The indomitable human spirit vs a galaxy of angst! A warhammer 40k human god quest.

Odin seeing the woe of his people, brought gifts to the tired warriors, not of weapons but of merry to remind them that even as winter is cold and hard, the warmth will come.

To the dishonorable and the cowardly and upon those who have fallen out of favor, he gifted coal, for he was wise and any man worth the coal, would know it can keep many warm in the Winter. All they need to do, is sit by the hearth to share it.
 
Maybe after this, we should be a little more iron fisted with religions not a part of our Pantheon, considering how everyone else failed to Chaos. So, DEUS VULT time. No more nordic stuff, no pagan religions. Just us and our kids.
 
Maybe after this, we should be a little more iron fisted with religions not a part of our Pantheon, considering how everyone else failed to Chaos. So, DEUS VULT time. No more nordic stuff, no pagan religions. Just us and our kids.
nah that just sounds like a good way to fall into the "purge everything and anything that is not like us" pit that the imperium did, that and it does not fit at all with the Wine and gifts convert strategy our religions have or make much sense for our god to just suddenly go "kill the unbeliever's"

should we set something up to stop something like this or least make it less effective tactic for chaos to do in the future? yes absolutely.

should we start forcing people to convert or die out of shear paranoia that any religion not our own is a chaos puppet/bait? I sure as hell don't think so.
 
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Maybe after this, we should be a little more iron fisted with religions not a part of our Pantheon, considering how everyone else failed to Chaos. So, DEUS VULT time. No more nordic stuff, no pagan religions. Just us and our kids.
To be fair, we still have no idea what's going on over in the Americas or Australia, and our news about South Africa and East Asia is rather limited, while we'd be very clearly seeing invasion forces if those two had fallen to Chaos. I think the non-us religions are mostly fine.
If anything, what it seems we'd really want to do is put some more work into adopting the gods from those pantheons to make sure they're growing up healthy and non-Chaotic while getting ourselves more help.
 
Now I wonder how our brother ended up in this situation.
That is actually a very good question. Our contact with him went silent for some time before things went pear shaped.

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To be fair, we still have no idea what's going on over in the Americas or Australia, and our news about South Africa and East Asia is rather limited, while we'd be very clearly seeing invasion forces if those two had fallen to Chaos. I think the non-us religions are mostly fine.
If anything, what it seems we'd really want to do is put some more work into adopting the gods from those pantheons to make sure they're growing up healthy and non-Chaotic while getting ourselves more help.
Agreed.

Actually thinking on it Gold Bro may like the Chinese philosophy that approaches the immaterial as something to be understood and properly utilized rather than revered blindly without reason. Hell they viewed gods as celestial bureaucrats and social services with the job of keeping reality running smoothly, and demons were spiritual entities that mucked things up for everyone. At least I think that was the case, I could be wrong.
 
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Agree to disagree. Yeah some gods can stay, but for sure some have to go. If a god wants living sacrifices, condones cannibalism, and incest/orgies? They gotta go inter incinerator.

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Actually thinking on it Gold Bro may like the Chinese philosophy that approaches the immaterial as something to be understood and properly utilized rather than revered blindly without reason. Hell they viewed gods as celestial bureaucrats and social services with the job of keeping reality running smoothly, and demons were spiritual entities that mucked things up for everyone. At least I think that was the case, I could be wrong.
Okay. I like that idea more than I thought i would. It's kinda funny and is painfully true. M3 China irl is kinda a mess so hopefully we can make it not so in quest.
 
Maybe after this, we should be a little more iron fisted with religions not a part of our Pantheon, considering how everyone else failed to Chaos. So, DEUS VULT time. No more nordic stuff, no pagan religions. Just us and our kids.
Yeah about that . . . We kind of need those other religions in order to get for lack of a better phrase (god seeds) to make more of our kids Ssoo . . .


Things had been getting quite dire so far, the armies of the faithful falling in droves for every scrap of land gained. Ground was being won, but would there be any left to live on it by the time the war was over?

Every resource had been utilized, every scrap put to use, except for one...

"Where the FUCK is he!?"

You kneaded your non-existent face to relieve the somehow existent tension, scouring the land for any trace of your brother. For the one that always seemed to go fist first, he was suspiciously absent from the greatest war in all human history!

Finally after months of using what little spare time you had to look, you felt a burst of his presence and immediately tugged on it. A connection was luckily made, as you began to be able to hear and speak to him.

