The indomitable human spirit vs a galaxy of angst! A warhammer 40k human god quest.

Are we really sure the rebellion was caused by Chaos's influence though? Or at least only by Chaos's influence?

Well we have seen chaos corrupted men of iron and a chaos demigod that's really good at corrupting technology in Vashtorr the Arkifane,

we've also seen Al's that can exercise demons with cold hard logic I'm not even joking
(I'm referring to The Tabula Myriad when I say that if anyone's curious)
as well as things like phase iron the gellar bomb and MECHANIVORES THAT EAT BOTH REAL SPACE AND WARP SPACE and humanity even may or may not have had Hexagrammic and pentagrammic wards back then

Well chaos no doubt ran amok during the cybernetic revolt it's reasonably likely they were just another straw that helped to eventually break humanities back even if a particularly big one

(For the record I'm not opposed to createing AI Gods I just wanted to point a few things out)
I don't the cybernetic revolt happens because of chaos, I think the Men of Iron turned of humanity either because they think they are superior than humanity, or because they somehow know about chaos influencing humanity and decided to wipe out humanity in to starve the chaos gods
 
I don't the cybernetic revolt happens because of chaos, I think the Men of Iron turned of humanity either because they think they are superior than humanity, or because they somehow know about chaos influencing humanity and decided to wipe out humanity in to starve the chaos gods
I think it was the latter thing, maybe together with something corrupting them, possibly something mundane in nature.
 
I think it was the latter thing, maybe together with something corrupting them, possibly something mundane in nature.
Maybe some kind of supercomputer found out about the chaos gods, decided to take things into its own hands, and proceeded to to take over every kind of AI there is
 
Maybe some kind of supercomputer found out about the chaos gods, decided to take things into its own hands, and proceeded to to take over every kind of AI there is
Either way, I feel like another thing would be that humanity can't be reliant on Men of Stone, Iron and Gold, basically AI, to do a lot of their stuff. Like STC, it is a thing because the high tech started to become super complicated that normal humans could not keep up.
 
I did not read the book but if he didn't, then he was total fucking dick across Great Crusade and to many of his sons. I think what he had are remains and he went over the edge when Horus killed his friend.
My understanding of it is the emperor basically fell into a self-fulfilling prophecy due to his foresight if I remember correctly
(what I'm about to say could very well be wrong)
his personal talent for futuresight allows him to much more easily see the most likely futures
but he has much more difficulty seeing how to bring about the futures he wants and avoid the ones he doesn't

I think big e actually explains it better to one of his custodies ( ra I think their name was ) but the short and sweet is he can see the future he wants and see the futures he wants to avoid as well as generally tell how close these futures are to either coming into fruition or being lost forever

But whenever he tries to use his futuresight to actually see how to get to or avoid these futures the paths are in constant extreme flux with possible choices that could be made
(and possible interference from chaos)

So Big E basically decided to hell with it and tried to bum rush the Galaxy so he could unite it before those bad end futures could come to be and before chaos could do it's thing and his golden path was lost forever

Hence why Big E seem to have been in such a rush during the Great crusade and why he treated some of his sons the way he did his futuresight show him that least some of his sons no matter what he tries would betray him his treatment of them was him simply trying to change the probability of who turns on him (according to the sigilite big e didn't realize the rebellion would get as big as it did though)

And as for the crusade his sight showed him the longer it went on the less likely his golden future became hence the need to be even crueler and conquer even faster culminating in him GTFOING back to Tara and his webway project never realizing chaos had allowed him and his future sight to sew his own demise even as they kept the future they were truly aiming for hidden from him

Basically while Big e masterfully played the chaos gods in order to steal their fire from them becoming (the order from chaos) or (the anathema) they in turn masterfully played him into giving them the tools to ruin him and humanity
(God this is way wordier then I meant it to be sorry)
I don't the cybernetic revolt happens because of chaos, I think the Men of Iron turned of humanity either because they think they are superior than humanity, or because they somehow know about chaos influencing humanity and decided to wipe out humanity in to starve the chaos gods
That's a fair take though me personally I subscribe to a different theory I personally think at least some of the men of iron were at least in the beginning trying to save humanity from itself or rather from leaders gone mad with power and transhumanist dreams as in some of the tidbits of lore I scrounged together suggest that near the end of the age of technology and during the age of strife those in power started taken there genetic engineering from merely enhancing their citizens to changing them into things that could no longer be called human

But that's just my personal take
 
Warhammer Fantasy, Pt. 1
Content warning just in case, Chaos and Nurgle shit in particular can get really gross so if your squeamish be careful of such.




All of Europe was ablaze, as the eyes of the Hound and the Crow opened slightly from their sleep. Half awake, seeing only flickers and remembering practically nothing, for any other beings it would be a foolish endeavor.

Unfortunately, these were gods...and rarely do their actions affect little.

it started off with those first touched, the disgusting slothful wretches, the raging madmen. Yet before where few would ever listen to either, now all were forced by the new power they wielded. No injuries could keep them down, no foe could slay them. Swiftly hamlets and villages were lured or forced into sickly corruption, before armies of peasants suddenly stronger then they ever should have been overwhelmed kingdoms.

