- Location
- In The Shadowbear Slave Camp
I mean, they already understand what vampires are. They probably have some basic understanding of what happens when one is starving. Probably.
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The Restless Dead Want YOU To Fight Necromancy
- Thread starter Wysteria
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[X]Yes.
-[X]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[X] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[X]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[X] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[X]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
- Location
- Bologna
"They" as in the government knows what vampires are (and probably has a few of us pretty entrenched in there), but these CDC people found out this morning and got the "basic supernatural stuff rundown", which probably focused more on zombies, necromancers, and sorcerers, rather than vampires (as those are the most immediately relevant to their situation). Vampires were described as serial killers though, which isn't ideal, or pleasant, but probably not inaccurate, unfortunately.
That said, we're in front of them and don't have to compete with a hunter arguing against us. We could also probably use background telepathy to get a better feel on how to handle them.
- Location
- va
[X]Yes.
-[X]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
[X]Yes.
-[X]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[X] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[X]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.Ok,
-[X]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[X] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[X]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.Ok,
- Location
- usa
[X]Yes.
-[X]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[X] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[X]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[X] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[X]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
[ ]Yes.
-[ ] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
-[ ]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[ ] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[ ]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[ ]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
[X] Lady Rowyn
-[ ] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
-[ ]Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[ ] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[ ]Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[ ]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
[X] Lady Rowyn
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DeepWaters
No one will be the wiser.
- Location
- Land of Spiders and Shipping Charts
[] Yes.
-[] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
-[] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
I added the first because it makes our situation a lot more sympathetic if we make it clear that part of the reason why we're so hungry is because we've been helping out.
EDIT: Using LadyRowyn's vote, since it's a slightly more detailed and better-explained version of mine.
[X] Yes.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X] Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
-[] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
-[] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
--[] Draw analogies not to ravaging tigers but, say, low blood sugar?
-[] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
I added the first because it makes our situation a lot more sympathetic if we make it clear that part of the reason why we're so hungry is because we've been helping out.
EDIT: Using LadyRowyn's vote, since it's a slightly more detailed and better-explained version of mine.
[X] Yes.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X] Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
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- Location
- USA
[X] Yes.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
They already think Morgan is an affable serial killer, so I don't think Morgan needs to be too evasive about their nature. OTOH, I don't really want to reinforce the impression of "serial killer" if possible. x_x So my thought is to be honest but emphasize the "all the magic powers are fueled by blood and do not work without a supply plus I can't even give you information if I fall back into torpor" part over the "also I'll eventually get mind-controlled by my own blood lust and eat you all if I keep this up too long without food" part.
Anyway, do want to try to shift the narrative in their minds from "the greedy vampire is extorting us for payment in BLOOD" to "like everybody else, the vampire needs resources in order to be of any use".
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
They already think Morgan is an affable serial killer, so I don't think Morgan needs to be too evasive about their nature. OTOH, I don't really want to reinforce the impression of "serial killer" if possible. x_x So my thought is to be honest but emphasize the "all the magic powers are fueled by blood and do not work without a supply plus I can't even give you information if I fall back into torpor" part over the "also I'll eventually get mind-controlled by my own blood lust and eat you all if I keep this up too long without food" part.
Anyway, do want to try to shift the narrative in their minds from "the greedy vampire is extorting us for payment in BLOOD" to "like everybody else, the vampire needs resources in order to be of any use".
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- Location
- In The Shadowbear Slave Camp
This is fair. Altering my vote to this.
- Location
- Rapidly approaching your location.
- Pronouns
- Any/Morb
Your actions have consequences
[X] Yes.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
Reasonable response. It's the stuff that keeps us going, after all! Obviously, these folks might not have felt the pangs of hunger in their lives.
