger, creating additional muscle or increasing the efficiency of our strengthening technique.
A limited automatic response to certain threats, like increasing fire-proofing if hits with fire, it's possible, but I advise about giving it free access to Enryu's body, lest it ends with modifications that may be problematic.
HyperionTW said:
I figured that the ability would be aimed towards small but permanent changes to the armor, the idea that armor is working towards perfecting itself.
This is a great idea and I support it.
HymnOfRagnarok said:
Not sure if it's always energy. I think Armor for ToG would normally be in the Armor Inventory, but I think it's lumped under Arms Inventory here. So it can be popped on. I'd have to check though. Or Alex rules.
A normal ToG Armor is like an Arms Inventory, it has an invisible mode and put up when needed. So they are similar but with different functions (storage and defence).
For the minions: many of you only consider the fighting part of the job. Have you forgot about paperwork, or how Enryu, while being capable of detecting when someone is bullshitting him unless the other is very, very good, he isn't so good at diplomacy? Think of the roles Godou's girls have (beside the Harem): Erica is a diplomat, Yuri has the Spirit Vision, Liliana as a witch has some neat tricks while Ena...is a powerhouse. The thing is, sometimes the head-on approach is not the most convenient one. Or do you want Enryu to deal with politics, with information gathering, with handling the aftermaths of his battles all by himself? A secure method to tire oneself out.
Pipeman said:
Positions I'd like to fill are the folllowing:
1. A Divine Ancestor for bringing a decent amount of power that can be used seperate from us to the table and the fact that they posess "insider knowledge" of the gods. Being a moderately powerful one would not be enough to qualify. (Could technically be replaced by having powerful other minions and having a very good minion to fill position 3.)
2. A very skilled mage specializing or at least very proficient in the fields where magic still has advantages over what we can do.
3. Someone with extremely detailed and basically encyclopedic knowledge of heretic gods, so we can easily identify what we're up against.
4. Someone with sufficient connections to Magic Associations to keep them off our backs or deal with them whenever we have to. (Has some obvious possiblities to be combined with 2 and/or 3 into one or two positions.)
5. Someone with sufficient connections to the underground to easily track down cults or artifacts. (Grandfather's organization would be a decent recruitment avenue to find someone for this.)
(Note that, if we find someone who can fill more than one position, I'd have no problem with that whatsoever, but, if we can't find someone good enough to add much to the team, we're better off leaving the position empty until we can.)
This is a very good list. A Divine Ancestor as ally isn't impossible, difficult but not impossible. There may be a suitable occasion, but I will leave the recruiting speech to your guys. Such a prize it's worthless if you don't work for it.
HymnOfRagnarok said:
Will we be able to use our new Enchantment boosts to learning speed and the like to do more each year? We could always use more slots to get shit done and move things ahead of schedule, like Memories of the Void.
Yes thanks to them many fields are now moving way faster.
HymnOfRagnarok said:
How noticeable? A full percent is a noticeable amount if the original odds were sufficiently low. And as I understand it, they'd still have to worry about the Devil rebelling because unlike us, they don't have that perfect control.
And does making a 'compatible' Devil essentially fill an Ability Slot? If so that means it needs to be C-Rank, minimum, and even higher for extra abilities like Regeneration. I imagine a Devil gets harder to control the higher rank it is to boot. The most valuable aspect of it is probably the baangs and myun it bestows. Annie is probably the only person who would get appreciable use out of in the near future and....
Well, I can't help but imagine a Devil being stuck in her, and it licking its metaphorical chops at the bounty before it. Still the best chance, but it's still not striking me as a smart idea. Unless she turns out to count as an Irregular of some kind. Then all bets are off.
It changed from one in a thousand to one in an hundred. I repeat those showed who have a Devil (Enryu, Baam, Horyang) were special.
No it doesn't fill an Ability Slot.
Annie may have more possibilities, with her skills right now the probabilities are still low. It wouldn't kill her, but the bond will fail. And don't think she would be okay with it if the thing isn't safe and secure. Which is not.
HymnOfRagnarok said:
And speaking of Items, a sneaky cheating idea may have occurred to me. Alex would have to confirm whether we could do it but if we can.....hoooo boy, this could be grand. And unfair, but what else is new?
So, a Pocket can interface with us and translate for us, yes? Function much like a computer.
Suppose we made a high level Pocket....and devote its Ability Slots to decoding and recording Memories of the Void.
It probably can't link directly, but Enryu can. All it has to do is grab everything that flows into Enryu's head, decipher it, store it.
If it is possibly, it'd probably be pretty damn hard and would require lots of 'samples' from us to make good 'translations' although these terms probably aren't the terms to use. Frankly, it probably can't catch everything, going by the sheer value of 'What the flipping fuck' going through Enryu's head. But who knows. Maybe it'd be just good enough and help us pick info out and recall it more reliably.
And best of all, we PROBABLY don't need an S-Rank Pocket to do this. We can set our sights lower and likely have enough Ability Slots to burn.
For that the Lighthouse would be better, but I see what you mean. Its functions can be tweaked to work like that, but expect a lot of trials and errors before making something worthwhile . Many of the information from The Memories of the Void are difficult to put into words.
serapheus said:
Uh, that's a possibility. But yes time and, like said, cavies.
Mithril-blade said:
To end the sort of back ad forth between myself and Hymn, do you mind anwsering the following?
-Can diagnostic tools to measure compatibility and the probable survival of any potential Devil infusees be made?
- This is an aside, but can we upgrade our Devil making skill?
- Does costumising Devils to an individual hightens the rank of said Devil?
- And finally, can we make devil Infusion through laborious costumization reasonably safe?
No because they don't exist yet. To make them data from multiple experiments is needed, and Enryu doesn't have it. Horyang and Cassano's bodies were forcefully changed to a more adequate state. If Enryu stay close during the procedure he can senses the changes and interrupt it if things goes south.
-Sure, but it will take time. Years even.
-No, only the possibilities of forming the bonds. Upping the rank up decreases those possibilities.
-Not in the immediate future.
Please understand: Enryu isn't a scientist. He is intelligent enough and has enough Shinsoo control to imitate one and work on things of which he has the, already tested, projects. But he isn't a genius or mad scientist that can make breakthroughs in months or days. For all this things he needs years.
Years.
Other questions you think I didn't answer?
I will first post the Sheet update before the actual chapter, to avoid dumping everything into one place.