Plague and war cut through all, as the people fell faster then holes could be dug. They would call this terrible event, that which had seemed to so quickly destroy all semblance of order-

-The Black Death



In the Middle East and Asia, the whispers of a different god were put into the ears of those in power. Population centers were quarantined, infected bodies and all of their old possessions were burnt, all while armies were called to arms.

The refugees were many, the first waves moved to isolated tent cities. Those after however, were already changed. Massive boils of puss that would burst before rapidly regrowing, maggots clinging onto and into skin, while the flesh grew rancid with sores or hideous rashes.

These people were to far gone, put to the sword and given the caretakers mercy. Yet still the horrors did not end, as after this those even more cursed came about. Those who had their minds fully claimed by the plague, shambling undead that moved in massive herds which only cared to feast on the flesh of the untainted. Leading these hordes were those that had given into chaos, warriors of rot and plague.

Their bellies had burst from the build up of noxious gasses, leaving their organs to spill out for all to see. Some grew brittle looking horns, while others seemed to have swarms of vile insects about their bodies. What matterd most however, was that they wouldn't stop unless the most lethal of wounds were given to them.

The undead could be dealt with via jars of oil lit aflame upon their shambling forms, yet the warriors of Nurgle needed what felt like four men to bring down one of their number.

The first lines were slowly grinded down by endless numbers, the insects that reaped flesh, or by succumbing to illness. Yet, soon enough a line was formed, as the naval forces of the uncorrupted outnumbered the fallen which meant the fell armies could launch no invasions across the waters. Instead, they were forced to go by land, which led to them being stuck sieging the great city of Constantinople.




For now, you watch as both sides are at an eery equilibrium. The chaos armies are poorly equipped compared to yours due to the fact your worship has spurred much in the way of advancements, yet the foul powers of the Arch-enemy mean their armies have vast numbers and have forces of cultists with inhuman strength.

Your brother is still somewhere unknown to you, while you find yourself stuck gazing at the south and east. Your sight has been crippled by the oozing energies of the enemy, to look upon the lands held by chaos is to wish to vomit immediately.

What worries you most however, is your children. Isis and Apollo have taken to holding back the plagues made by the Unclean one, a very helpful endeavor that fills you with pride. Odin however, was off in the far north of Scandinavia, the only place in Europe where your worship managed to take root. He has been cut off from you, leaving you immensely fearful for what has occurred to him.

All you know is that while you are dealing with the forces of Nurgle in the south, the north was made the playground of Khorne. Fatherly instinct guides you to act immediately to reach him, but practicality forces you to be rational.

Currently you were outnumbered, however you had forces in the east still gathering that would turn that around once they arrived. Until then, you needed to think quickly on a proper course of action. Nurgle and his followers were marred with slothful tendencies regarding anything that wasn't spreading disease, but that did not mean you could afford to be careless.

Eventually, you moved to-

[ ] Hold the line - You needed to ensure you had reinforcements before making any moves, while the forces of chaos may perhaps grow weak without new pillage.

[ ] Naval push - You have been as successful as you have so far through your ships, use them further to launch an invasion point where chaos won't expect.

[ ] Break the siege - Will will have to ensure the safety of Constantinople, by cutting down the forces outside its walls you will have the perfect point to supply and launch further pushes north.



AN: Sorry Europeans, some disasters play out no matter what you do. Whether through fleas on rats, or through the machinations of terrible beings beyond comprehension.

Anyway! This is a basic introduction to the Big Bad Battle that will take up the next bit of the quest. For this fight, I'll actually be doing some rolls in the background for things that will come up later.

Time to see if I can actually write decent combat, until then, cheers!
 
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To ad to this um if I may well I already mentioned the idea of trying to make our own equivalent to Fates heroic spirits and the throne of heroes

There's also the fact that since we were made from the fused souls of the shamans like our brother
And those shamans knew how to reincarnate

Perhaps we could get some volunteers from the souls of our greatest warriors generals tacticians etc etc

And give them as many of our blessings as their souls can comfortably bare then reincarnate them with their memories intact into the mortal world to lead our forces against the lands under Chaos's influence as a kind of equivalent to fantasy Chaos's own exalted champions

Maybe even reincarnate a few of our Smiths and artisans since there was mention a while back of them crafting weapons in the warp that could hurt demons
Sending them back to the world of the living to make blessed/enchanted weapons and armor couldn't hurt maybe they could even teach that knowledge
So, this as a + should be good. Alongside maybe straight up deploying some willing souls from our afterlife directly into combat, not incarnating them but fitting them with weapons and armor from our afterlife and sending their souls out to do battle with the foe's rot on a spiritual level.
 
[X] Break the siege - Will will have to ensure the safety of Constantinople, by cutting down the forces outside its walls you will have the perfect point to supply and launch further pushes north.
 
[X] Break the siege - Will will have to ensure the safety of Constantinople, by cutting down the forces outside its walls you will have the perfect point to supply and launch further pushes north.