"Hey, golden-boy, what's the big dea-" You paused, as you immediately began to hear the clashing of blades and inhumane screeches.* "Are you STILL beating up an alien on Mars?"

The reply was immediate and frustrated, yet also clearly distant due to a split focus.* "NOT- RIGHT- NOW!"

"Yes right now! I've got people dying in the tens of thousands daily over here and your nowhere in sight, what the hell are you-"

"I'M A LITTLE BUSY AT THE MOMENT!"

You froze, finally getting the connection stable enough to properly see him. Then you froze again, because your brother was standing on a large pile of daemon corpses in the middle of a frozen wasteland. "Oh. Shit."

"I HAVE BEEN KILLING WARP SPAWN AT THE NORTH POLE, FOR SEVERAL MONTHS!"

"Yeah uh...I can see that."

"So until I close this portal, CLOSE YOUR MOUTH!"

"Rude, but noted. I'll just uh...get back to the war, have fun. Love you!"

You watched him grumble as he sliced a bloodletter clean in half, then right before you cut the connection-

"Hmmph...love you too. Moron."

WAIT THERE'S A FREAKING WARPRIFT IN THE NORTH POLE?
When did that even appear and how did we not feel reality getting torn a new one?

. . . Also was that us calling him a moron or him calling us a moron?
 
Yeah about that . . . We kind of need those other religions in order to get for lack of a better phrase (god seeds) to make more of our kids Ssoo . . .
that was like the sorta non-sentient god stuffs. I mean the sentient ones that are all kinds of fucked. I also think we were given the option to absorb the gods stuff? I mean, too many kids and we become another Zeus or something.
 
Listen, we haven't had contact with other sapient gods. The Aeldari gods just didn't notice us, and the Chaos gods are still basically asleep. There's no evidence that the local Chaos corruption has any connection to local religions and a good deal more that it just came in through the Plague.
If we actually meet other 'real' gods eventually, we will have to make our decisions then, but there's no reason to make a hard pivot from 'we will ply you with gifts and show off our advancedness to convince you to convert' over to 'we will force you to convert at swordpoint' when at this point we can show objective benefits to worshiping Hagal and co rather than whatever barely-there human gods people were previously worshiping.
 
I still don't like it. Don't get me wrong- I never said we should poke the chaos or eldari gods. They'd fold us like a lawn chair if they notice us. I just want us to tombstone and suplex evil earth gods, because those ABSOLUTELY exist, then steal their stuff for our own ends.
 
We will figure out how to deal with the Aztecs later, assuming our followers don't decide for themselves to wipe them out as crypto-Khornates. But this really isn't much of an issue.
 
Dawn or Dusk?
Your talk with Odin was something you'd desperately needed, something that for just a moment allowed you to forget about the threats scratching at the walls. You gave him a big hug (as per usual) before eventually relenting as his neutral expression shifted to one of slight annoyance.

"Father. You need not do that *every* time."

"Of course I do, it's mandatory! Cause I mandated it!"

"That's not how th-... nevermind. It is indeed good to see you, without your constant distractions I was getting too productive."

You rolled your eyes, before pausing and actually looking at something that had been nagging at your senses. "Kiddo did you...you made a DIVINE REALM!?"

"Yes, upon noticing the increasing amount of 'Khorne' followers, along with their inherent attachment to bloodshed, I decided to be productive and make a countermeasure."

He gestured towards a seemingly endless series of feasting halls and battle-pits, the smallest hint of pride in his eyes as he did so. "Those who worship us and thirst for battle have their souls go here, a recreation of the mortal concept of 'Valhalla'. This robe the Hound of souls and power, as no longer will he gain strength from *all* who do war."

You were flabbergasted, taking a moment to process it before patting Odin on the shoulder. "This is...it's amazing, I'm proud of you son...more then you can possibly imagine."

Odins blank expression shifted, as his mouth twitched upwards into a grin until he swiftly brought himself back into neutrality. "Thank you father, it is all in service to you."

You chuckled. "How about you do me some service by shaving that beard then? You'll never meet a nice girl by looking like you crawled out of a bush!"

"Father please."

"Apollo at least keeps his styled, you meanwhile have a badger nesting on your chin!"

"I hate you so much right now."

Odin has constructed his own small afterlife of sorts, where warriors souls go in waiting in order to weaken the Hound. Yet he has another suggestion in mind, to merge Valhalla with your realm in order to make an 'Army of souls'.

You are uncertain how such a thing would work, while being certain it would definitely attract all kinds of attention. It would also put a strain on future developments of the afterlife, seeing as this army would be most likely high in maintenance. Still, the idea seems tempting...