- Location
- Arizona
[X] Yes.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
Definitely in favor of presenting that we are A: more than willing to work with them on just how we feed, that we can do so without direct contact with the donor, B: we are not being proprietary about the ritual, if we can present enough information that their own magic folk can repeat it then that is a very good thing as far as we are concerned, and C: we view *everyone* surviving the night to be the ideal outcome. We don't want anyone to die, either to the zombie infection or feeding us. Although maybe not quite so blatant on the last one. If they think of us as a serial killer then waving that in their face will probably just reinforce it.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
Definitely in favor of presenting that we are A: more than willing to work with them on just how we feed, that we can do so without direct contact with the donor, B: we are not being proprietary about the ritual, if we can present enough information that their own magic folk can repeat it then that is a very good thing as far as we are concerned, and C: we view *everyone* surviving the night to be the ideal outcome. We don't want anyone to die, either to the zombie infection or feeding us. Although maybe not quite so blatant on the last one. If they think of us as a serial killer then waving that in their face will probably just reinforce it.
- Location
- Jersey
[X] Yes.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
You must fill up the tank if you want to run the high powered EMZ Safety Engine.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
You must fill up the tank if you want to run the high powered EMZ Safety Engine.
- Location
- Bologna
Ok, Normally I am all about honesty and clear communication, but this is going a few steps too far in my opinion.
We are, before anything else, a predator. They are, before anything else, our prey. We are doing them a pretty big favour here, but we still are more powerful than them, they have no rights over us. This is the government of a species we hunt, they will grasp the opportunity to "protect themselves" from the threat we pose if we give them such a big opening.
Mentioning the Torpor thing translates to "Here, I'll help you in such a way that you will not need my help in the future (we're letting them film the ritual), and I will also reveal that if you don't pay me for the help I'm going to pass out and stop being a problem, never eating a human again! I really hope you pay me, because I'm not demanding it or anything, hehe"
I know I'm exagerating a bit here, but that is how I really believe humans work, especially since the current situation means fear of the unknown and survival instincts are the foremost motivators.
Let's present this as much as possible as a transaction, not submission.
DeepWaters
No one will be the wiser.
- Location
- Land of Spiders and Shipping Charts
I disagree with the details of your reasoning, though not trusting the intentions of the government when it comes to the well-being of vampires is a pretty good rule of thumb. That said, the explanation we're presenting is for the mundanes we're currently interacting with. The government should already know about torpor-- and blood rages, for that matter. If they've been studying and/or experimenting on vampires, one of the first things they should have learned about was the blood rage, and the first thing they should have learned right after that is torpor. They aren't exactly subtle or hard to trigger.
If the government gets anything new out of this (and that's assuming the mundanes either volunteer the information or some agent takes the time to ask, despite being in the middle of a national emergency), it's that vampires require blood to perform magic and that we're tactful enough to try spinning our situation in a way to make our potential blood donors less nervous.
If the government gets anything new out of this (and that's assuming the mundanes either volunteer the information or some agent takes the time to ask, despite being in the middle of a national emergency), it's that vampires require blood to perform magic and that we're tactful enough to try spinning our situation in a way to make our potential blood donors less nervous.
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avatar11792
Et Sic Incipit
- Location
- Planet Earth, North America
[X] Yes.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
- Location
- USA
Yeah, I'm with DeepWaters here. I don't trust the US government either, but Morgan is in a town full of vampire hunters. If folks don't already know about torpor, it's gonna be REAL EASY for them to find out. Morgan's not trying to win over the whole government, just the people in their immediate vicinity.
Presenting Morgan as a predator or a mercenary is just going to reinforce the "affable serial killer" stereotype. Morgan's biggest problem now is the zombie apocalypse and the necromancer that caused it; they need to stop the zombie apocalypse, or at the very least, protect their own little part of the world from the worst effects of it. Making the humans around Morgan distrust and fear them because of their power and need for blood ain't gonna help with any of that.
47. Nerds Gotta Nerd
- Location
- USA
[X] Yes.
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
Saturday 12 May 2001
11:20 PM
Willpower: 2/4 (fine)
Hunger: -12/-30 (very hungry)
Spirit: 6.9
-[X] Explain that you haven't been able to pursue quenching your thirst as much as you should, since you'd gotten busy trying to help with the zombie apocalypse soon after you woke up and using magic makes you even hungrier.