This is the time where we intervene now and join the fight
 
Not surprised. Naval attack makes the most sense because we will fight against Khorne and Nurgle, so holding a line is a battle of attrition which is on side of Nurgle. Breaking Siege is on Khorne side of stuff.
 
[] Naval push - You have been as successful as you have so far through your ships, use them further to launch an invasion point where chaos won't expect.
-[] + Muster of the Dead: Those in our afterlife have already shown some will to fight the great enemy, and beyond those who would fight for purely ideological reasons there are also those who have living relatives they may seek to protect. Ask for volunteers from the afterlife to send forth as spiritual warriors into the fray. Rather than direct deployment, we will use them to Bless our most devout and fearless soldiers, attaching the soul of a willing afterlife member to act as their guardian angel. This combination will hopefully prevent the issues one might foresee by directly deploying forces from our afterlife, namely, the vulnerability their souls may have when directly incarnated onto the world, but by fusing them to a living person both sides are able to offer protection from threats the other is more vulnerable to. The flesh of the living protects the spirit of the dead, and the spirit of the dead is in turn able to protect the living by dealing damage to the enemy through more supernatural means than would normally be possible.
 
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[X] Naval push - You have been as successful as you have so far through your ships, use them further to launch an invasion point where chaos won't expect.
-[X] + Muster of the Dead: Those in our afterlife have already shown some will to fight the great enemy, and beyond those who would fight for purely ideological reasons there are also those who have living relatives they may seek to protect. Ask for volunteers from the afterlife to send forth as spiritual warriors into the fray. Rather than direct deployment, we will use them to Bless our most devout and fearless soldiers, attaching the soul of a willing afterlife member to act as their guardian angel. This combination will hopefully prevent the issues one might foresee by directly deploying forces from our afterlife, namely, the vulnerability their souls may have when directly incarnated onto the world, but by fusing them to a living person both sides are able to offer protection from threats the other is more vulnerable to. The flesh of the living protects the spirit of the dead, and the spirit of the dead is in turn able to protect the living by dealing damage to the enemy through more supernatural means than would normally be possible.

This I want this
 
[X] Naval push - You have been as successful as you have so far through your ships, use them further to launch an invasion point where chaos won't expect.
-[X] + Muster of the Dead: Those in our afterlife have already shown some will to fight the great enemy, and beyond those who would fight for purely ideological reasons there are also those who have living relatives they may seek to protect. Ask for volunteers from the afterlife to send forth as spiritual warriors into the fray. Rather than direct deployment, we will use them to Bless our most devout and fearless soldiers, attaching the soul of a willing afterlife member to act as their guardian angel. This combination will hopefully prevent the issues one might foresee by directly deploying forces from our afterlife, namely, the vulnerability their souls may have when directly incarnated onto the world, but by fusing them to a living person both sides are able to offer protection from threats the other is more vulnerable to. The flesh of the living protects the spirit of the dead, and the spirit of the dead is in turn able to protect the living by dealing damage to the enemy through more supernatural means than would normally be possible.
-[X] + Blessing of Silver and Steel: As we have always blessed the blacksmiths, let us lend them our favor once more, and from them, the guardians of hope shall be bolstered as well. Holy arms and armors shall they forge, and may the forces of evil suffer the flame of gentle men's wrath.

Oh yeah, we are not limited by options as much as I thought. And cool + option.
 
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I hope my + option is valid. An alternative for attaching the souls of the afterlife to people would be to have our people craft them bodies to use, but for now we probably don't have the time. As for why, well we know weapons forged in our afterlife have some unique anti-daemon properties, so hopefully such weapons will be capable of burning away the corruption of our foe, flesh and spirit at once.
 
Wait guys we can make Sacred gears if we want to
Highschool DxD much?
Explain? Maybe a second + option if you can write it up. Have the people of our afterlife who aren't willing to enter direct combat but want to help work on them?
It is less of a second option but more like they are special items that give power to humans to fight against the supernatural. Of course there are many levels of strenght for Sacred Gears. And I imagine if we want them, we would need to create Sacred Gear system and that would take a lot of power and possibly help.
 
[X] Naval push - You have been as successful as you have so far through your ships, use them further to launch an invasion point where chaos won't expect.
-[X] + Muster of the Dead: Those in our afterlife have already shown some will to fight the great enemy, and beyond those who would fight for purely ideological reasons there are also those who have living relatives they may seek to protect. Ask for volunteers from the afterlife to send forth as spiritual warriors into the fray. Rather than direct deployment, we will use them to Bless our most devout and fearless soldiers, attaching the soul of a willing afterlife member to act as their guardian angel. This combination will hopefully prevent the issues one might foresee by directly deploying forces from our afterlife, namely, the vulnerability their souls may have when directly incarnated onto the world, but by fusing them to a living person both sides are able to offer protection from threats the other is more vulnerable to. The flesh of the living protects the spirit of the dead, and the spirit of the dead is in turn able to protect the living by dealing damage to the enemy through more supernatural means than would normally be possible.

Time to make some saints.
 
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