Eventually you elected to-

[ ] Merge the realms- the army of Souls will be made, for when the time comes.

[ ] Leave well enough alone- The forming of such a thing would be laborious, while also poking some bears...



The following years were harrowing, as Europe burned and the world at large found itself in an upheaval. It would take years to be rid of all the cultists, years in which thousands upon thousands of men from Africa, Asia, and the middle east would perish in order to reclaim each inch of ground.

Innovations were made, ways to fight and purge the taint, along with more mundane advancements in war. Eventually peace would come, yet the reward was the greatest amount of deaths in all recorded history by far. An entire continent nearly emptied out of life, it's remaining people's permanently scarred and traumatized by what needed to be done in order to survive.

The lands loyal to the Caretaker found themselves in a period of mourning, while in the America's knowledge of the 'Old world' and a war that nearly consumed all brings about terror along with numerous societal changes.

It will take *hundreds* of years to rebuild, but...that they have that chance at all is enough to be thankful for. You weep at the state of your children, but these tears are felt by them as a comforting rain that washes away their suffering at last.

Your *true* children meanwhile, whisper and plot among themselves as they think on ways to safeguard humanity, thinking on how to prevent this from ever happening again. Such thoughts do not have much time to develop however, as you feel a *lurch* in your very being.

Dread creeps in, as you know this feeling.

Another great sleep is soon to come.

They, understandably, did *not* take the news well. Odin stewed behind the others as he descended into analytics, Apollo was angry at the universe, while Isis...

"How bad will it be?"

"I will essentially fall into a coma, for how long I'm uncertain...could be thousands of years."

She let out a deep breath, her expression falling with every word that came from your mouth. "I don't know if we can keep any of this going without you..."

"You already have kiddo, if it weren't for you three humanity as we know it would be gone. It doesn't matter how well we lead our armies, if the people we fight for die of sickness and taint. You made a difference, remember that."

She chuckled as tears gathered in her eyes. "I'm...I'm going to miss you."

"I won't be dead princess, just...asleep. I'll even have some moments of awareness once in a blue moon, and I WILL be back eventually."

She merely nodded, hugging you before continuing to talk through her tears. "I know we're not a normal family, but I love you dad, even when your not here. I love your empathy, I love your stupid jokes, and I love your trust."

"Two out of three there kiddo, the jokes are awesome and you know it."

"I know you'll never stop until I agree, so sure."

"I'll take it."

With that, you let out a sigh of relief. Gesturing for the others to come over, you began to talk not as a war council, but as a family. The kids were growing up fast, already so different and showing interests beyond your own. You found yourself at a crossroads on that part, eventually deciding to-

[ ] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[ ] Reign them in- Have them focus only on maintaining the course, something that will be especially necessary in the times to come.



You finally had some alone time, until of course, reality burst your bubble again. This time it was that presence from earlier, the Aeldari divinity knocking upon your mind like one would a door. You took time to note that also much like a door, this presence could have just broken down your mind and rooted through it with some effort.

The fact it didn't gave whatever it was *some* points, that along with you not having much time meant you decided to go ahead and speak with them. Immediately your presence shifted, moved into a new space of the immaterium far beyond what you'd explored. It was a garden of such beauty you struggled to describe it even when looking right at it's graceful form, alien flora and fauna in such a verdant state you could hardly take your eyes off of it.

You did eventually, as you were roused from your admiration by another.

"I'm glad to see you can recognize the beauty of nature, it shows a certain kind of mentality I find many lack."

You turned, your gaze falling onto the lady that had apparently summoned you. She was tall and lithe, to a degree that seemed unnatural to you. Her skin was light as a blooming lily, while her long curling hair was a shade of red that brought to mind a field of roses. Eventually it clicked, and you understood that before you was Isha, the mother goddess of the Aeldari.

"I see that you recognize me as well, at the very least you have the mind needed to be curious." Her voice was graceful above all else, carrying along to one's ears like a spring breeze through a grove.

You looked down at yourself for a bit, looking at your own form and admittedly feeling a tad self conscious. Hers was like a great work of art, while you seemed like the work of a hobbyist. Still, you found yourself enjoying the 'plain' image, it meant you could appeal to many more then you could otherwise. The color of your skin, hair, or eyes was irrelevant, especially in comparison to what you sought to represent.

Such thinking was brought to a halt as you remembered that you were meeting with an incredibly powerful alien goddess, with you finally speaking up in a neutral tone. "Curiosity is one of the defining traits of my children, one of my favorites."

