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The moon rising- A Gwyndolin CK2 quest.

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A good turn all round, now we have to deal with the rewards of a job well done: More work! :D

[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

It's not like we were ever gonna be on their good side, might as well show the sunlight warriors we're sincere in things being different than before.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

Regrettably, a lot of early medical science was acquired through horrific deeds, and while not all of it was necessary, the information has already been gained. Hopefully the good deeds we'll perform from this knowledge will one day outweigh the evil deeds used to get it.

[X] Burn it. No risks will be taken, not so early into your reign- there will not be another Seath on your watch.

If the insanity Seath fell to was due to the primeval stone which all crystal sorcery is derived from, then the whole school of magic is a wash. Better to burn it and learn from scratch then to fall into the same doomed path.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
Doctor Elsewhere said:
If the insanity Seath fell to was due to the primeval stone which all crystal sorcery is derived from, then the whole school of magic is a wash.
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I'm not the best at dark souls lore but I think it was more what Seath did with the crystal instead of anything corruptive about the crystal itself.

Didn't he literally bond himself with the crystal so he couldn't die as long as the crystal was intact? And it was turning his body into crystal? I think if we skip that part we should be good.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
so in this quest the first born isn't the nameless king (not sure if that is a fan theory or what else I know some people think it)
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Burn it. No risks will be taken, not so early into your reign- there will not be another Seath on your watch.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
Thanatosra said:
so in this quest the first born isn't the nameless king (not sure if that is a fan theory or what else I know some people think it)
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It's all but outright said, but I mean, the nameless king doesn't have a name so I had to come up with one. Though I will be dialing back his dragon love and weird actions form DKS3 to make a little more sense since they dont exactly match the profile of the sunbros and the seeming love he had for his father.
 
from what I remember Seth was insane long before the crystal (evidenced in part by his experiments before the crystal) and it seems that the crystal only amplified the existing.

the most evidence there is for the crystal/crystal sorcery leading to insanity is logan who through evidence can be surmised was not a hollow when it came to going insane and attacking us ( and it is theorized that he had something similar to the insanity caused by insight in bloodborne).
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.
[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.
[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Burn it. No risks will be taken, not so early into your reign- there will not be another Seath on your watch.

I don't know if it was the Crystalmagic that drove Seath mad or if he always was like that, but I do know that it drove Big Hat Logan mad. So no thank you to madness in stoneform.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Burn it. No risks will be taken, not so early into your reign- there will not be another Seath on your watch.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
Looks like we're founding a new church, gaining a understanding of fleshcrafting, and our mages will get a major boost.

Downsides are the city that doesn't like us doesn't like us more, and we need to keep a eye on the mad science and casters for make sure there aren't any bad influences.

I'd say we need to form some kind of inquisition to keep watch for warning signs but that's kinda what we already are, right?
 
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[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.

It's a turn that made a lot of things feel really easy, but only because we ended up rolling an 83, a 73, an 85, a 95, and an 81 all in one turn, the chances of that happening again are pretty low. That we played into some bonuses we have was also smart, but there's really no guarantee we'll be this lucky going forward. Our other stuff barely passed even with those bonuses.

Going forward, I think the first option for the Sun Bros is good, give them the sort of info they want even if Gwyndolin feels awkward about it. Awkward doesn't mean it's a bad thing, he's just socially anxious, which we can work to manage.

The knowledge from the archives is very useful and the most important thing with dangerous knowledge is to keep it out of the wrong hands, so we just need to make sure we don't go down an evil rabbit hole ourselves and that we don't let the knowledge be stolen by anyone else. If we can manage both of those, there's nothing wrong with keeping it.
 
Just found this, and I'm pleased to see it. Dark Souls doesn't really get enough love in stories and quests, and I enjoyed the previous one with Gwyn in ancient Greece quite a bit. Slightly saddened I missed the vote though, since it closed just a couple hours before I noticed the quest, but it seems like people are pretty much on the wavelength as me anyway.
 
[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
Well i believe this was good outcome, Gwendolyn was associated with Moon and Magic in Dark souls anyways, so him going all on magic feels like a right direction, this may even transform Anor Londo into new seat of magic study now that Seths research is secured and to some measure open i see magicians/sorcerer's flocking to Anor Londo, so maybe we get an option to open school of magic .

A new image and start, something Anor Londo desperately needs in it's current situation of abandoned, especially since this could make them truly competitive to Quen Londo (filthy deserters/traitors).

Otherwise, when it comes to pissing them of some more and going back on Gwyins policies, well we can always change our Dragon policy as well, this paired with restoring his name would bring back Nameless King back into the fold as a God of War, potentially even Orenstein with him.
 
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[X] "His name was Aegwyn." Massive morale boost for sunlight warriors, chance to make a proper church for your brother. Sunlight warriors increase numbers faster. Piss off Quen Londo even more.

[X] Keep it. The suffering had already happened. You can make sure it doesn't happen again under your guidance.

[X] Keep it. Surely the sorceries themselves are safe? As long as you don't delve deeper into the mysteries of crystal you will likely be fine.
 
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