--[X] Specifically: your power is fueled by blood. You literally CANNOT do this for very long without eating.
---[X] "I'm not going to be able to help anyone if I fall back into starvation-induced torpor."
-[X] Make it clear that you're asking because working with injured people while ravenously hungry is not ideal.
-[X] Point out, as politely as possible and only if possible to do tactfully, that if any of them have not made recent donations, they could get some blood drawn real quick to at least quench a BIT of your thirst.
-[X]Mention that using animal blood as supplement is acceptable, though you'll need quite a bit more of it.
Saturday 12 May 2001
11:20 PM
Willpower: 2/4 (fine)
Hunger: -12/-30 (very hungry)
Spirit: 6.9
"Yes, of course. I'm just not going to do anyone any good if I fall over in a faint, now am I?"
You glance over the gayly painted cafeteria, counting. Twenty-one victims, you make it, which means this will have to be a ritual of three and eight. You can throw a few healthy people in the mix to make up the numbers.
"I believe I'll set up in the middle here?"
"That's right. Vampires can faint?" asks Marj.
"Just as anyone will if you forget to eat for a while." Or are busy sleeping. "Things have been hectic for everyone."
"And you can't go grab a pastry from a vending machine," Nina acknowledges. "I don't know…."
"In the interest of this ritual not taking more out of me than it has to, perhaps someone here might be persuaded to volunteer?" you ask, kneeling on the floor and beginning to draw out your preliminary lines in white chalk against bright green concrete. A three-pointed star within a massive circle, with one large circle in the middle for you, connecting everything.
"I'll ask," Nina says, "But anyone says no, I'm not asking twice."
She heads off to do just that, asking those sitting and lying around the room if they'll volunteer to get their blood drawn for the cause.
"You don't have much shame, do you," Marj comments.
You don't look up from your drawing.
"I've never found it useful, no. I'm much more civilized if I've eaten something, in any case."
That gets a somewhat chilly silence, but you're busy drawing and it doesn't matter, does it? Nina's already started looking for volunteers.
"Animal blood works fine," you add. Maybe you care a little what she thinks of you.
"I don't usually keep that in my purse," she says.
"So everyone keeps telling me, it's very inconvenient."
She snorts.
"I'm not opening a vein for you, Morgan."
"That's fine. It would make things easier, but I'll manage."
You always do.
Now, it so happens that you haven't actually designed the ritual you're about to put together. You brought items with general symbolism of purification, healing, cleansing, longevity, your zombie head in its bag to symbolize zombies, and your ritual tools.
You're certain you can do it, of course. You might have to try a few times if it doesn't work the first time, admittedly….
The crux of the matter is approaching it from the correct direction.
[]The dark energy is bound to the wounds with a curse. Break it.
[]Necromantic energy can be controlled. Command it.
[]Everything comes to blood. Channel the power within yours. Overwhelm it.
[]Write-in
- Location
- Rapidly approaching your location.
- Pronouns
- Any/Morb
Man this strangely feels like the ending of ME3.
Destroying the curse feels the most reasonable and safe. We don't want to deal with necromancy since it'll freak others out even more, and blood stuff will likely take more blood than they are going to offer.
@Wysteria wait, if we channel our blood to overwhelm the curse, wouldn't they all have our blood? That would be terrible!
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- Location
- USA
Channeled through the ritual it won't create any new bonds or vampires.
I'll also go ahead and say that nowhere in Morgan's calculations are how the ritual will look to others. The aesthetics will not be noticeably less creepy for any option.
Barondoctor
The things I chase come to me.
- Location
- The other side of the mirror
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
Eight?
Three times eight is...twenty-four still, right? Unless we're then subtracting the three back out later, but I'd think seven would be a more magical number anyway?
Not sure if it matters, but when I saw that and then "ritual calculations"
- Location
- USA
Morgan's magic numbers are three, five, and eight. Morgan is planning to loop a few healthy people in for a full 24.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
[X]The Dark Energy runs through them like stagnent rivers. Twist the flow to Subvert it.
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