Upon hearing your words Isha smiled, a flash of...understanding...passing across her eyes. "My children were in many ways just as curious during their beginning, so eager to learn and discover." She seemed wistful and nostalgic, for an era that preceded your birth by thousands of years.

It reminded you of the events leading up to this. "I must ask, why have you brought me here? I have nothing to offer you." Some would consider it foolish to say such a thing in a conversation, but he would rather be honest then struck down for false promises.

Isha merely smiled again, this one much more faint and laced with some form of bitterness.* "Oh but I'm afraid you do, you are a survivor. No other race besides ours in all my years of knowledge has ever overcome a true chaotic incursion, especially by multiple of the 3."

She moved to sit on nothing, but before you could even open your mouth in alarm a tree spontaneously grew in the perfect form of a natural chair beneath her. "It's a special kind of thing, the will to push on. It lays inherently in all life, yet in some it is much more apparent." Her gaze fell upon you know, heavy with emotions you could not fully decipher. "There is a storm approaching, far in the distance for now."

You had no idea what she spoke off, until you could remember the odd draining of faith you'd sensed earlier in your investigations of the Aeldari. "You believe chaos will grow in strength?"

"It is *always* growing in strength."

"Why tell me this then? Why not plan with your pantheon instead of a stranger?"

She pursed her lips, staring at a nearby field of flowers in a bid to seemingly ease her mind. "I have...strained my relationship with the others, my desire to stay connected with my children goes against many of their view's. Much frustration and anger brews among them, they cannot agree on hardly anything now let alone strategize."

You could tell there was more there, but made the choice to refrain from pushing. "What about me then? What makes *me* any different?"

She paused, stewing in thought before speaking firmly. "You have the empathy and respect for life necessary for me to believe pitching this bargain is possible in the first place, along with the record showing you can do what I'd ask of you."

"...That being?"

She sighed, sadness entering her expression for the first time. "My children grow distant, their worship focused on *other* things. They throw themselves into debauchery, then renounce me when I do not abide by it." The ultimate frustration, something you could empathize with. "I believe in time there will come a reckoning that will bring great ruin to the galaxy, and even in this state I REFUSE to abandon my children. Some of them, a small minority, hold fast to their true selves."

Her hand trembled for but a second, as she quickly centered herself in a desire to show no weakness. "Of this minority only a fraction will likely make it, beyond unacceptable for obvious reasons. I...need you to shield them, to be there when I no longer can."

You were taken aback, unable to reply for what felt like the longest time. "How...why...what do you think I could possibly do that you couldn't?"

"The 3 would never expect it, you can use that surprise to blindside them. You are also, unfortunately...the only one I believe who would even ponder this bargain."

She was right with that one at least, your brother would certainly have some words about this... "Say I did accept, what would I gain from this?"

Isha became calm again, the act of negotiation being something she could use to mask her emotions. "By protecting this small enclave, you would naturally learn from them over time our peoples secrets." She shuddered at this but kept going. "It would be an obvious boon to your people, in exchange you would have to devote attention into keeping them alive."

No easy task, especially as you were now. Could you really afford to pull something like this? Not to mention the reaction your brother would have when he found out...well, *if* he found out.

"I'm assuming this would have to be a secret for the both of us?"

"The others would hand me back over to Khaine for certain if they found out, but if my worries prove true...you will not have to worry about them."

A chill went up your spine, and ominous sensation that left you filled with dread. "I'll...I'll think on it."

With that, you quickly moved back to your own domain, sinking into a deep pit of worry. What the fuck was going to happen that got one of the *AELDARI* scared to this extent? If the scale was as big as they said, it would most likely affect mankind as well...

You just wished you had more time, but as exhaustion set in you knew there was none remaining. A choice had to be made, before the Sleep took you once more.

[ ] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...

[ ] leave them to their fate- You couldn't afford to expand what would likely be a large chunk of energy on a different species, especially now of all times...

Either way, you found your eyes drooping as your awareness dimmed. All that could be done now, was to hope the choices made would be ones you wouldn't have to mourn when you woke.



AN: Wrote this all up at 2 in the morning, cause my muse is a real ass sometimes. In brighter news, you can finally vote again in this quest, a format that's centered around the concept of voting!

We're finally reaching the big shit lads, strap in your seatbelts and be wary.
 
Aye welcome back man, here are my votes.

[X] Merge the realms- the army of Souls will be made, for when the time comes.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...

Who knows to be honest, we could on there gain traits that in the long run will help us, Chaos is a universal process that no matter what keeps growing. We really are gonna need this edge, who knows maybe Kane will give us a weapon down the line.

I do wonder what happened to the emperor though.
 
[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...

Unsure about realm merging
 
@b0ggletov about Odin's choice… if it isn't too much to ask, is the suggestion for his afterlife merging with ours something he thinks we want to hear, or something he sincerely wants? Is it desire or purely logic that drives the suggestion? Would he be happier if we said yes, or no?

About our children, well… we've always pushed them to innovate. They have each other and our brother- I'm sure it'll end up okay in the end. We're hope and progress- innovation and progression, change for the sake of racing for a better day… that's all part and parcel for our nature. We can trust them. And preservation alone was what got the Imperium into its fate without us.

The Aeldarii… well. We are hope. I say we go for it. Contest the pull of Slaanesh with thousands of years of effort and precedence. With the consent and permission of their very mother. Besides, if we can make that work out? Imagine Big E with wraithbone, better psytech, better psionic techniques, loyal Aeldarii warriors who have our protection when drawing on The Warp! Not to mention the genetic secrets or brother can divine from both their genetics and their own scientific understandings!

If Isha survives this time like she did last time, we'd have not only an easier time reaching her for rescue, but possibly an excuse to make her part of our Pantheon as well in the aftermath of a possible rescue attempt. Overall there's so many benefits… but I'm something of an optimist. So I'm sure there's plenty of narrative negatives In missing. But overall, I say try out. Go for it. Just hope our brother understands and accepts it. After all, we are his loving moron of a brother, even if we wish we could help him more… hopefully he'll accept it and just try to make use of it, rather than be upset with us over it.

Besides, she's gorgeous. A fitting girl for our brother, eh? Heh… he'd hate us for taking such a thing but it would be amazing to see his face if we implied that that was one of the reasons.
 
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[X] Merge the realms- the army of Souls will be made, for when the time comes.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...
 
Ok so obviously we encourage our kids. Can't be any worse than canon 40k. Might need a character sheet on what each of them can do as well as ourselves.

On the subject of merging the realms, what does that entail exactly? Sure Valhalla would merge with our peaceful afterlife (I forgot what it does exactly, but I think it is a place where souls can spend eternity in peace?) and it would get a swell of souls from our older afterlife that we can use to make a bigger spiritual army. We are going to need that army to contest the Daemon hordes so I am fine with merging the realms.

What I am curious about is what could we get if we didn't merge the realms? If we merge, we could have every one of our fighters be like Samurai Jack, trained in all different types of disciplines and can improve through a wealth of experience. Viking sparring against Greek Hoplites or Knights against Samurai or Yumi Archer against Longbowman.

As for the Eldar, we did make being a good person a tenet of our religion. So I am all for saving the Eldar just because we have a chance to save more lives.

[X] Merge the realms- the army of Souls will be made, for when the time comes.

[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...
 
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[X] Merge the realms- the army of Souls will be made, for when the time comes.

[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...
 
[X] Merge the realms- the army of Souls will be made, for when the time comes.

[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...

The way in how we will succeed is by being an actual good dad to our kids which is what coutures do many things to go wrong in 40k most of the time.
 
[X] Leave well enough alone- The forming of such a thing would be laborious, while also poking some bears...

[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...

I'd rather not do the realm merge considering it was mentioned that future developments of our afterlife could be crippled, attract attention of thing's we wouldn't be the best shape to deal with considering our powernap and seeing as the army would be high maintenance at the same time as we are trying to save some eldar which will also take a huge chunk of that energy i think would be a bit too much at once.
 
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[X] Leave well enough alone- The forming of such a thing would be laborious, while also poking some bears...

[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...
 
[X] Merge the realms- the army of Souls will be made, for when the time comes.

[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...
 
If we're not trying to save the Eldar, merging would be a great idea, but I really want to try to save them, and since this option is explicitly expensive, I think it's better not to merge, because we would be incurring two huge expenses, with possible bad attention when we're already trying to win the biggest bet of the Warp in thousands of years.

[X] Leave well enough alone- The forming of such a thing would be laborious, while also poking some bears...

[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.

[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...
 
[X] Leave well enough alone- The forming of such a thing would be laborious, while also poking some bears...
[X] Encourage them- Push them to work on their own goals and desires, results will...vary, but they all have good intentions.
[X] Attempt to save some Aeldari from 'the end'- A large investment, an even larger gamble, but to think of the rewards...
 
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